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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "maff"
Date: 25 Jun 2005 03:43:46 AM
Object: OT: America turns on Bush over Iraq
America turns on Bush over Iraq
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=649440
Three in five want troops out as President vows to stay
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
25 June 2005
Beset by fading public support for the war and growing violence on the
ground, President George Bush flatly rejected any timetable for troop
withdrawal from Iraq, vowing the United States would stay until the
insurgency was defeated and democracy had been established.
"This is a time of testing, a critical time," Mr Bush acknowledged
yesterday after a meeting at the White House with Ibrahim al-Jaafari,
the Iraqi Prime Minister. The insurgents "feel that if they can shake
our will and affect our public opinion, we'll give up on the mission.
But I'm not giving up the mission, we're doing the right thing". The
President was speaking amid unprecedented challenges to his whole Iraq
policy. A week of carnage in that country was capped by news that six
marines were killed on Thursday in the former rebel stronghold of
Fallujah, lifting the total American death toll in Iraq to a total of
1,730.
Rupert Cornwell
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/ffb8c490667984b7
Bush mafia
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7033ca1f9656d7ab
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User: "Bill"

Title: Re: America turns on Bush over Iraq 25 Jun 2005 11:44:21 AM
In America the citizens fought for and won the freedom of their own country
from the British.
There is no reason why we should not withdraw from Iraq and let the Iraq's
establish their own country and style of government.
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119689026.210356.239260@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

America turns on Bush over Iraq
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=649440

Three in five want troops out as President vows to stay

By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
25 June 2005


Beset by fading public support for the war and growing violence on the
ground, President George Bush flatly rejected any timetable for troop
withdrawal from Iraq, vowing the United States would stay until the
insurgency was defeated and democracy had been established.

"This is a time of testing, a critical time," Mr Bush acknowledged
yesterday after a meeting at the White House with Ibrahim al-Jaafari,
the Iraqi Prime Minister. The insurgents "feel that if they can shake
our will and affect our public opinion, we'll give up on the mission.
But I'm not giving up the mission, we're doing the right thing". The
President was speaking amid unprecedented challenges to his whole Iraq
policy. A week of carnage in that country was capped by news that six
marines were killed on Thursday in the former rebel stronghold of
Fallujah, lifting the total American death toll in Iraq to a total of
1,730.

Rupert Cornwell
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/ffb8c490667984b7


Bush mafia
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7033ca1f9656d7ab

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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: America turns on Bush over Iraq 25 Jun 2005 11:55:38 AM
"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:JPfve.4216$Zo.1291@bignews3.bellsouth.net:

In America the citizens fought for and won the freedom of their own
country from the British.

There is no reason why we should not withdraw from Iraq and let the
Iraq's establish their own country and style of government.

They *have* established their own style of government. We are there to help
train their forces to withstand the terrorists who want to tear down that
new democratic regime before it can defend itself adequately.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
.
User: "Olrik"

Title: Re: America turns on Bush over Iraq 26 Jun 2005 12:40:23 AM
Fred Stone wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:JPfve.4216$Zo.1291@bignews3.bellsouth.net:


In America the citizens fought for and won the freedom of their own
country from the British.

There is no reason why we should not withdraw from Iraq and let the
Iraq's establish their own country and style of government.



They *have* established their own style of government. We are there to help
train their forces to withstand the terrorists who want to tear down that
new democratic regime before it can defend itself adequately.

You are there because you invaded their country, remember?
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: America turns on Bush over Iraq 26 Jun 2005 06:07:59 AM
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:cdrve.49228$rz.1634806@wagner.videotron.net:

Fred Stone wrote:

"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:JPfve.4216$Zo.1291@bignews3.bellsouth.net:


In America the citizens fought for and won the freedom of their own
country from the British.

There is no reason why we should not withdraw from Iraq and let the
Iraq's establish their own country and style of government.



They *have* established their own style of government. We are there
to help train their forces to withstand the terrorists who want to
tear down that new democratic regime before it can defend itself
adequately.


You are there because you invaded their country, remember?

Those are not incompatible statements.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
.





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