What's so funny about peace, love and stoney <stoney@the.net> posting
the following on Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:57:18 -0800 iin alt.atheism?

JAKARTA, Indonesia-- Hundreds of Muslims protesting caricatures of the
Prophet Muhammad tried to storm the U.S. Embassy on Sunday, smashing the
windows of a guard post but failing to push through the gates. Several
people were injured.

Were I the Ambassador in Jakarta, my Marines would be in combat gear
with orders to fucking shoot down any non-US person who enters the
embassy grounds in a hostile manner.

Were I the Ambassador in Jakarta, my Marines would be in combat gear
with orders to fucking shoot down any non-US person who enters the
embassy grounds in a hostile manner.

stoney wrote:
<snip>

Nice subject for a thread, Stoney. Just what I needed.

Been away for a week, almost 9000 posts in aa, 4000 after the filter
cleaned up, but still...

On to the subject of More Muslim Stupidity:

I was walking from home to downtown Toronto today, past Parliament
building. The Muslims are out, in a Canadian fashion. Peaceful.

So I watch the show for some time.

They have a Roman Catholic speaker up. Great praise for the nice way of
not offending anybody. He's fully in the deal. No offense to me, and no
offense to you, and everything is peaceful. Great praise to the
responsible Canadian media outlets for not showing their citizens why
the Muslims in the middle east rage. The cynic in me hears him saying "I
don't criticize your suicide bombers, and you don't talk about my child
molesters. Then everything is fine." The crowd cheered.

In the past weeks I have been told that the Muslims don't draw Mohamed
in order to avoid idolizing him, a horrible sin. Considering how they
behave it's hard to say he's not an idol.

People running around with "I
(heart) Mohamed (PBUH)" stickers glued to their jackets. Chants of
"Mohamed, Mohamed". Quote form a handout: "IS THERE ANY MAN GREATER THAN
HE?" Signs of "You shall not insult our Prophet". Perhaps the fear that
they would immediately fall to their knees and worship a picture is
justified? Who knows. To me it looks like the typical insecurity of the
faithful. Any criticism, any encouragement to think, must be
extinguished, as fast as possible. Because if it takes hold, they have
nothing left.

Then someone hands me a another handout. I think it's insightful about
what the goal of the leaders is. So here it is: [[Comments in brackets
are mine]]

IN THE NAME OF GOD, MOST GRACIOUS, MOST MERCIFUL.

[[Clear message to the believer: "What follows is the command of God.
You shall not deviate from it. You shall not question it. Do what you
are told." If we consider that Muhammad was the last Prophet in Islamic
believe, why does the writer dare to claim to speak for GOD? Why is
there no outrage?]]

WHY A PERMANENT BOYCOTT?
This is not meant as revenge or punishment. The goal is to make such a
strong financial impact on the nation that it becomes to costly for any
other country to mime.

[[Now ain't we glad that it's not revenge? Or even punishment? Only the
clear message "Do what we tell you!" And not directed against Denmark,
but against any other country: "Shut your people up or we do it with you"]]

WHY DENMARK?
It is there that the problem originated. They did nothing to stop it.
They have done their best to belittle the situation and fuel the fire.

[[If I call Muslims 'THEY' with the intent to generalize the behavior of
one (or a few) to the whole group, I'm called a racist. And I would
agree to this terminology. If it is done to the Danish by Muslims, it is
what?]]

THEY SAID THEY ARE SORRY...
Sorry that they have and will continue to loose our business.

[[Get them coming and going. 'They' can not truly be sorry, right? None
of them. If we would grant that, we would accept that they are humans,
who make errors and might truly regret something, not just targets of
opportunity.]]

THEIR PLAN FOR MUSLIMS

[[Note that what follows is written (as everything else) "in the name of
God", the follower has to accept it as true, no matter what. It is God
telling the faithful reader what the Danish, all Danish, plan!]]

Many people in influential positions around the world believe that the
newspaper made a positive move. They think it will promote dialog, which
in turn will moderate our views.

[[Dialog is a bad thing, isn't it? And moderation, like refraining from
violence when faced with criticism, is a horrible thing. This is part of
the evil Danish plan! Muslims would never have any of this 'Dialog' stuff!]]

They think that each time something is produced; the reaction will be
less severe until we become completely desensitized and accept the
vicious attacks on our Beloved Prophet (A.S.) and Islam.

[[No idol worship here, eh??]]

They will not rest until they have done the same gross injustice to
Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) as they have done to Prophet Jesus (A.S.).

[[Or here! And of course it would be horrible, unbearable thing to have
a future in which an atheist, or a Christian, may say to a Muslim "Your
religion was founded by a violent, women oppressing war monger!"]]

IN ANY COUNTRY THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD PEOPLE. AS MUSLIMS WE ARE TAUGHT
NOT TO HOLD SOMEONE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS SINS.

[[That's why we burn an embassy when a few citizens of a country do
something we don't like. Or perhaps we can do more to all this
citizens...just read on]]

Jylladen-Posten

[[Yes, the righteous can't even write the name of the paper correct.
It's Jyllands-Posten. Or was the '...laden' reference deliberate? One
wonders if they ever saw the horrible pictures, or are just repeating
the story they got told.]]

newspaper knew that this would have a devastating emotional impact on
the Muslims and other God Fearing people.

[[Poor Muslims. Does their omnipotent God not shelter them?]]

They stood 10 feet tall when they selfishly and recklessly threw us a
hardball. They underestimated The power of Allah (S.W.T) who turned
their hateful blasphemous weapons into a boomerang.

[[So I can now quote a Muslim that Allah is responsible for all the
violence. But dare to draw a picture showing that!]]

It is their duty to compensate those individuals who have been affected
by their irresponsible and thoughtless behaviors.

[[Yes, who could have expected the Muslims to rage violently? They sure
deserve compensation for the emotional trauma they got during embassy
burning! And where is the responsibility of Allah for the damage he did
not prevent?]]

Allah (S.W.T) has made it the duty of every God fearing human to protect
the integrity of Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) and all his other Prophets
(A.S.). To make a mockery of the beloved messengers (A.S), it is to make
a mockery of Allah (S.W.T)'s Religion. THIS MUST END NOW! Anyone who
fails to contribute to this noble effort will be held accountable on the
Day of Judgment. Allah (S.W.T.) is the Omnipotent.

[[So here it is. Nobody has the the right to disagree with a Muslim
about his religion. By Allah's command. Say that Mohamed was a
pedophile, you're painting a target on yourself. Say he founded his
religious empire on violent conquest, and you will see how peaceful his
followers can actually be. And no Muslim has the right to question the
authors order, as it is written "In the name of God".]]

THE KIDS ARE HAVING ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR TANTRUMS

[[Let me guess, if I would call the Muslims 'kids' I'm a racist. But do
it the other way around, it's right and proper. In the name of God!]]

The world has no respect for Muslims.

[[Note that this comes after the Muslims called me a 'kid'. Wow! And,
why should I as atheist respect people believing in any story they get
served?]]

We are known to have violent emotional outbursts,

[[I wonder why??]]

but have a short attention span. We are big talkers, whose actions are
insignificant to everyone. The only thing we ever achieve is self
destruction.

TODAY, HIS UMMAH, THE HEART OF OUR BELOVED PROPHET (S.A.W) BLEEDS,

[[Poor Prophet. Sadly, his heart doesn't bleed when his followers kill
and maim.]]

FOR WE HAVE FAILED HIM MISERABLY.

[[Enforce the guilt complex. Classical way to keep control over the
followers. You just can't live up to the super being.]]

IS THIS WHAT HE TAUGHT US? TO BE SO WEAK, TIMID AND DIVIDED, TO LET OUR
HOLY PROPHET (S.A.W.) BECOME THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD

[[What do they mean with 'become'?]]

MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS, FOR THE LOVE OF ALLAH (S.W.T.) AND YOUR
PROPHET (S.A.W.) LET US PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES.

[[...<Brothers, brothers. We should be struggling together!> <We are!>
<We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should be united against the
common enemy!> <The Judean People's Front!> <No. No. The Romans!>....]]

UNITE AND ORGANIZE. DEPRIVE THEM OF WHAT THEY WORSHIP.

MONEY!

[[And ***** the 'WE ARE TAUGHT NOT TO HOLD SOMEONE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS
SINS'. So what if a Danish Muslim looses his job at LEGO, or a Danish
Roman Catholic his job at Arla, because one newspaper offended our
beloved, definitely not worshiped, Prophet (S.A.W). It's different when
we are doing it. Because we have Allah behind us!]]

MAY ALLAH (S.W.T.) GIVE US STRENGTH TO BE STEADFAST.

By: Your Concerned Sister in Islam, Elisabeth.

THIS DISTRIBUTION IS NOT MEANT TO REFLECT THE OPINIONS OF THE UNITED
FRONT CANADA.

[[Jolly good, you distribute it at your demo, but it's not you? ]]