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User: "Raptor514"
Date: 03 Nov 2004 09:46:22 PM
Object: OT: Professional Website
Greetings all,
As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas. I
have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics and
would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .
Here's the url: http://www.dallastherapeutics.com and I really appreciate
any critiques or suggestions. I would also like to know if it doesn't
display right on your machine.
Thanks in advance!
Raptor514-------------a.a.#1855
Alt.atheism veteran-----------#16
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horror. 'But what shall we substitute in its place?' you say.
What? A ferocious animal has sucked the blood of my relatives. I tell you to
rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" --- Voltaire
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User: "Ichimusai"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 06 Nov 2004 02:24:32 AM
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:

Greetings all,

As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas. I
have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics and
would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .

Here's the url: http://www.dallastherapeutics.com and I really appreciate
any critiques or suggestions. I would also like to know if it doesn't
display right on your machine.

Thanks in advance!

Technically there is a miss: You are missing doctype declarations on
your pages which means that web browsers would not know, but have to
guess, which markup language you are actually using.
This could lead to unexpected behaviour in many of them.
Apart from that I don't really have much to comment on, the page works
well even in screen readers and non-graphical readers that I tested -
so I think it is great. Just give it a doctype and run it through
validator.w3.org.
Good luck!
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User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 08 Nov 2004 04:58:27 AM


Technically there is a miss: You are missing doctype declarations on
your pages which means that web browsers would not know, but have to
guess, which markup language you are actually using.

This could lead to unexpected behaviour in many of them.

Apart from that I don't really have much to comment on, the page works
well even in screen readers and non-graphical readers that I tested -
so I think it is great. Just give it a doctype and run it through
validator.w3.org.

I'm not an IT guy. I'm a medical massage therapist with a degree in
philosophy so you're gonna have to tell me what a doctype declaration is.
Please?
Thanks!
Raptor514
.
User: "Ichimusai"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 08 Nov 2004 12:07:55 PM
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:


Technically there is a miss: You are missing doctype declarations on
your pages which means that web browsers would not know, but have to
guess, which markup language you are actually using.

This could lead to unexpected behaviour in many of them.

Apart from that I don't really have much to comment on, the page works
well even in screen readers and non-graphical readers that I tested -
so I think it is great. Just give it a doctype and run it through
validator.w3.org.


I'm not an IT guy. I'm a medical massage therapist with a degree in
philosophy so you're gonna have to tell me what a doctype declaration is.
Please?

Sure, no problem!
Since there are plenty of varieties of HTML language out there,
several different versions are in use, some are more appreciated than
others and so on it has become increasingly difficult to make a web
browser that works well with all of them since a lot of web carpenters
mixes them freely.
To avoid confusion any complete HTML document should have a
declaration stating the language version used in the document to aid
browsers to display it properly or translate it into something else
and so on. This declaration is actually mandatory for a HTML page to
be well formed in strict terms.
Doctype declarations looks something like this:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
This is taken from my own webpage, I have chosen to use this
particular version of HTML called HTML 4.01 Transitional for that
page.
Most programs that aids you, like WYSIWYG editors and so on, is able
to produce a fitting doctype declaration. The declaration should be on
the first line of every document.
It is not strictly necessary to make the page work - as you no doubt
already have seen, but it may aid the browser to do the Right Thing
with your markup and it is definitely an aid for those who use braille
terminal software, screen readers or other such aids.
You can learn more of doctype declarations and many other things on
w3.org's pages over here:
http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html
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the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger."
-- Hermann Goering
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User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 08 Nov 2004 06:03:23 PM
"Ichimusai" <ichi@ichimusai.org> wrote in message
news:m3wtww43k4.fsf@ichimusai.dyndns.org...

"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:


Technically there is a miss: You are missing doctype declarations on
your pages which means that web browsers would not know, but have to
guess, which markup language you are actually using.

This could lead to unexpected behaviour in many of them.

Apart from that I don't really have much to comment on, the page works
well even in screen readers and non-graphical readers that I tested -
so I think it is great. Just give it a doctype and run it through
validator.w3.org.


I'm not an IT guy. I'm a medical massage therapist with a degree in
philosophy so you're gonna have to tell me what a doctype declaration

is.

Please?


Sure, no problem!

Since there are plenty of varieties of HTML language out there,
several different versions are in use, some are more appreciated than
others and so on it has become increasingly difficult to make a web
browser that works well with all of them since a lot of web carpenters
mixes them freely.

To avoid confusion any complete HTML document should have a
declaration stating the language version used in the document to aid
browsers to display it properly or translate it into something else
and so on. This declaration is actually mandatory for a HTML page to
be well formed in strict terms.

Doctype declarations looks something like this:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

This is taken from my own webpage, I have chosen to use this
particular version of HTML called HTML 4.01 Transitional for that
page.

Most programs that aids you, like WYSIWYG editors and so on, is able
to produce a fitting doctype declaration. The declaration should be on
the first line of every document.

It is not strictly necessary to make the page work - as you no doubt
already have seen, but it may aid the browser to do the Right Thing
with your markup and it is definitely an aid for those who use braille
terminal software, screen readers or other such aids.

You can learn more of doctype declarations and many other things on
w3.org's pages over here:

http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html

Wow, awesome explanation. You should be a teacher if you're not already.
Thanks for the info! Freaking Frontpage is killing me. . .
Raptor514


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"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger."
-- Hermann Goering

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User: "Ichimusai"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 10 Nov 2004 01:02:33 PM
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:

Wow, awesome explanation. You should be a teacher if you're not already.

*blush* why, thank you for that.

Thanks for the info! Freaking Frontpage is killing me. . .

If that page was made with frontpage you did a good job anyway! It
usually comes out like €%#&/&!"& with that program.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 03 Nov 2004 10:30:04 PM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> said in alt.atheism:

Here's the url: http://www.dallastherapeutics.com and I really appreciate
any critiques or suggestions.

Just a few grammatical suggestions. The page looks fine on MSIE.
"continues to improve we continuously adapt" -> "continues to improve,
we continue to adapt"
"for accident, illness, and injury rehabilitation. " -> "for accident,
illness and injury rehabilitation. "
"prescription and diagnosis, and verify your insurance coverage." ->
"prescription and diagnosis and we must verify your insurance
coverage."
"injuries, from CTS, to Fibromyalgia, to lower back pain, to migraine
headaches, and countless other conditions" -> "injuries from CTS to
Fibromyalgia to lower back pain to migraine headaches, and many other
conditions"
"We have each worked in multiple doctors' " -> "We have worked in many
doctors' "
"In November, Kathy Bills" -> "In November Kathy Bills"
"what we offer just click " -> "what we offer, just click "
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other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
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User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 09:16:36 AM
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:bmbjo01podob4fd2ni25rbqdh262oddmed@4ax.com...

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> said in alt.atheism:

Here's the url: http://www.dallastherapeutics.com and I really appreciate
any critiques or suggestions.


Just a few grammatical suggestions. The page looks fine on MSIE.

"continues to improve we continuously adapt" -> "continues to improve,
we continue to adapt"

"for accident, illness, and injury rehabilitation. " -> "for accident,
illness and injury rehabilitation. "

"prescription and diagnosis, and verify your insurance coverage." ->
"prescription and diagnosis and we must verify your insurance
coverage."

"injuries, from CTS, to Fibromyalgia, to lower back pain, to migraine
headaches, and countless other conditions" -> "injuries from CTS to
Fibromyalgia to lower back pain to migraine headaches, and many other
conditions"

"We have each worked in multiple doctors' " -> "We have worked in many
doctors' "

"In November, Kathy Bills" -> "In November Kathy Bills"

"what we offer just click " -> "what we offer, just click "

Thanks! That's what a fresh pair of eyes is good for. I've proofread at
least twenty times and had formed the habit of missing those or something. .
..
Raptor514
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 09:19:40 AM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:16:36 GMT in alt.atheism, Raptor514
("Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism


[snip]

Thanks! That's what a fresh pair of eyes is good for. I've proofread at
least twenty times and had formed the habit of missing those or something. .

It's easily done. A friend of mine who proofreads for a living says
you should read it backwards, just to be sure!
.
User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 05:43:58 PM
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:16:36 GMT in alt.atheism, Raptor514
("Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism




[snip]

Thanks! That's what a fresh pair of eyes is good for. I've proofread at
least twenty times and had formed the habit of missing those or

something. .


It's easily done. A friend of mine who proofreads for a living says
you should read it backwards, just to be sure!

..tath yrt ot evah ll'I ,mmH.
(-:
5581#.a.a----------415rotpaR
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User: "Ichimusai"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 06 Nov 2004 02:26:04 AM
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:

"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:16:36 GMT in alt.atheism, Raptor514
("Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism




[snip]

Thanks! That's what a fresh pair of eyes is good for. I've proofread at
least twenty times and had formed the habit of missing those or

something. .


It's easily done. A friend of mine who proofreads for a living says
you should read it backwards, just to be sure!


.tath yrt ot evah ll'I ,mmH.

Oh, there is a miss there! .thath should be .thaht :)
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User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 06 Nov 2004 01:40:28 PM
"Ichimusai" <ichi@ichimusai.org> wrote in message
news:m3fz3nidsz.fsf@ichimusai.dyndns.org...

"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:

"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:16:36 GMT in alt.atheism, Raptor514
("Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism




[snip]

Thanks! That's what a fresh pair of eyes is good for. I've proofread

at

least twenty times and had formed the habit of missing those or

something. .


It's easily done. A friend of mine who proofreads for a living says
you should read it backwards, just to be sure!


.tath yrt ot evah ll'I ,mmH.


Oh, there is a miss there! .thath should be .thaht :)

!!!!hgrrrraaaaaaaaaA


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User: "Rune Børsjø"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 11:05:19 AM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> wrote:

As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas. I
have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics and
would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .

Didn't you used to be an airforce airplane mechanic? Pretty big jump,
isn't it? hehe
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 11:22:42 AM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:05:19 +0100 in alt.atheism, Rune Børsjø (Rune
Børsjø <buggeroffm@te.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> wrote:

As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas. I
have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics and
would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .


Didn't you used to be an airforce airplane mechanic? Pretty big jump,
isn't it? hehe

Nah. It's all down to how you stoke the engines.
.

User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 05:47:27 PM
"Rune Børsjø" <buggeroffm@te.com> wrote in message
news:f9oko05unej4e3o2q6cv5kk53jfotq57vm@4ax.com...

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> wrote:

As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas. I
have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics

and

would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .


Didn't you used to be an airforce airplane mechanic? Pretty big jump,
isn't it? hehe

People are machines too. Wet, squidgy machines.
For example, the way to field clean a jet engine is exactly the same method
I recommend to cleanse ones bowels--simply throw several shovelfuls of
walnut shells through while the system is running at idle thrust. (Don't
stand anywhere near the exhaust while doing this.)
Raptor514
.


User: "L. Raymond"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 12:06:30 AM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, Raptor514 wrote:

Greetings all,

As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas. I
have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics and
would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .

Here's the url: http://www.dallastherapeutics.com and I really appreciate
any critiques or suggestions. I would also like to know if it doesn't
display right on your machine.

Since Mr. Klein did the text, I'll just make a few comments on the
layout. These will probably seem unbearably nit-picky, but they're
important for image.
Title: Rather than "Home", it would be more professional to title the
page "Dallas Massage Therapeutics", and maybe a short, as in three to
four words, slogan. Remember, the page's title is what displays in the
Windows taskbar so people with multiple programs running know what's
what. They should see "Home" and wonder what they were looking at.
"Hello and welcome to Dallas Massage Therapeutics!" It may have been
intentional for the "HE" to be smaller than the rest of the sentance,
but it suggests an error.
The pages for Techniques and Doctors are named toppage1 and toppage3,
which is not very professional, and the For Doctors page should not be
titled "Contact".
This is a purely personal observation, but did you consider dropping the

style for the lists in for_doctors.htm and just going with the

default bulleted list layout? It seems a little pressed for space the
way it is.
The For Patients page shouldn't be titled "Home". Also, you used a size
2 font rather than 3, like the rest of the pages. The title and font
comments also apply to for_mts.htm and research.htm
Rather than defining the Grip Strength image on research.htm to be a
smaller size, it were better to use a graphics program to shrink it. As
it is, it's both harder to read and it doesn't look quite so good.
Also on research.htm, the lower info box on the right really shouldn't
be justified as it's leaving huge spaces between words. Plus you forgot
a subject for the first sentance in that box (what can move between?).
Last of all, my browser (Mozilla 1.3.1 on Win98) was wildly unhappy with
something on each page. I assume the applet at top, but I didn't check
to see. Not one page ever loaded entirely. That is, all the text and
each image displayed, but it never changed from Loading to Finished.
That really slowed down the speed with which I could view each page.
--
L. Raymond
.
User: "Raptor514"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 09:19:45 AM
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:1hmv7vv7k7y1.yuf6dsei9d7i.dlg@40tude.net...

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 03:46:22 GMT, Raptor514 wrote:

Greetings all,

As some of you know I am a medical massage therapist in Dallas, Texas.

I

have recently rebuilt and rewritten the website for Dallas Therapeutics

and

would love feedback from anyone who cares to offer. I know we have some
webmaster types out there as well. . .

Here's the url: http://www.dallastherapeutics.com and I really

appreciate

any critiques or suggestions. I would also like to know if it doesn't
display right on your machine.


Since Mr. Klein did the text, I'll just make a few comments on the
layout. These will probably seem unbearably nit-picky, but they're
important for image.

Title: Rather than "Home", it would be more professional to title the
page "Dallas Massage Therapeutics", and maybe a short, as in three to
four words, slogan. Remember, the page's title is what displays in the
Windows taskbar so people with multiple programs running know what's
what. They should see "Home" and wonder what they were looking at.

"Hello and welcome to Dallas Massage Therapeutics!" It may have been
intentional for the "HE" to be smaller than the rest of the sentance,
but it suggests an error.

The pages for Techniques and Doctors are named toppage1 and toppage3,
which is not very professional, and the For Doctors page should not be
titled "Contact".

This is a purely personal observation, but did you consider dropping the

style for the lists in for_doctors.htm and just going with the

default bulleted list layout? It seems a little pressed for space the
way it is.

The For Patients page shouldn't be titled "Home". Also, you used a size
2 font rather than 3, like the rest of the pages. The title and font
comments also apply to for_mts.htm and research.htm

Rather than defining the Grip Strength image on research.htm to be a
smaller size, it were better to use a graphics program to shrink it. As
it is, it's both harder to read and it doesn't look quite so good.

Also on research.htm, the lower info box on the right really shouldn't
be justified as it's leaving huge spaces between words. Plus you forgot
a subject for the first sentance in that box (what can move between?).

Last of all, my browser (Mozilla 1.3.1 on Win98) was wildly unhappy with
something on each page. I assume the applet at top, but I didn't check
to see. Not one page ever loaded entirely. That is, all the text and
each image displayed, but it never changed from Loading to Finished.
That really slowed down the speed with which I could view each page.

Those are exactly the kinds of detailed suggestions I was hoping for. Thank
you very much!
This page is mostly targeted to doctors and I need it to be as perfect as I
can get it. (And I'm a complete IT amateur.)
Raptor514










--
L. Raymond

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User: "L. Raymond"

Title: Re: OT: Professional Website 04 Nov 2004 01:20:35 PM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 15:19:45 GMT, Raptor514 wrote:

Those are exactly the kinds of detailed suggestions I was hoping for. Thank
you very much!

This page is mostly targeted to doctors and I need it to be as perfect as I
can get it. (And I'm a complete IT amateur.)

I'd be happy to check over any future work, if you like. I've been a
project manager and head of programing at two different web deisgn
companies and I'm always happy to help people get started in a new line
of work.
--
L. Raymond
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