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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Robibnikoff"
Date: 14 Jun 2005 02:15:35 PM
Object: OT: Not taking the kid on this ride :(
4-Year-Old Dies After Epcot Attraction
58 minutes ago
A 4-year-old boy died after passing out while aboard Walt Disney World's
"Mission: Space" attraction - a ride that has caused previous concerns
because of its intensity.
Daudi Bamuwamye passed out Monday afternoon while on the attraction, which
simulates a rocket launch and trip to Mars. The Orange County Sheriff's
Office said his mother carried him off the ride and employees helped her
place him on a bench.
Paramedics tried to revive him, but he died about 5 p.m. at Celebration
Hospital.
The sheriff's office said the boy did meet the minimum 44-inch height
requirement for the ride at the Epcot theme park, which simulates twice the
normal force of gravity.
A cause of death could not be immediately determined and an autopsy was
expected Tuesday.
Officials said the boy was from Pennsylvania, but his hometown was not
immediately available. He was on the ride with his mother and sister.
The $100 million ride, one of Disney World's most popular, was closed after
the death.
In 2003, Disney began placing motion sickness bags in the ride. During an
eight-month period in 2003-04, six people over age 55 were taken to the
hospital for chest pain and nausea after riding it, though none of them was
found to have any serious injuries.
It was the most hospital visits for a single ride since Florida's major
theme parks agreed in 2001 to report such problems to the state. Updated
figures were not immediately available.
Signs warn visitors about the intensity of the ride.
"For safety you should be in good health, and free from high blood pressure,
heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness or other conditions that can
be aggravated by this adventure," one sign on view last year said.
Disney officials in a statement after the boy's death that they are
"providing support to the family and are doing everything we can to help
them during this difficult time."
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Title: Re: OT: Not taking the kid on this ride :( 14 Jun 2005 03:17:35 PM
The ride is a very tight spinning centrifuge that simulates g-forces
and with the exception of the combined video and entertainment effects,
it's quite similar to centrifuges used in Astronaut training. While
many feel nausea or get chest pain from the fast spinning motion of the
centrifuge, this tragic death will certainly necessitate major changes
to the ride to eliminate the centrifuge effect, or at least reduce the
spinning to a couple of revolutions at most during the simulated rocket
launch.
I went on the ride once, became nauseous during the constant spinning,
and walked off with a splitting headache. Being a thrill ride junkie,
I've been on some of the most wild Roller Coasters around the
country, but this Disney Mission Space ride did me in and assuming it
opens again, you won't find me anywhere near it.
Robibnikoff wrote:

4-Year-Old Dies After Epcot Attraction
58 minutes ago

A 4-year-old boy died after passing out while aboard Walt Disney World's
"Mission: Space" attraction - a ride that has caused previous concerns
because of its intensity.

Daudi Bamuwamye passed out Monday afternoon while on the attraction, which
simulates a rocket launch and trip to Mars. The Orange County Sheriff's
Office said his mother carried him off the ride and employees helped her
place him on a bench.

Paramedics tried to revive him, but he died about 5 p.m. at Celebration
Hospital.

The sheriff's office said the boy did meet the minimum 44-inch height
requirement for the ride at the Epcot theme park, which simulates twice the
normal force of gravity.

A cause of death could not be immediately determined and an autopsy was
expected Tuesday.

Officials said the boy was from Pennsylvania, but his hometown was not
immediately available. He was on the ride with his mother and sister.

The $100 million ride, one of Disney World's most popular, was closed after
the death.

In 2003, Disney began placing motion sickness bags in the ride. During an
eight-month period in 2003-04, six people over age 55 were taken to the
hospital for chest pain and nausea after riding it, though none of them was
found to have any serious injuries.

It was the most hospital visits for a single ride since Florida's major
theme parks agreed in 2001 to report such problems to the state. Updated
figures were not immediately available.

Signs warn visitors about the intensity of the ride.

"For safety you should be in good health, and free from high blood pressure,
heart, back or neck problems, motion sickness or other conditions that can
be aggravated by this adventure," one sign on view last year said.

Disney officials in a statement after the boy's death that they are
"providing support to the family and are doing everything we can to help
them during this difficult time."
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist

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User: "Mike Ruskai"

Title: Re: OT: Not taking the kid on this ride :( 15 Jun 2005 09:03:10 PM
On 14 Jun 2005 08:17:35 -0700,
wrote:

The ride is a very tight spinning centrifuge that simulates g-forces
and with the exception of the combined video and entertainment effects,
it's quite similar to centrifuges used in Astronaut training. While
many feel nausea or get chest pain from the fast spinning motion of the
centrifuge, this tragic death will certainly necessitate major changes
to the ride to eliminate the centrifuge effect, or at least reduce the
spinning to a couple of revolutions at most during the simulated rocket
launch.

Sounds similar (without the special effects) to the Rotor at Great
Adventure (what the NJ Six Flags is called). I don't know how many g's
the Rotor simulates, but there's a drop-down floor which is lowered after
it gets up to speed, and everyone sticks to the wall (which is rubber
coated, but you don't feel as if you're being held up - I always took my
glasses off and placed them on the wall, where they stayed for the
duration of the full-speed rotation).
I expect this unfortunate kid will be found to have a health problem. I
can't imagine any other way that a measly 2g's can kill someone.
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT: Not taking the kid on this ride :( 15 Jun 2005 09:34:25 PM
"Mike Ruskai" <spamten.knilhtrae@begonedynnaht.net> wrote in message
news:gunaalqrneguyvaxarg.ii59594.pminews@news.west.earthlink.net...

On 14 Jun 2005 08:17:35 -0700,

wrote:

The ride is a very tight spinning centrifuge that simulates g-forces
and with the exception of the combined video and entertainment effects,
it's quite similar to centrifuges used in Astronaut training. While
many feel nausea or get chest pain from the fast spinning motion of the
centrifuge, this tragic death will certainly necessitate major changes
to the ride to eliminate the centrifuge effect, or at least reduce the
spinning to a couple of revolutions at most during the simulated rocket
launch.


Sounds similar (without the special effects) to the Rotor at Great
Adventure (what the NJ Six Flags is called). I don't know how many g's
the Rotor simulates, but there's a drop-down floor which is lowered after
it gets up to speed, and everyone sticks to the wall (which is rubber
coated, but you don't feel as if you're being held up - I always took my
glasses off and placed them on the wall, where they stayed for the
duration of the full-speed rotation).

While I haven't been on the one at Great Adventure (I'm going there a week
from Saturday), I did go on something like that down in Wildwood, NJ. I
thought it was pretty cool. However, I'm definitely not going to allow my
kid on it.

I expect this unfortunate kid will be found to have a health problem. I
can't imagine any other way that a measly 2g's can kill someone.

It is awful :(
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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User: "Nancy Norton"

Title: Re: OT: Not taking the kid on this ride :( 19 Jun 2005 05:17:34 AM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mike Ruskai" <spamten.knilhtrae@begonedynnaht.net> wrote in message
news:gunaalqrneguyvaxarg.ii59594.pminews@news.west.earthlink.net...

On 14 Jun 2005 08:17:35 -0700,

wrote:


The ride is a very tight spinning centrifuge that simulates g-forces
and with the exception of the combined video and entertainment effects,
it's quite similar to centrifuges used in Astronaut training. While
many feel nausea or get chest pain from the fast spinning motion of the
centrifuge, this tragic death will certainly necessitate major changes
to the ride to eliminate the centrifuge effect, or at least reduce the
spinning to a couple of revolutions at most during the simulated rocket
launch.


Sounds similar (without the special effects) to the Rotor at Great
Adventure (what the NJ Six Flags is called). I don't know how many g's
the Rotor simulates, but there's a drop-down floor which is lowered after
it gets up to speed, and everyone sticks to the wall (which is rubber
coated, but you don't feel as if you're being held up - I always took my
glasses off and placed them on the wall, where they stayed for the
duration of the full-speed rotation).



While I haven't been on the one at Great Adventure (I'm going there a week
from Saturday), I did go on something like that down in Wildwood, NJ. I
thought it was pretty cool. However, I'm definitely not going to allow my
kid on it.


I expect this unfortunate kid will be found to have a health problem. I
can't imagine any other way that a measly 2g's can kill someone.



It is awful :(

It's quite tragic, but I agree with Mike that the boy probably had some
kind of health problem. Two g's is just not that much, and while he
might have been frightened, 4 year olds don't generally drop dead from
fright. Still, if I had a young child, I'd probably be cautious about
letting him ride it. I don't know if we'll ever go on the ride or not.
I'm not bothered by spinning rides, but they make my husband quite ill,
so it would probably depend on the duration of the spin. He can take a
little, but not a lot (the ones that drop the floor are out of the
question). Our son and I have iron stomachs and wouldn't likely have a
problem, but we don't go on spinning rides merely because we don't find
them to be that much fun. The Disney ride might be an exception because
from what I've heard, it's more than just spinning.
It's another black eye for Disney, no matter what the cause of death.
I hope you have fun at Great Adventure. Don't forget to ride Nitro. ;-)
I've fallen behind here because I was out of town for work all last
week, and I'm leaving again on Wednesday (vacation this time) and won't
be back until July 2, but I really do want to hear if you ride it.
Nancy
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