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One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Nano-scientist's dark secret
By Nick Green
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
In 2001, a team led by Hendrik Schoen appeared to have invented the
smallest organic transistor ever made.
Only a single molecule in length, it was hailed as a huge
breakthrough, capable of transforming the world of computers.
But, as BBC Two's Horizon programme shows this week, the
"breakthrough" led to his disgrace and began a cascade of events that
would result in one of the most intriguing science stories of recent
years.
When he published his work, Schoen's tiny transistor was regarded as a
discovery that could have blasted open the world of nanotechnology -
where cheap, powerful computers could transform the world in which we
live.
Stuff of legend
Transistors are the minute "switches" that control the flow of
information in a computer chip. The more you can fit on to a chip, the
more powerful your computer.
Schoen's transistor was far smaller than anything possible on a
silicon chip, so it seemed to herald a new age when computer power
could grow to undreamed of levels.
It was the latest in a long line of great discoveries made by Schoen.
He was only in his early 30s and yet had already made advances in the
world of superconductors and lasers.
His name had become so prominent in the scientific journals that to
many of his rivals he had taken on legendary status.
Professor Jeremy Baumberg, from Southampton University, UK, told
Horizon: "This was the new level of science that you had to match
yourself up against, and everybody knew they couldn't, they couldn't
meet that.
"It was like competing against a god really." But his transistor work
had surpassed everything he had done before.
Growing doubts
What he had apparently achieved was a way of connecting up dye-like
molecules in a transistor circuit. When the circuit was switched on,
they found it had the same characteristics as a silicon transistor.
It was a double breakthrough. Schoen's transistor was not just very
small, it was made from simple organic molecules.
He had beaten a huge raft of teams around the world to the discovery
of the first non-silicon-based transistor. One rival, Paul McEuen, at
Cornell University, was amazed.
"It was really stunning to those of us who'd been toiling away long
and hard to try to make these kind of things work. It just blew us out
of the water."
Once it was published, there were those who speculated it could be the
first step in a journey that could lead to the death of the silicon
chip industry.
It promised incredibly cheap computer chips that did not need to be
manufactured in hugely expensive fabrication plants, but instead could
be custom-built, at a fraction of the cost, in simple laboratories.
But during the excitement surrounding this discovery, there were those
who had doubts about the veracity of the science.
Many of Hendrik Schoen's fantastic claims just could not be repeated
in the lab by rival scientists, and many were getting frustrated. It
had got to the point where there were serious whisperings about his
credibility.
No chance
One of those who had heard the rumours was Professor Lydia Sohn, now
working at the University of California at Berkeley, but even she was
surprised when after getting into work one morning she found a message
on her answerphone. "It said: 'Lydia, this is your homework, look at
these two papers by Hendrik'."
The two papers described Schoen's transistor work, but crucially they
told of two completely different experiments.
After reading and rereading the journals, Sohn found that the two
papers contained graphs that were exactly the same. Her colleague Paul
McEuen believed that the chance of these two separate experiments
giving the same results was "basically zero".
Further analysis of his papers going back through previous years
provided more evidence of suspicious data.
Schoen's employers, Bell Laboratories, instantly launched an
independent investigation into his conduct and the verdict was
damning.
After its findings were released, Bell fired Schoen. Nature, the
journal which had published much of his work, retracted the suspect
papers triggering a huge amount of soul searching in the scientific
community.
The hunt for a single molecular transistor to rival silicon goes on.
Horizon's The Dark Secret of Hendrik Schoen is broadcast on BBC Two at
2100 GMT on Thursday 5 February.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/3459769.stm
Published: 2004/02/04 16:54:11 GMT
© BBC MMIV
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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08 Feb 2004 11:58:58 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Maverick" |
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08 Feb 2004 12:50:50 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:p9ydnVmffaFr5bvd4p2dnA@io.com:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
Indeed! But I wonder why a scientist would do something like this, being a
scientist he should know how the science works, and that the errors would
be found.
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| User: "Phillip Brown" |
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08 Feb 2004 06:10:21 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:50:50 +0000, Maverick wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:p9ydnVmffaFr5bvd4p2dnA@io.com:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
Indeed! But I wonder why a scientist would do something like this, being a
scientist he should know how the science works, and that the errors would
be found.
Probably for the same reasons elite athletes take performance enhancing
drugs.
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phillip brown
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Feb 2004 09:16:58 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:50:50 GMT, Maverick
<insensitive_clod@hotmail.com>, Message ID:
<Xns9489C994D54F7insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100> wrote in
alt.atheism;
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:p9ydnVmffaFr5bvd4p2dnA@io.com:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
Indeed! But I wonder why a scientist would do something like this, being a
scientist he should know how the science works, and that the errors would
be found.
Ego and insecurity can be a powerful motivator.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Richard" |
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16 Feb 2004 01:19:53 AM |
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stoney wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:50:50 GMT, Maverick
<insensitive_clod@hotmail.com>, Message ID:
<Xns9489C994D54F7insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100> wrote in
alt.atheism;
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:p9ydnVmffaFr5bvd4p2dnA@io.com:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
Indeed! But I wonder why a scientist would do something like this, being a
scientist he should know how the science works, and that the errors would
be found.
Ego and insecurity can be a powerful motivator.
The damning report mentioned in the posted story didn't just demolish
his fraudulent claims, it made one wonder how in hell he was allowed
to get away with it for so long. Indeed, having seen the report,
I was astonished just how blatantly bogus some of his results actually
were. Sadly, from what I've heard, it seems that since his results
were of a particularly exciting nature, and he happened to work at the
prestigious Bell Labs with well known colleagues, the editors of
the big-time scientific journals, like "Science" and "Nature", were
giving him a free pass, publishing his work over the objections of
the scientists who gave his questionable papers negative referee
reports. That his work was being spotted as bogus during the normal
refereeing process but being published anyway was to me as much of
a scandal as anything else.
Here's the URL for the Schoen report for anyone interested in taking
a look:
http://www.lucent.com/news_events/pdf/researchreview.pdf
Richard
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| User: "stoney" |
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16 Feb 2004 03:47:04 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 00:19:53 -0700, Richard <richard@nospam.edu>,
Message ID: <38_Xb.35229$EW.16722@okepread02> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:50:50 GMT, Maverick
<insensitive_clod@hotmail.com>, Message ID:
<Xns9489C994D54F7insensitiveclodhotma@192.71.180.100> wrote in
alt.atheism;
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:p9ydnVmffaFr5bvd4p2dnA@io.com:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
Indeed! But I wonder why a scientist would do something like this, being a
scientist he should know how the science works, and that the errors would
be found.
Ego and insecurity can be a powerful motivator.
The damning report mentioned in the posted story didn't just demolish
his fraudulent claims, it made one wonder how in hell he was allowed
to get away with it for so long. Indeed, having seen the report,
I was astonished just how blatantly bogus some of his results actually
were. Sadly, from what I've heard, it seems that since his results
were of a particularly exciting nature, and he happened to work at the
prestigious Bell Labs with well known colleagues, the editors of
the big-time scientific journals, like "Science" and "Nature", were
giving him a free pass, publishing his work over the objections of
the scientists who gave his questionable papers negative referee
reports. That his work was being spotted as bogus during the normal
refereeing process but being published anyway was to me as much of
a scandal as anything else.
Here's the URL for the Schoen report for anyone interested in taking
a look:
http://www.lucent.com/news_events/pdf/researchreview.pdf
Thank you for the url, Richard. I read part of it.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "DJ Nozem" |
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08 Feb 2004 06:01:25 PM |
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 11:58:58 -0600, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
(and another repost...)
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com...
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Fascinating story. And a wonderful example of exactly how science is
self-correcting.
Hell, even the Roman Catholic Church is self-correcting. Only, instead
of the four years that it took the scientific community in this case,
it takes them about four hundred years to pull that feat.
I remember reading a column in the newspaper on this story a few years
ago. IIRC, the guy even claimed that eventually, the data would turn
out to follow his fabrications. A clear case of fundamentalism. I
absolutely love the BBC for making a documentary about it.
The fact that this Schoen character managed to fabricate data and get
away with for four years is _not_ a positive comment on the state of
science today, whichever way you try to put it. A lot of money has
been wasted due to lack of control in the laboratory and lack of
control by peers. Eventually, as the article by Schoen was exposed
because he overplayed his hand and had made a beginner's mistake with
copying a graph.
In other words, his exposure was a case of detective work as much as
it was science. I hope the Schoen fraud isn't thought of as just a
very unfortunate incident by scientists, there are bound to be some
larger problems that have enabled it and continue to enable some
scientists who have lost contact with reality to mess with their data
and get away with it.
--
We give meaning to each other
DJ Nozem aa#1465
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| User: "johac" |
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09 Feb 2004 12:45:51 AM |
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In article <mqtc20hjmqcq7ki100lj978g0gjlcblv2l@4ax.com>,
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
Nano-scientist's dark secret
By Nick Green
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
In 2001, a team led by Hendrik Schoen appeared to have invented the
smallest organic transistor ever made.
Only a single molecule in length, it was hailed as a huge
breakthrough, capable of transforming the world of computers.
But, as BBC Two's Horizon programme shows this week, the
"breakthrough" led to his disgrace and began a cascade of events that
would result in one of the most intriguing science stories of recent
years.
When he published his work, Schoen's tiny transistor was regarded as a
discovery that could have blasted open the world of nanotechnology -
where cheap, powerful computers could transform the world in which we
live.
Stuff of legend
Transistors are the minute "switches" that control the flow of
information in a computer chip. The more you can fit on to a chip, the
more powerful your computer.
Schoen's transistor was far smaller than anything possible on a
silicon chip, so it seemed to herald a new age when computer power
could grow to undreamed of levels.
It was the latest in a long line of great discoveries made by Schoen.
He was only in his early 30s and yet had already made advances in the
world of superconductors and lasers.
His name had become so prominent in the scientific journals that to
many of his rivals he had taken on legendary status.
Professor Jeremy Baumberg, from Southampton University, UK, told
Horizon: "This was the new level of science that you had to match
yourself up against, and everybody knew they couldn't, they couldn't
meet that.
"It was like competing against a god really." But his transistor work
had surpassed everything he had done before.
Growing doubts
What he had apparently achieved was a way of connecting up dye-like
molecules in a transistor circuit. When the circuit was switched on,
they found it had the same characteristics as a silicon transistor.
It was a double breakthrough. Schoen's transistor was not just very
small, it was made from simple organic molecules.
He had beaten a huge raft of teams around the world to the discovery
of the first non-silicon-based transistor. One rival, Paul McEuen, at
Cornell University, was amazed.
"It was really stunning to those of us who'd been toiling away long
and hard to try to make these kind of things work. It just blew us out
of the water."
Once it was published, there were those who speculated it could be the
first step in a journey that could lead to the death of the silicon
chip industry.
It promised incredibly cheap computer chips that did not need to be
manufactured in hugely expensive fabrication plants, but instead could
be custom-built, at a fraction of the cost, in simple laboratories.
But during the excitement surrounding this discovery, there were those
who had doubts about the veracity of the science.
Many of Hendrik Schoen's fantastic claims just could not be repeated
in the lab by rival scientists, and many were getting frustrated. It
had got to the point where there were serious whisperings about his
credibility.
No chance
One of those who had heard the rumours was Professor Lydia Sohn, now
working at the University of California at Berkeley, but even she was
surprised when after getting into work one morning she found a message
on her answerphone. "It said: 'Lydia, this is your homework, look at
these two papers by Hendrik'."
The two papers described Schoen's transistor work, but crucially they
told of two completely different experiments.
After reading and rereading the journals, Sohn found that the two
papers contained graphs that were exactly the same. Her colleague Paul
McEuen believed that the chance of these two separate experiments
giving the same results was "basically zero".
Further analysis of his papers going back through previous years
provided more evidence of suspicious data.
Schoen's employers, Bell Laboratories, instantly launched an
independent investigation into his conduct and the verdict was
damning.
After its findings were released, Bell fired Schoen. Nature, the
journal which had published much of his work, retracted the suspect
papers triggering a huge amount of soul searching in the scientific
community.
The hunt for a single molecular transistor to rival silicon goes on.
Horizon's The Dark Secret of Hendrik Schoen is broadcast on BBC Two at
2100 GMT on Thursday 5 February.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/sci/tech/3459769.stm
Published: 2004/02/04 16:54:11 GMT
© BBC MMIV
Nice article. It shows how science polices itself. More than I can say
for creationists and the ID people.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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09 Feb 2004 12:06:35 AM |
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One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
The case has been resolved more satisfactorily than the Bruce Hall
case at the UNSW.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s1036825.htm
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| User: "raven1" |
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08 Feb 2004 12:58:49 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:53:29 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
This, of course, is proof that an invisible sky pixie magicked the
world into existence 6000 years ago!
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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08 Feb 2004 01:54:05 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 18:58:49 GMT in alt.atheism, raven1 (raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 17:53:29 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
One of the most brilliant scientific researchers of recent years
stands accused of committing an elaborate scientific fraud, fooling
many eminent experts.
This, of course, is proof that an invisible sky pixie magicked the
world into existence 6000 years ago!
Well, I was convinced, especially since his fraud was spotted by all
those creation scientists...
More seriously though, though the Horizon programme harped on a good
deal about what might have been possible had his work been legit, it
was an excellent example of how the scientific community polices
itself. The transcript is worth a read.
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
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