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11 Mar 2005 04:12:06 PM |
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OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/11/opinion/11fri2.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.7824
Whitewash is typical of the reports issued by the Bush administration
on the abuse, humiliation and torture of prisoners at camps run by the
military.
Welfare vs. Wall St.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25616-2005Mar10.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become the
largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security could
hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman Sachs.
This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts; other
proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone has
thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much stock
in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn out to be
a huge mistake -- or worse.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://tinyurl.com/6nz2q
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| User: "Heretic" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
11 Mar 2005 05:55:26 PM |
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On 11 Mar 2005 14:12:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/11/opinion/11fri2.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.7824
Whitewash is typical of the reports issued by the Bush administration
on the abuse, humiliation and torture of prisoners at camps run by the
military.
Welfare vs. Wall St.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25616-2005Mar10.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become the
largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security could
hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman Sachs.
This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts; other
proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone has
thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much stock
in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn out to be
a huge mistake -- or worse.
Especially when they all try to cash out their stock at the same time.
Could crash the fucking market.
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Our greatest Americans were not Christian! Our flag has never flown a crucifix!
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." -Benjamin Franklin
"We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication." -Thomas Jefferson
"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." -John Adams
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." -James Madison
"That Jesus Christ was not God is evidence from his own words." -Ethan Allen
"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion" -Passed unanimously, US Senate, 1797
EVIGILARE PECUA!
http://unrealitycheck.com
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
11 Mar 2005 04:57:54 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
14 Mar 2005 08:29:46 AM |
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"Bobby D. Bryant" wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
It amazes me that the Great Market Crash of Bush Being sElected President
taught the rightards absolutely nothing.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[T]hose who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves;
and, under the rule of a just God, cannot long retain it."
-- Pres. George W. Bush, Hypocrite, his inauguration speech, 2005
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
14 Mar 2005 04:28:00 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 06:29:46 -0800, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:
"Bobby D. Bryant" wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
It amazes me that the Great Market Crash of Bush Being sElected President
taught the rightards absolutely nothing.
It doesn't amaze me at all. First, they don't give a burrito fart
about anyone without the proper 'lineage, and income figures.'
Second, they're simply using the opportunity to rape the system to
further their own ends. Thirdly, they'll shift their investments to
international holdings.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
14 Mar 2005 08:41:37 PM |
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(Bobby D. Bryant) wrote in message news:<d0t7ph$fhd$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>...
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
Easy solution: Tell investors to buy Euros instead of playing
the stock market. When the dollar crashes, the value of their
money will increase dramatically. As well, Shrub and his ilk
who stuck with the US dollar will lose in exchange markets.
Everybody would be back on level footing.
Bob Dog
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
15 Mar 2005 10:15:30 PM |
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On 14 Mar 2005 18:41:37 -0800, (Bob Dog) wrote:
bdbryant@mail.utexas.edu (Bobby D. Bryant) wrote in message news:<d0t7ph$fhd$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>...
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
Easy solution: Tell investors to buy Euros instead of playing
the stock market. When the dollar crashes, the value of their
money will increase dramatically. As well, Shrub and his ilk
who stuck with the US dollar will lose in exchange markets.
Everybody would be back on level footing.
/cue 1920's Germany.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Richard Clayton" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
11 Mar 2005 05:19:20 PM |
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Bobby D. Bryant wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
And once that happens, of course, they can use it to "prove" that the
whole concept of providing for the elderly is fundamentally flawed, and
eradicate social security programs altogether. After all, only people
making fewer than six figures have to worry about financing their
retirement, and who cares about them?
--
[The address listed is a spam trap. To reply, take off every zig.]
Richard Clayton
"During wars laws are silent." -- Cicero
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Abu Ghraib, Whitewashed Again |
14 Mar 2005 04:24:05 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:57:54 +0000 (UTC),
(Bobby D. Bryant) wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.5900
By Robert J. Samuelson, Page A23
Let's suppose Congress approves President Bush's "personal accounts"
for Social Security. The Social Security system would then become
the largest single investor in U.S. stocks. By 2050 Social Security
could hold 25 percent of all stocks, estimate economists at Goldman
Sachs. This estimate reflects a modest plan for personal accounts;
other proposals would permit bigger stock purchases. Hardly anyone
has thought about the economic consequences of concentrating so much
stock in the Social Security system. My hunch is that it would turn
out to be a huge mistake -- or worse.
Oh, they've thought about it all right. They know it will inflate
the share prices of traditional investors who know when to get out,
leaving the Social Security investors holding the bag when the
inevitable correction sets in.
As usual.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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