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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Fester"
Date: 15 Aug 2007 06:15:08 AM
Object: OT: The environmental costs of being green
Biofuels sound like a good idea, and indeed they are. But overnight,
artificial demand for the as yet more expensive fuel may prove to be
disastrous for our ecology. The demand, created by the bogus CO2 scare,
that's become so politically persuasive these days has led to real, tangible
disasters like the one described here:
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/
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Crucifying Apes on a Cross of Green [Iain Murray]
The short-sighted idiocy of biofuels is not just confined to the ethanol
boondoggle in the US. In much of the rest of the world there is a demand for
biodiesel, which is being met in large part by the clearing of rainforests
in Indonesia. The Daily Telegraph in the UK has the story of how these
clearances involve the slaughter of the greatest of the Great Apes, the
Orang-Utan:
As jungles are rapidly replaced by palm oil plantations, the great apes
starve and are hunted, mutilated, burnt and snared by workers protecting
their crops.At a rehabilitation centre run by the charity Borneo Orang-utan
Survival, there are more than 600, mostly orphaned babies. Lone Nielsen, the
centre's director, estimates that for each of the 227 animals they rescued
last year, five more were killed in central Borneo alone.
The unspeakable truth is that this would not be happening on the same scale
were it not for the European Union's climate change goals:
With the world desperate for "green" fuels, demand for palm oil, which is
used in bio-diesel, is guaranteed to increase. According to European
legislation two per cent of all diesel must be vegetable oil, rising to 5.7
per cent in 2010 and 10 per cent by 2020.
Free-market environmentalism says that the rainforests will be protected if
there is a non-use value placed on them higher than the use value. It is
sheer insanity that governmental environmentalism has actually raised the
use value by means of such regulation.
As one of the most famous orang-utans in literature would say, "Ook" ("It
may be a vital oxygenating biomass to you, but it's home to me.")
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User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: The environmental costs of being green 15 Aug 2007 08:31:16 AM
Fester wrote:

Biofuels sound like a good idea, and indeed they are. But overnight,
artificial demand for the as yet more expensive fuel

More expensive than what? Than oil? If everything we do to ensure the flow
of oil into the US was factored in, and not taking into account the misery
it has wreaked on families all over the globe, a gallon of gas would
probably cost about $10.
I'm not a big fan of ethanol based fuels from corn, but at least it's
relatively carbon-neutral and we don't have to worry about getting fucked in
the ***** by some farmer in Iowa like we do with Bush's buddies in Riyadh.
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