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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "stoney"
Date: 05 Apr 2004 11:40:25 PM
Object: OT: Nice Photo Essay on US Military
http://www.orwf.org/ORWF/Military%20Man.asp


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: OT: Nice Photo Essay on US Military 06 Apr 2004 12:21:31 AM

http://www.orwf.org/ORWF/Military%20Man.asp

Nice except for the last sentence:
"Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Sailor, Coastguardsman, Marine
or Airman, and their families, prayer is the very best one."
No, our brave servicemen do not need our prayers. Our prayers will not keep
them and their comrades alive and safe from harm. Our prayers will not help
them complete their mission. Praying for them cheapens their sacrifice. The
only person who will feel good about praying for them is the person praying. It
is selfish and arrogant.
Don't pray for them...WORK for them. Work for Veterans service organizations.
Volunteer at VA hospitals or hospitals at military bases. Give to the USO.
Don't just clasp your hands together and pray. That's cheap and easy. It's what
pseudo-patriots do. Go out and DO something. That's hard and it is a sacrifice
that they will actually appreciate. Praying is worthless.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: OT: Nice Photo Essay on US Military 06 Apr 2004 10:55:19 AM
Lo, many moons past, on 06 Apr 2004 05:21:31 GMT, a stranger called by
some forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism

http://www.orwf.org/ORWF/Military%20Man.asp


Nice except for the last sentence:

"Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Sailor, Coastguardsman, Marine
or Airman, and their families, prayer is the very best one."

No, our brave servicemen do not need our prayers. Our prayers will not keep
them and their comrades alive and safe from harm. Our prayers will not help
them complete their mission. Praying for them cheapens their sacrifice. The
only person who will feel good about praying for them is the person praying. It
is selfish and arrogant.

Don't pray for them...WORK for them. Work for Veterans service organizations.
Volunteer at VA hospitals or hospitals at military bases. Give to the USO.
Don't just clasp your hands together and pray. That's cheap and easy. It's what
pseudo-patriots do. Go out and DO something. That's hard and it is a sacrifice
that they will actually appreciate. Praying is worthless.

Good point.
If you actually want to send a servicemember in Iraq or Afghanistan a
gift they can use, send baby wipes. I am not kidding you. Those
things are priceless.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Nice Photo Essay on US Military 08 Apr 2004 09:54:57 AM
On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:55:19 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>, Message ID:
<pkk570tsglb3huu7gf7c1svu94ojcs8g1n@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;

Lo, many moons past, on 06 Apr 2004 05:21:31 GMT, a stranger called by
some forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism

http://www.orwf.org/ORWF/Military%20Man.asp


Nice except for the last sentence:

Sure.

"Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Sailor, Coastguardsman, Marine
or Airman, and their families, prayer is the very best one."

No, our brave servicemen do not need our prayers. Our prayers will not keep
them and their comrades alive and safe from harm. Our prayers will not help
them complete their mission. Praying for them cheapens their sacrifice. The
only person who will feel good about praying for them is the person praying. It
is selfish and arrogant.

Don't pray for them...WORK for them. Work for Veterans service organizations.
Volunteer at VA hospitals or hospitals at military bases. Give to the USO.
Don't just clasp your hands together and pray. That's cheap and easy. It's what
pseudo-patriots do. Go out and DO something. That's hard and it is a sacrifice
that they will actually appreciate. Praying is worthless.

Good point.

If you actually want to send a servicemember in Iraq or Afghanistan a
gift they can use, send baby wipes. I am not kidding you. Those
things are priceless.

Agreed.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.




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