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17 Sep 2004 10:07:26 PM |
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OT: Oh Damn! |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
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| User: "johac" |
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18 Sep 2004 02:51:35 AM |
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In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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19 Sep 2004 01:04:17 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
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| User: "johac" |
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19 Sep 2004 11:46:51 PM |
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In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "" |
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20 Sep 2004 06:35:21 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
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| User: "johac" |
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22 Sep 2004 12:06:46 AM |
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In article <n8quk09qsakcirlmkjlmejo7bqogn1it6s@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 05:00:11 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <n8quk09qsakcirlmkjlmejo7bqogn1it6s@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
?
The first airstrip (now a USN camp ground and marina) had the P-40
Mustangs. The second airstrip ("flop side") had jet aircraft. The
second base and third airstrip is several miles away.
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| User: "johac" |
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24 Sep 2004 12:13:38 AM |
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In article <hbt3l01nuo1at9a6v5qfornv5scrvaf605@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <n8quk09qsakcirlmkjlmejo7bqogn1it6s@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen
for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
?
The first airstrip (now a USN camp ground and marina) had the P-40
Mustangs. The second airstrip ("flop side") had jet aircraft. The
second base and third airstrip is several miles away.
I've never been there. Have they had damage before? It seems that the
airbase could have been put inland a little to protect it from the
water.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "" |
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24 Sep 2004 06:47:02 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:13:38 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <hbt3l01nuo1at9a6v5qfornv5scrvaf605@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <n8quk09qsakcirlmkjlmejo7bqogn1it6s@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen
for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
?
The first airstrip (now a USN camp ground and marina) had the P-40
Mustangs. The second airstrip ("flop side") had jet aircraft. The
second base and third airstrip is several miles away.
I've never been there. Have they had damage before?
Probable. The first airstrip was WWII. The second on the 'flop
side'-controlled by the same nearby buildings was jets until, iirc,
about 1993.
There was an extensive area which was left wild for amphibious
landings practice. That was discontinued, iirc, about 1993 as well.
It seems that the
airbase could have been put inland a little to protect it from the
water.
I don't know how extensive the new base is. My only interest in going
aboard the station was the air museum.
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Sep 2004 01:28:25 AM |
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In article <g8c9l01a3qkf5ojjesavvi5bfvnabq64fc@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:13:38 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <hbt3l01nuo1at9a6v5qfornv5scrvaf605@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <n8quk09qsakcirlmkjlmejo7bqogn1it6s@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on
the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not
reopen
for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
?
The first airstrip (now a USN camp ground and marina) had the P-40
Mustangs. The second airstrip ("flop side") had jet aircraft. The
second base and third airstrip is several miles away.
I've never been there. Have they had damage before?
Probable. The first airstrip was WWII. The second on the 'flop
side'-controlled by the same nearby buildings was jets until, iirc,
about 1993.
There was an extensive area which was left wild for amphibious
landings practice. That was discontinued, iirc, about 1993 as well.
It seems that the
airbase could have been put inland a little to protect it from the
water.
I don't know how extensive the new base is. My only interest in going
aboard the station was the air museum.
I hope that they get things fixed up. If I'm ever down that way, I'd
like to see it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "" |
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25 Sep 2004 04:02:03 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:28:25 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <g8c9l01a3qkf5ojjesavvi5bfvnabq64fc@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:13:38 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <hbt3l01nuo1at9a6v5qfornv5scrvaf605@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <n8quk09qsakcirlmkjlmejo7bqogn1it6s@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:46:51 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <d98qk0tcos791oo0rdi7vhjq54oei9fj54@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:51:35 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <7i9nk0lccmlf3ve8uvak5jqse6phu8lt4j@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on
the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not
reopen
for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
That was very close to where Ivan came on shore. I think that we're
only starting to find out the extent of the overall damage now.
There's an extensive collection of artifacts in the base museum. I
hope they weren't damaged, but with all the glass to seaward.... :\
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
?
The first airstrip (now a USN camp ground and marina) had the P-40
Mustangs. The second airstrip ("flop side") had jet aircraft. The
second base and third airstrip is several miles away.
I've never been there. Have they had damage before?
Probable. The first airstrip was WWII. The second on the 'flop
side'-controlled by the same nearby buildings was jets until, iirc,
about 1993.
There was an extensive area which was left wild for amphibious
landings practice. That was discontinued, iirc, about 1993 as well.
It seems that the
airbase could have been put inland a little to protect it from the
water.
I don't know how extensive the new base is. My only interest in going
aboard the station was the air museum.
I hope that they get things fixed up. If I'm ever down that way, I'd
like to see it.
Well worth seeing.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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22 Sep 2004 10:08:11 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
Certainly not Spitfires.
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| Title: Re: OT: Oh Damn! |
24 Sep 2004 12:08:16 AM |
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In article <ha53l053s5m300q6hdl0u7ms9iuhjstqn3@4ax.com>,
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:46 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
I was talking with another ex Navy guy yesterday. A woman in our
company got married and I was invited to the wedding. The former
captain is her father and was stationed at Pensacola back in the
seventies. He too was worried about the destruction.
The current base is the second one and the third airstrip.
Hurricanes?
Certainly not Spitfires.
Wild Mustangs? Or were they hit by Lightnings?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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18 Sep 2004 11:42:55 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:07:26 -0700, wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
Is that a regular naval base, and were you stationed there at some
point?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1029 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "" |
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19 Sep 2004 08:26:36 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:42:55 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:07:26 -0700, wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6028506/
Fla. Navy base sustains ‘catastrophic’ damage
Ivan damages every building at historic Pensacola air station
MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 11:37 a.m. ET Sept. 17, 2004
WASHINGTON - Hurricane Ivan inflicted “catastrophic” damage on the
Pensacola Naval Air Station in Florida and the base may not reopen for
two weeks, Navy officials told NBC News on Friday.
/end snippet
Is that a regular naval base, and were you stationed there at some
point?
It's a naval air station on the ocean's edge. I was never stationed
there, but visited the huge museum the base has. Gorgeous.
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