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User: "stoney"
Date: 17 Nov 2003 01:57:40 PM
Object: OT: Rumsfeld
http://slate.msn.com/id/2091234/
Whopper: Donald Rumsfeld
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, Nov. 14, 2003, at 12:45 PM PT
"Q: Before the war in Iraq, you stated the case very eloquently and you
said, I remember this it was done very well, you said they would welcome
us with open arms.
"A: Never said that.
"Q: Never said that?
"A: Never did. You may remember it well, but you're thinking of somebody
else. You can't find anywhere me saying anything like either one of
those two things you just said I said. I may look like somebody else."
—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Sept. 25, 2003 interview with
Sinclair Broadcasting.
Continue Article
"Q: Do you expect the invasion, if it comes, to be welcomed by the
majority of the civilian population of Iraq?
"A: There's obviously the Shia population in Iraq and the Kurdish
population in Iraq have been treated very badly by Saddam Hussein's
regime, they represent a large fraction of the total. There is no
question but that they would be welcomed. Go back to Afghanistan, the
people were in the streets playing music, cheering, flying kites, and
doing all the things that the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda would not let
them do."
—Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Feb. 20, 2003 interview with
PBS's NewsHour.
(Thanks to Eric Rosenberg, Hearst Newspapers.)
Got a whopper? Send it to Chatterbox@slate.com. To be considered, an
entry must be an unambiguously false statement paired with an
unambiguous refutation, and both must be derived from some appropriately
reliable public source. Preference will be given to newspapers and other
documents that Chatterbox can link to online.
(c) 2003 to the sources


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Rumsfeld 18 Nov 2003 01:14:29 AM
In article <9v9irv0rorie0t55hkc0mlfclalt3fs6df@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2091234/

Whopper: Donald Rumsfeld
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, Nov. 14, 2003, at 12:45 PM PT

"Q: Before the war in Iraq, you stated the case very eloquently and you
said, I remember this it was done very well, you said they would welcome
us with open arms.

"A: Never said that.

"Q: Never said that?

"A: Never did. You may remember it well, but you're thinking of somebody
else. You can't find anywhere me saying anything like either one of
those two things you just said I said. I may look like somebody else."

—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Sept. 25, 2003 interview with
Sinclair Broadcasting.

Continue Article

"Q: Do you expect the invasion, if it comes, to be welcomed by the
majority of the civilian population of Iraq?

"A: There's obviously the Shia population in Iraq and the Kurdish
population in Iraq have been treated very badly by Saddam Hussein's
regime, they represent a large fraction of the total. There is no
question but that they would be welcomed. Go back to Afghanistan, the
people were in the streets playing music, cheering, flying kites, and
doing all the things that the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda would not let
them do."

—Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Feb. 20, 2003 interview with
PBS's NewsHour.

(Thanks to Eric Rosenberg, Hearst Newspapers.)

Got a whopper? Send it to Chatterbox@slate.com. To be considered, an
entry must be an unambiguously false statement paired with an
unambiguous refutation, and both must be derived from some appropriately
reliable public source. Preference will be given to newspapers and other
documents that Chatterbox can link to online.

(c) 2003 to the sources


Typical.

Hey, Stoney, have you seen this site? Every day the publish the latest
BS from BushCo, Inc.
http://www.misleader.org
They will Email you daily alerts, if you wish.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782

- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Rumsfeld 21 Nov 2003 09:10:06 PM
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:14:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@remove.ixpres.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-B449CD.23142917112003@news-central.ash.giganews.com>
wrote in alt.atheism;

In article <9v9irv0rorie0t55hkc0mlfclalt3fs6df@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2091234/

Whopper: Donald Rumsfeld
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, Nov. 14, 2003, at 12:45 PM PT

"Q: Before the war in Iraq, you stated the case very eloquently and you
said, I remember this it was done very well, you said they would welcome
us with open arms.

"A: Never said that.

"Q: Never said that?

"A: Never did. You may remember it well, but you're thinking of somebody
else. You can't find anywhere me saying anything like either one of
those two things you just said I said. I may look like somebody else."

—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Sept. 25, 2003 interview with
Sinclair Broadcasting.

Continue Article

"Q: Do you expect the invasion, if it comes, to be welcomed by the
majority of the civilian population of Iraq?

"A: There's obviously the Shia population in Iraq and the Kurdish
population in Iraq have been treated very badly by Saddam Hussein's
regime, they represent a large fraction of the total. There is no
question but that they would be welcomed. Go back to Afghanistan, the
people were in the streets playing music, cheering, flying kites, and
doing all the things that the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda would not let
them do."

—Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Feb. 20, 2003 interview with
PBS's NewsHour.

(Thanks to Eric Rosenberg, Hearst Newspapers.)

Got a whopper? Send it to Chatterbox@slate.com. To be considered, an
entry must be an unambiguously false statement paired with an
unambiguous refutation, and both must be derived from some appropriately
reliable public source. Preference will be given to newspapers and other
documents that Chatterbox can link to online.

(c) 2003 to the sources

Typical.

Sadly to say.

Hey, Stoney, have you seen this site? Every day the publish the latest
BS from BushCo, Inc.

http://www.misleader.org

They will Email you daily alerts, if you wish.

Interesting site....Thank you.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.


User: ""

Title: Re: OT: Rumsfeld 17 Nov 2003 05:52:42 PM
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:57:40 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://slate.msn.com/id/2091234/

Whopper: Donald Rumsfeld
By Timothy Noah
Posted Friday, Nov. 14, 2003, at 12:45 PM PT

"Q: Before the war in Iraq, you stated the case very eloquently and you
said, I remember this it was done very well, you said they would welcome
us with open arms.

"A: Never said that.

"Q: Never said that?

"A: Never did. You may remember it well, but you're thinking of somebody
else. You can't find anywhere me saying anything like either one of
those two things you just said I said. I may look like somebody else."

—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Sept. 25, 2003 interview with
Sinclair Broadcasting.

Continue Article

"Q: Do you expect the invasion, if it comes, to be welcomed by the
majority of the civilian population of Iraq?

"A: There's obviously the Shia population in Iraq and the Kurdish
population in Iraq have been treated very badly by Saddam Hussein's
regime, they represent a large fraction of the total. There is no
question but that they would be welcomed. Go back to Afghanistan, the
people were in the streets playing music, cheering, flying kites, and
doing all the things that the Taliban and the Al-Qaeda would not let
them do."

—Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in a Feb. 20, 2003 interview with
PBS's NewsHour.

(Thanks to Eric Rosenberg, Hearst Newspapers.)

Got a whopper? Send it to Chatterbox@slate.com. To be considered, an
entry must be an unambiguously false statement paired with an
unambiguous refutation, and both must be derived from some appropriately
reliable public source. Preference will be given to newspapers and other
documents that Chatterbox can link to online.

(c) 2003 to the sources



Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"

When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert

alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}

That's how it's done. He DID say it but in a bunch of words that
nobody can remember. Notice he referred to the wording in his denial.
It's hard to believe so many people fall for that cheap trick.
The reporters are going to need to have the full text and read it word
for word to Rummy next tine they ask him a question like that. I'll
bet that Rummy wouldn't let a reporter have enough time to read the
full thing anyway.
drift
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: OT: Rumsfeld 18 Nov 2003 10:56:36 PM
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:52:42 -0500,
posted in
alt.atheism:

The reporters are going to need to have the full text and read it word
for word to Rummy next tine they ask him a question like that. I'll
bet that Rummy wouldn't let a reporter have enough time to read the
full thing anyway.

The reporter could have just left off the "with open arms" part, and
Rumdum would have had no place to turn. Oh, I'm sure he would have
denied it just as vehemently, but that would have left no room for
ambiguity.
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
.



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