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"Therion Ware" |
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07 Feb 2005 04:12:46 AM |
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OT: A death in the family (sort of). |
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
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| User: "Khendon" |
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| Title: Re: A death in the family (sort of). |
09 Feb 2005 01:20:38 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:phde019dj9ms2joe01dfkkbsiq0227p4fn@4ax.com...
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years.
And I'd bet those were 16 of the best years of your (and her) life.
On Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
That you took her in to the vet so quickly also shows how much you care.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her.
You did the right thing - you let her life end with the person she knew
right beside her, able to feel and smell you.
She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
They might think that they found someone from old Egypt - who still
"worshipped" their feline. (as the old joke goes, cats were worshipped as
gods back then, and they haven't forgotten it)
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Not silly whatsoever. And it's not "only a cat". She was your companion,
and, as you said, your *friend*.
And it's never "silly" to mourn for the loss of a friend.
I've only had my puppy-cat (he thinks he's part dog) for less than a decade,
but a more devoted feline friend I doubt I could ever find...
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
My deepest sympathies go out to you on your loss.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: A death in the family (sort of). |
07 Feb 2005 07:48:03 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:phde019dj9ms2joe01dfkkbsiq0227p4fn@4ax.com...
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
Hon, I am SO sorry. Please accept my sincere condolences. And believe me,
she wasn't "only a cat". Every cat owner knows this. Take care.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Ichimusai" |
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07 Feb 2005 02:08:03 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
Hon, I am SO sorry. Please accept my sincere condolences. And believe me,
she wasn't "only a cat". Every cat owner knows this. Take care.
Definitely!
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Ichimusai http://ichimusai.org/ AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai
MSN: Ichimusai1972 AOL: Ichimusai1972 IRC: Ichimusai@IRCNet
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft.
That will just be a completely unintentional side effect
-Linus Torvalds
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: A death in the family (sort of). |
09 Feb 2005 08:47:56 AM |
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I should like to thank everyone who replied to this thread. Please
don't take this personally, but I would find it problematic, for lots
of reasons, to reply individually, but every sentiment is genuinely
appreciated.
My, fiend, ah, friend, the cat, Neshmah. 1989 - 2005.
And thank you.
Therion.
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Feb 2005 03:08:24 PM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:48:03 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:phde019dj9ms2joe01dfkkbsiq0227p4fn@4ax.com...
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
Hon, I am SO sorry. Please accept my sincere condolences. And believe me,
she wasn't "only a cat". Every cat owner knows this. Take care.
Ditto. :\
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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09 Feb 2005 03:13:14 PM |
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Oh, Therion. I'm *so* very sorry.
I lost 2 cats to hepatic lipidosis a while back, and the wound is still
painful.
BTW, there's no such thing as "just a cat." She *was* part of your
family, and you did right by her, by helping to ease her out of her
misery.
If you ever feel like telling it, I would love to hear the story about
the pot smoker, the neighbour, and the slippery socks. Just warn me
first, so I don't have a mouthful of liquid when I read it.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: OT: A death in the family (sort of). |
08 Feb 2005 12:47:45 AM |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:12:46 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> said in alt.atheism:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.
So sorry, Therion. We lost one about a year ago, after 16 years, so I
kind of know what you're going through.
My sympathies.
--
"If knowledge can create problems, it is not through ignorance that we can
solve them."
-Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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08 Feb 2005 02:00:14 AM |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:12:46 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> said in alt.atheism:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.
Sorry to hear that, Therion. I lost my Cally last October,
one month before her 18th birthday. I'd offered to help
her register to vote, but she never said whether she was a
Democat or a Republicat.
Do you have any other cats?
Mickey
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Feb 2005 03:11:08 PM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 03:00:14 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:12:46 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> said in alt.atheism:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.
Sorry to hear that, Therion. I lost my Cally last October,
one month before her 18th birthday. I'd offered to help
her register to vote, but she never said whether she was a
Democat or a Republicat.
MICKEY! I'm surprised at you! You should know by now that cat's are
strictly independacats!
Do you have any other cats?
Mickey
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "" |
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| Title: t isn't silly.Re: OT: A death in the family (sort of). |
07 Feb 2005 09:38:17 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 10:12:46 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
My condolences. I love cats, and have had a few that have passed away.
Traumatising. Nothing replaces that cat who died.
We go on, and other cats need cat lovers, and I went to the humane
society and got a great cat, then adopted one from a girl who's
landlord forbade the cat. I'm better off and so are both cats.
It isn't silly. Not only a cat. A living animal, that needed you, and
passed on. Provide good quarter for another one, or a few. You'll be
ok. And so will they.
drift
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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08 Feb 2005 02:40:19 AM |
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 04:12:46 -0600, Therion Ware wrote
(in article <phde019dj9ms2joe01dfkkbsiq0227p4fn@4ax.com>):
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
I pretty much know what you mean, Leo was with me for 15 years, age 6 to 21.
Damn I miss him, the old grump.
At least he was a good conversationalist, and he loved the ladies.
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Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"We've upped our standards, up yours."-EAC Department of Literary
Standards-Desdinova
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| User: "Ichimusai" |
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07 Feb 2005 02:03:52 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> writes:
[...]
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden
with her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten
to a grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to
someone and hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists,
social anthropologists and so on.
<cries>
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your
fiend, ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a
ledge that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and
slippery socks.
It's not silly at all. I did not know her, and I still cried when I
read about it. I know how much they mean to you, I got two cats with
me here and I dread the day that I have to go on when one of them has
to pass on.
They are the best friends, especially when I am feeling sad or alone
or so, they just *know* and comes and comforts me.
<sniff>
--
Ichimusai http://ichimusai.org/ AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai
MSN: Ichimusai1972 AOL: Ichimusai1972 IRC: Ichimusai@IRCNet
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger."
-- Hermann Goering
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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07 Feb 2005 08:56:53 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:phde019dj9ms2joe01dfkkbsiq0227p4fn@4ax.com:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
I lost my only cat 25 years ago. I never felt the urge to replace what
couldn't be replaced. So sorry.
--
Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Ichimusai" |
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07 Feb 2005 02:06:11 PM |
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Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> writes:
[...]
I lost my only cat 25 years ago. I never felt the urge to replace what
couldn't be replaced. So sorry.
That is what I thought when the first cat in the family died. I did
not want another cat, but eventually the family got one after all.
Guess what, the new cat in no way replaced the old one. Instead it
became a new friend with it's own very particular set of habits. Now
that second cat has passed on and I am living on my own now with two
gremlins of my own, none of them replaced anoter cat, they are all
their own very distinct personalities.
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Ichimusai http://ichimusai.org/ AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai
MSN: Ichimusai1972 AOL: Ichimusai1972 IRC: Ichimusai@IRCNet
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we.
-George Bush 2004/08/20040805
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| User: "FreeThink" |
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08 Feb 2005 01:02:07 AM |
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Ichimusai wrote:
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> writes:
[...]
I lost my only cat 25 years ago. I never felt the urge to replace
what
couldn't be replaced. So sorry.
That is what I thought when the first cat in the family died. I did
not want another cat, but eventually the family got one after all.
Guess what, the new cat in no way replaced the old one. Instead it
became a new friend with it's own very particular set of habits. Now
that second cat has passed on and I am living on my own now with two
gremlins of my own, none of them replaced anoter cat, they are all
their own very distinct personalities.
Individualism is what I value most in cats. When a cat chooses to
connect with you it seems to be a very genuine act. We know that they
have no reason to show interest in us other than really being
interested.
Sorry for your loss. I like the time capsule idea.
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Ichimusai http://ichimusai.org/ AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai
MSN: Ichimusai1972 AOL: Ichimusai1972 IRC: Ichimusai@IRCNet
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we.
-George Bush 2004/08/20040805
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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09 Feb 2005 03:17:53 PM |
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Not to mention the fact that there are so many in shelters who need
homes! I am quite sure that my dear departed would approve of the fact
that I've given other cats a home they otherwise wouldn't have had.
They aren't "replacements."
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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09 Feb 2005 03:33:27 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged
the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden
with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your
fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
I'm sorry to hear that. I just got a cat after not having one for
about ten years. I had forgotten how wonderful they are. It's not
silly.
I'm about to cry, so I'll just end it here...
-LisaKay
aa #2054
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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07 Feb 2005 11:05:57 AM |
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on 07 Feb 2005 in alt.atheism, Therion Ware dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
Well, sort of.
My cat, Neshmah, died on Saturday.. She'd been with me 16 years. On
Friday evening she suddenly threw up and, developed head twitching,
and couldn't walk. 30 minutes later at the vet's, he gave her some
"stiffeners" and told me to come back on the Saturday when a brain
tumour had been diagnosed. He gave her a week or so with little that
could be done about the increasing physical incapacity.and associated
distress.
So I opted to have her killed. The vet injected her, and I plunged the
syringe. Which I thought my personal responsibility.
She died peacefully, as I stroked her. She's buried in the garden with
her toys and a well sealed DVD of her in action from a kitten to a
grand old cat. Which in due course may be interesting to someone and
hopefully confuse future generations of archeologists, social
anthropologists and so on.
Silly, isn't it? Only a cat. But in so far as a cat can be your fiend,
ah, friend, she was. Apart from the incident 6 floors up on a ledge
that involved the pot smoker, a concerned neighbour, and slippery
socks.
Oh well. The other cats are meandering for position. And so it goes.
Mine is 16 now. I think her vision is going. We installed night lights so
she can find the cat box and her food in the middle of the night. She
still wakes us up at 5:30 every morning, and the only thing I can see that
she needs is to be close to someone.
I euthanized an old dog a few years ago, so I know what you're going
through. It's like losing a kid, I guess.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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| User: "Ichimusai" |
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07 Feb 2005 02:07:35 PM |
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Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> writes:
Mine is 16 now. I think her vision is going. We installed night lights so
she can find the cat box and her food in the middle of the night. She
still wakes us up at 5:30 every morning, and the only thing I can see that
she needs is to be close to someone.
Aw!
I euthanized an old dog a few years ago, so I know what you're going
through. It's like losing a kid, I guess.
It's terrible. Just terrible.
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Ichimusai http://ichimusai.org/ AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai
MSN: Ichimusai1972 AOL: Ichimusai1972 IRC: Ichimusai@IRCNet
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft.
That will just be a completely unintentional side effect
-Linus Torvalds
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