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Date: 15 Aug 2007 07:18:26 PM
Object: OT Andy Kaufman fans
First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU
atheist@home#1554
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 15 Aug 2007 09:47:59 PM
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,
wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU

An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 03:26:44 AM
"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,

wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).

I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a terrible comedian :P
--
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BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: "Mike Smith"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 03:42:52 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a
terrible comedian :P

He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 08:14:01 PM
"Mike Smith" <mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a
terrible comedian :P


He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.

Well, whatever he was, I didn't find him funny.
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User: "Mike Smith"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 09:37:31 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.


Well, whatever he was, I didn't find him funny.

I don't want to argue with you and try to say he
was funny, but think "performance artist". Funny
wasn't always the goal.
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 03:29:35 AM
"Mike Smith" <mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.


Well, whatever he was, I didn't find him funny.


I don't want to argue with you and try to say he
was funny, but think "performance artist". Funny
wasn't always the goal.

LOL. Well, if he wasn't trying to be funny, then he was spot on :)
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 08:03:19 PM
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Smith
<mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a
terrible comedian :P


He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.

His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because of it.
atheist@home#1554

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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 08:15:27 PM
<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Smith
<mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a
terrible comedian :P


He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.


His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because of it.

He got booed off the stage when he did it at the University of Florida in
the O'Connell Center.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 06:24:21 AM
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:15:27 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


<atheist@home.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:42:52 -0500, Mike Smith
<mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a
terrible comedian :P


He would've told you he wasn't a comedian.
I think he liked playing with perceptions, as
opposed to telling jokes or doing impressions.


His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because of it.


He got booed off the stage when he did it at the University of Florida in
the O'Connell Center.

He got booed on other occasions as well.
I can watch the videos in which in a seemingly mean spirited way he
introduces soap and toilet tissue to southerners and says he's going
to teach us to use them while claiming that we don't brush our teeth
and so on and feel myself getting angry about it.
He touches on several stereotypes of southerners.
In the same videos there are interviews with Memphians, some of whom
fit the stereotypes perfectly.
One fellow for instance complains about the things said including the
claim that we don't brush our teeth and the man didn't have all his
teeth.
One man is shown leaving an outdoor toilet which we don't have down
here anymore except in very rural areas and even then they are the
exception.
He manipulated the crowd at a wrestling match, which wasn't difficult
to do of course, and they behaved in the embarrassingly Jerry Springer
Show fashion of uneducated hicks as they are prone to do which is a
thing that shames many of us.
But he was at the same time making fun of Hollywood and the elitist
attitude of many there and some people missed it.
It was all very cynical and the type of thing that pretty much made
him unemployable in Hollywood.
atheist@home#1554
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User: "Mike Smith"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 09:36:02 PM
wrote:

His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because
of it.

I remember him standing by a dorky little record
player, waiting through the Mighty Mouse theme
song for the line "Here I come to save the day!"
Bizarre. Usually I couldn't take my eyes off him,
except for maybe a few Taxi episodes. I think
playing Latka got to be a chore for him.
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 03:31:54 AM
"Mike Smith" <mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote in message
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atheist@home.com wrote:

His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because
of it.


I remember him standing by a dorky little record
player, waiting through the Mighty Mouse theme
song for the line "Here I come to save the day!"
Bizarre. Usually I couldn't take my eyes off him,
except for maybe a few Taxi episodes. I think
playing Latka got to be a chore for him.

I used to watch that show "Fridays" way back when and remember seeing the
show where Andy was on and the cast completely lost their patience with him.
Think it might have been Michael Richards who went and got the cue cards and
threw them on the table in front of Andy in disgust. I was like "Wait. Is
this part of the show?"
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 07:52:20 AM
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:31:54 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"Mike Smith" <mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote in message
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atheist@home.com wrote:

His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because
of it.


I remember him standing by a dorky little record
player, waiting through the Mighty Mouse theme
song for the line "Here I come to save the day!"
Bizarre. Usually I couldn't take my eyes off him,
except for maybe a few Taxi episodes. I think
playing Latka got to be a chore for him.


I used to watch that show "Fridays" way back when and remember seeing the
show where Andy was on and the cast completely lost their patience with him.
Think it might have been Michael Richards who went and got the cue cards and
threw them on the table in front of Andy in disgust. I was like "Wait. Is
this part of the show?"

I think Richards along with one of the female cast members picked up
on what he was doing and played along.
<People still debate it>
Of course Kaufman milked it for all it was worth in a later apology,
irritating the hell out of the audience while making them laugh at the
same time and then coming back unshaven and distraught looking
claiming the stunt had ruined his career.
He liked to confuse people and make them wonder if what he was doing
was a joke or real.
He was a pretty offbeat, eccentric character and that's what many of
us loved about him.
atheist@home#1554
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 07:38:25 AM
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:36:02 -0500, Mike Smith
<mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote:

atheist@home.com wrote:

His whole wrestling stunt still amazes me.
A lot of people in Memphis hated him because
of it.


I remember him standing by a dorky little record
player, waiting through the Mighty Mouse theme
song for the line "Here I come to save the day!"
Bizarre. Usually I couldn't take my eyes off him,
except for maybe a few Taxi episodes.

One of my favorites is the one in which he is doing Old McDonald using
the record player and had several members from the audience come up
and participate.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TSHDNnGu4c4
His Pop Goes the Weasel was absolutely hilarious.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bbawD6DVtrg

I think playing Latka got to be a chore for him.

He enjoyed it at first but got irritated at having to do it every
week.
When Latka did his clumsy, very unfunny stand up routine and then his
Elvis impersonation it was a work of art.
I still remember the first time I saw it and thanks to Youtube I can
now watch it as much as I like.
atheist@home#1554
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 05:47:29 PM
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:26:44 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,

wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).


I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a terrible comedian :P

He could be terribly boring sometimes but it was his strange way of
doing things that made people wonder if he was serious or not that
many appreciate.
He could make an audience very uncomfortable and did it on purpose.
I honestly didn't know his rude and mean spirited character Tony
Clifton was actually Kaufman at first and neither did many of the
people who knew him.
Clifton made people angry and apparently that was a part of the fun
for Kaufman.
atheist@home#1554
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 08:14:51 PM
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> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:26:44 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,

wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).


I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a terrible comedian :P


He could be terribly boring sometimes but it was his strange way of
doing things that made people wonder if he was serious or not that
many appreciate.
He could make an audience very uncomfortable and did it on purpose.
I honestly didn't know his rude and mean spirited character Tony
Clifton was actually Kaufman at first and neither did many of the
people who knew him.
Clifton made people angry and apparently that was a part of the fun
for Kaufman.

I guess. I never found him funny and thought he was a bit of an *****.
Though I did like Latka on Taxi.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 08:01:12 AM
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:14:51 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


<

> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:26:44 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,

wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).


I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a terrible comedian :P


He could be terribly boring sometimes but it was his strange way of
doing things that made people wonder if he was serious or not that
many appreciate.
He could make an audience very uncomfortable and did it on purpose.
I honestly didn't know his rude and mean spirited character Tony
Clifton was actually Kaufman at first and neither did many of the
people who knew him.
Clifton made people angry and apparently that was a part of the fun
for Kaufman.


I guess. I never found him funny and thought he was a bit of an *****.

Though I did like Latka on Taxi.

When the producers decided that his Tony Clifton character had to be
cut from the cast he was in costume as Clifton and refused to leave
the set.
In other words he stayed in character confusing everybody there who
didn't know what to do.
They felt they weren't dealing with Kaufman but rather the "real"
Clifton.
And he could play the jerk and then in the next breath the simple
decent guy who was confused about why people reacted in the way that
they did.
He's difficult to explain :-)
atheist@home#1554
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 17 Aug 2007 09:41:16 AM
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:14:51 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:26:44 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,

wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).


I'm sorry he died of cancer, but I thought he was a terrible comedian :P


He could be terribly boring sometimes but it was his strange way of
doing things that made people wonder if he was serious or not that
many appreciate.
He could make an audience very uncomfortable and did it on purpose.
I honestly didn't know his rude and mean spirited character Tony
Clifton was actually Kaufman at first and neither did many of the
people who knew him.
Clifton made people angry and apparently that was a part of the fun
for Kaufman.


I guess. I never found him funny and thought he was a bit of an *****.

Though I did like Latka on Taxi.


When the producers decided that his Tony Clifton character had to be
cut from the cast he was in costume as Clifton and refused to leave
the set.
In other words he stayed in character confusing everybody there who
didn't know what to do.
They felt they weren't dealing with Kaufman but rather the "real"
Clifton.
And he could play the jerk and then in the next breath the simple
decent guy who was confused about why people reacted in the way that
they did.
He's difficult to explain :-)

I guess.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 16 Aug 2007 05:40:55 PM
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:47:59 -0400, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:18:26 -0500,

wrote:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


An absolute classic. One of the most brilliant comics in history,
whose life was cut short in a brutally ironic fashion that Andy
himself would have applauded (a never-smoker and health food devotee
brought down at 35 by lung cancer).

Many people thought his illness and death was another Kaufman stunt.
And people are still debating as to whether or not anyone in the cast
or crew of Fridays was in on the stunt he pulled screwing up a skit.
Strange man.
atheist@home#1554
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 15 Aug 2007 08:47:02 PM
One fine day in alt.atheism,
bloodied us up with this:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


atheist@home#1554

We all have to start somewhere. That was great!
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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User: ""

Title: Re: OT Andy Kaufman fans 15 Aug 2007 10:09:16 PM
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:47:02 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:

One fine day in alt.atheism,

bloodied us up with this:

First time I've seen this.
Kaufman was on the Dating Game before he got famous and everybody
bought into his act.
Typical Kaufman <If there was such a thing>
I nearly fell out of my chair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ALZz3vlIZiU


atheist@home#1554


We all have to start somewhere. That was great!

I would love to see how they introduced him.
And the end.
Some people think it was a fix but imo if it was, it was Andy who did
the fixing.
Sometimes I would see a skit and not get it until the next morning and
wake up laughing my arse off.
Once after a show he had buses lined up outside the studio and took
the entire audience and staff for cookies and milk.
It was beautiful.
He was absolutely one of a kind and I miss him.
atheist@home#1554
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