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User: "stoney"
Date: 28 Jan 2004 11:11:50 PM
Object: OT: Scientists create new form of matter
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/
Scientists create new form of matter
Fermionic condensate could have practical applications
By Maggie Fox
Health and Science Correspondent
Updated: 7:14 p.m. ET Jan. 28, 2004
WASHINGTON - Scientists say they have created a new form of matter and
predict it could help lead to the next generation of superconductors for
use in power distribution, more efficient trains and countless other
applications.
The new matter form is called a fermionic condensate, and it is the
sixth known form of matter — after gases, solids, liquids, plasma and
Bose-Einstein condensate, created only in 1995.
“What we’ve done is create this new exotic form of matter,” said Deborah
Jin, a physicist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology’s
joint lab with the University of Colorado, who led the study.
“It is a scientific breakthrough in providing a new type of quantum
mechanical behavior,” Jin added during a news conference.
A superconductor, sort of
The cloud of supercooled potassium atoms brings Jin and fellow
researchers one step closer to an everyday, usable superconductor — a
material that conducts electricity without losing any of its energy.
“It is related to a Bose-Einstein condensate,” Jin said. ”It’s not a
superconductor, but it is really something in between these two that may
help us in science link these two interesting behaviors.”
And other researchers may find practical applications.
“If you had a superconductor, you could transmit electricity with no
losses,” Jin said. “Right now something like 10 percent of all
electricity we produce in the United States is lost. It heats up wires.
It doesn’t do anybody any good.”
Superconductors also could allow for the invention of magnetically
levitated trains, she added. Free of friction, they could glide along at
high speeds using a fraction of the energy trains now use.
Better than a boson
Jin, a recent recipient of a MacArthur Foundation “genius grant,” was
building on the discovery of the Bose-Einstein condensate by her
colleagues Eric Cornell and Carl Wieman. They won the 2001 Nobel Prize
in Physics for the discovery.
Bose-Einstein condensates are collections of thousands of ultracold
particles that occupy a single quantum state. They all essentially
behave like a single, huge superatom. But Jin said these Bose-Einstein
condensates are made with bosons, which like to act in unison.
“Bosons are copycats. They basically want to do what everyone else is
doing,” she said.
Her team’s new form of matter uses fermions — the everyday building
blocks of matter that include protons, electrons and neutrons.
“They are not copycats,” Jin said. “Fermions are your independent
thinkers — they don’t copy their neighbors.”
Jin’s team coaxed them into doing just that.
They cooled potassium gas to a billionth of a degree above absolute
zero, or minus-459 degrees Fahrenheit — which is the point at which
matter stops moving. They confined that supercooled gas in a vacuum
chamber, then used magnetic fields and laser light to manipulate the
potassium atoms into pairing up.
“This is very similar to what happens to electrons in a superconductor,”
Jin said.
Practical application
This is more likely to provide applications in the practical world than
a Bose-Einstein condensate, she said, because fermions are what make up
solid matter.
Bosons, in contrast, are seen in photons, and subatomic particles called
W and Z particles.
Jin stressed that her team worked with a supercooled gas, which provides
little opportunity for everyday application. But the way the potassium
atoms acted suggested there should be a way to translate the behavior
into a room-temperature solid.
“Our atoms are more strongly attracted to one another than in normal
superconductors,” she said.
Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited.


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User: "johac"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 29 Jan 2004 12:26:58 AM
In article <od5h10lo0994sur2h169j37s5jdfotlm26@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/

Scientists create new form of matter
Fermionic condensate could have practical applications

By Maggie Fox
Health and Science Correspondent
Updated: 7:14 p.m. ET Jan. 28, 2004

WASHINGTON - Scientists say they have created a new form of matter and
predict it could help lead to the next generation of superconductors for
use in power distribution, more efficient trains and countless other
applications.

The new matter form is called a fermionic condensate, and it is the
sixth known form of matter — after gases, solids, liquids, plasma and
Bose-Einstein condensate, created only in 1995.

“What we’ve done is create this new exotic form of matter,” said Deborah
Jin, a physicist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology’s
joint lab with the University of Colorado, who led the study.

“It is a scientific breakthrough in providing a new type of quantum
mechanical behavior,” Jin added during a news conference.

A superconductor, sort of
The cloud of supercooled potassium atoms brings Jin and fellow
researchers one step closer to an everyday, usable superconductor — a
material that conducts electricity without losing any of its energy.

“It is related to a Bose-Einstein condensate,” Jin said. ”It’s not a
superconductor, but it is really something in between these two that may
help us in science link these two interesting behaviors.”

And other researchers may find practical applications.

“If you had a superconductor, you could transmit electricity with no
losses,” Jin said. “Right now something like 10 percent of all
electricity we produce in the United States is lost. It heats up wires.
It doesn’t do anybody any good.”

Superconductors also could allow for the invention of magnetically
levitated trains, she added. Free of friction, they could glide along at
high speeds using a fraction of the energy trains now use.

Better than a boson
Jin, a recent recipient of a MacArthur Foundation “genius grant,” was
building on the discovery of the Bose-Einstein condensate by her
colleagues Eric Cornell and Carl Wieman. They won the 2001 Nobel Prize
in Physics for the discovery.

Bose-Einstein condensates are collections of thousands of ultracold
particles that occupy a single quantum state. They all essentially
behave like a single, huge superatom. But Jin said these Bose-Einstein
condensates are made with bosons, which like to act in unison.

“Bosons are copycats. They basically want to do what everyone else is
doing,” she said.

Her team’s new form of matter uses fermions — the everyday building
blocks of matter that include protons, electrons and neutrons.

“They are not copycats,” Jin said. “Fermions are your independent
thinkers — they don’t copy their neighbors.”

Jin’s team coaxed them into doing just that.

They cooled potassium gas to a billionth of a degree above absolute
zero, or minus-459 degrees Fahrenheit — which is the point at which
matter stops moving. They confined that supercooled gas in a vacuum
chamber, then used magnetic fields and laser light to manipulate the
potassium atoms into pairing up.

“This is very similar to what happens to electrons in a superconductor,”
Jin said.

Practical application
This is more likely to provide applications in the practical world than
a Bose-Einstein condensate, she said, because fermions are what make up
solid matter.

Bosons, in contrast, are seen in photons, and subatomic particles called
W and Z particles.

Jin stressed that her team worked with a supercooled gas, which provides
little opportunity for everyday application. But the way the potassium
atoms acted suggested there should be a way to translate the behavior
into a room-temperature solid.

“Our atoms are more strongly attracted to one another than in normal
superconductors,” she said.

Copyright 2004 Reuters Limited.


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User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 29 Jan 2004 08:41:52 AM
stoney wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/

While the news itself is fantastic, what tickles me most is seeing a woman's
name at the front of the research, especially for something as bleeding edge
as this.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
.
User: "Alun Harford"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 29 Jan 2004 11:32:21 AM
"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:40191BB0.DB8FB70F@serv.net...

stoney wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/


While the news itself is fantastic, what tickles me most is seeing a

woman's

name at the front of the research, especially for something as bleeding

edge

as this.

?
Why?
Alun Harford
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 29 Jan 2004 11:02:24 PM
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:32:21 -0000, "Alun Harford"
<alunharford@yahoo.com>, Message ID:
<bvbg2m$64s$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk> wrote in alt.atheism;

"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:40191BB0.DB8FB70F@serv.net...

stoney wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/


While the news itself is fantastic, what tickles me most is seeing a

woman's

name at the front of the research, especially for something as bleeding

edge

as this.


?
Why?

Alun Harford

Because, in the main, it is still the stone age over here. Women don't
have brains, education, or the ability to think according to a lot of
people which includes other women.
It has, slowly, been getting better. Strangely enough, the military's
been in the forefront of things. I say strangely enough as the military
is generally viewed by the public as being 'hide bound' and well behind
the times. This is, in spite of, them being in the forefront of things
since the late 1950's when several Navy admirals (4 iirc) were fired by
the CNO (chief of naval operations) for not integrating blacks into
chains of command.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.


User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 29 Jan 2004 10:56:40 PM
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:41:52 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>,
Message ID: <40191BB0.DB8FB70F@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

stoney wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/


While the news itself is fantastic, what tickles me most is seeing a woman's
name at the front of the research, especially for something as bleeding edge
as this.

Indeed. Sadly, the ladies have a tendency to be short-changed.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.
User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 02 Feb 2004 08:42:26 AM
stoney wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:41:52 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>,
Message ID: <40191BB0.DB8FB70F@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

stoney wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/


While the news itself is fantastic, what tickles me most is seeing a woman's
name at the front of the research, especially for something as bleeding edge
as this.


Indeed. Sadly, the ladies have a tendency to be short-changed.

I remember a quote by... I don't recall the name. It went something along the
lines of, "Women have had an incredible number of firsts: First vice-presidential
candidate. First astronaut. What we need now are seconds."
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Scientists create new form of matter 03 Feb 2004 07:24:41 PM
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:42:26 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>,
Message ID: <401E61D2.5B575424@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

stoney wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:41:52 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>,
Message ID: <40191BB0.DB8FB70F@serv.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

stoney wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4090003/


While the news itself is fantastic, what tickles me most is seeing a woman's
name at the front of the research, especially for something as bleeding edge
as this.


Indeed. Sadly, the ladies have a tendency to be short-changed.


I remember a quote by... I don't recall the name. It went something along the
lines of, "Women have had an incredible number of firsts: First vice-presidential
candidate. First astronaut. What we need now are seconds."

Accurate.


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.





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