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"maff" |
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16 Aug 2004 01:09:39 PM |
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OT: Ann Coulter |
Ann Coulter: The blonde assassin
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/story.jsp?story=551959
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says? To the
pin-up pundit of the American right, liberals are fascists - and all
terrorists are Muslims. Sholto Byrnes runs for cover
16 August 2004
Meet Ann Coulter. In her opinion, "liberals are racists", the French
are "a bunch of faggots", only property owners should be allowed to
vote, and anyone who disagrees with her is a "fatuous idiot" or
"evil". In liberal Europe, such propositions are seldom aired, even in
the most right-wing salons. In America, however, Coulter - blonde,
fortysomething - is a regular guest commentator on news and talk shows
such as Good Morning America, Hannity and Colmes, At Large with
Geraldo Rivera and The O'Reilly Factor.
Her brand of breathtakingly audacious invective has made her a heroine
of US conservatives and propelled her three books - Treason: Liberal
Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism; Slander: Liberal
Lies about the American Right; and High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The
Case Against Bill Clinton - on to the New York Times bestseller lists.
She is thought to be the inspiration for Ainsley Hayes, an extremely
right-wing Republican lawyer in The West Wing.
Ann Coulter
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22Ann+Coulter%22&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22Ann+Coulter%22&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+%22Ann+Coulter%22&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=Ann%20Coulter&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Ann Coulter |
16 Aug 2004 10:28:42 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Jack Tar" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Ann Coulter |
18 Aug 2004 11:29:07 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe
that the *scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie
Dearest can't actually believe all of what she says. However,
she *means* it (IMO) in the sense that she is totally
malicious and says these things to get her way because she
knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Ann Coulter |
18 Aug 2004 06:05:13 PM |
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(Jack Tar) wrote in
news:43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for
her screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe
that the *scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie
Dearest can't actually believe all of what she says. However,
she *means* it (IMO) in the sense that she is totally
malicious and says these things to get her way because she
knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
....and an older one:
http://www.salon.com/media/feature/1999/06/25/coulter/print.html
"Ann of a Thousand Lays"
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
The Fundamentalist
== Knows no greater joy than the sound of his own voice.
== Knows no greater terror than the god he creates in his own image.
== Knows no greater evil than an unfettered mind.
== Knows no greater blasphemy than being told "NO."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Aug 2004 05:51:29 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:05:13 +0000 in episode
<Xns9549B8225CDE5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in
news:43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe that the
*scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie Dearest can't actually
believe all of what she says. However, she *means* it (IMO) in the sense
that she is totally malicious and says these things to get her way
because she knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
...and an older one:
http://www.salon.com/media/feature/1999/06/25/coulter/print.html
"Ann of a Thousand Lays"
Speaking of Coulter, this one's pretty good...
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/346210
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Ann Coulter |
19 Aug 2004 06:29:16 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Soydndipdqhts7jcRVn-tw@megapath.net:
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:05:13 +0000 in episode
<Xns9549B8225CDE5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in
news:43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for
her screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe that the
*scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie Dearest can't
actually believe all of what she says. However, she *means* it (IMO)
in the sense that she is totally malicious and says these things to
get her way because she knows that by and large she can get away
with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
...and an older one:
http://www.salon.com/media/feature/1999/06/25/coulter/print.html
"Ann of a Thousand Lays"
Speaking of Coulter, this one's pretty good...
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/346210
I'll see your Coulter and raise you a Chimp:
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/347073
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
The Fundamentalist
== Knows no greater joy than the sound of his own voice.
== Knows no greater terror than the god he creates in his own image.
== Knows no greater evil than an unfettered mind.
== Knows no greater blasphemy than being told "NO."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Aug 2004 07:23:58 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:29:16 +0000 in episode
<Xns954ABC27F2694askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Soydndipdqhts7jcRVn-tw@megapath.net:
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:05:13 +0000 in episode
<Xns9549B8225CDE5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in
news:43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for
her screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe that the
*scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie Dearest can't actually
believe all of what she says. However, she *means* it (IMO) in the
sense that she is totally malicious and says these things to get her
way because she knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
...and an older one:
http://www.salon.com/media/feature/1999/06/25/coulter/print.html
"Ann of a Thousand Lays"
Speaking of Coulter, this one's pretty good...
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/346210
I'll see your Coulter and raise you a Chimp:
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/347073
I'm kind of fond of this one...
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers.12723730
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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19 Aug 2004 06:46:55 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:Soydndipdqhts7jcRVn-tw@megapath.net...
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:05:13 +0000 in episode
<Xns9549B8225CDE5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in
news:43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for
her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe that the
*scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie Dearest can't actually
believe all of what she says. However, she *means* it (IMO) in the
sense
that she is totally malicious and says these things to get her way
because she knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
...and an older one:
http://www.salon.com/media/feature/1999/06/25/coulter/print.html
"Ann of a Thousand Lays"
Speaking of Coulter, this one's pretty good...
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/346210
SNARK!! Oh MY! :)
--
__________
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Aug 2004 07:22:59 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 19:46:55 -0400 in episode
<2oksffFbvj15U1@uni-berlin.de> we saw our hero "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:Soydndipdqhts7jcRVn-tw@megapath.net...
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:05:13 +0000 in episode
<Xns9549B8225CDE5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> we saw our hero Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>:
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in
news:43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for
her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe that the
*scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie Dearest can't actually
believe all of what she says. However, she *means* it (IMO) in the
sense
that she is totally malicious and says these things to get her way
because she knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
E J L
...and an older one:
http://www.salon.com/media/feature/1999/06/25/coulter/print.html
"Ann of a Thousand Lays"
Speaking of Coulter, this one's pretty good...
http://www.cafepress.com/bettybowers/346210
SNARK!! Oh MY! :)
Uh huh. <G>
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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19 Aug 2004 03:35:44 PM |
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(Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com>...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe
that the *scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie
Dearest can't actually believe all of what she says. However,
she *means* it (IMO) in the sense that she is totally
malicious and says these things to get her way because she
knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
Ugh. I can't stand Coulter but this article put a bad taste in my
mouth. It struck me as being just the sort of below-the-belt attack
that she, herself, might write.
--
Andrew Lias
http://andrewlias.blogspot.com
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| User: "Jack Tar" |
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20 Aug 2004 08:58:00 AM |
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(Andrew Lias) wrote in message news:<ffc8a152.0408191235.6385f104@posting.google.com>...
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com>...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe
that the *scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie
Dearest can't actually believe all of what she says. However,
she *means* it (IMO) in the sense that she is totally
malicious and says these things to get her way because she
knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
Ugh. I can't stand Coulter but this article put a bad taste in my
mouth. It struck me as being just the sort of below-the-belt attack
that she, herself, might write.
Gawd *forbid* that anyone cut too close to the bone when
dealing with conservatives. Good little boys and girls are
*always* 'responsible' and 'even-handed' when dealing with
conservatives because they *know* that the proper response to
bad words is *good* words.
That sort of thinking is a large part of why the USA is
in such a hideous mess.
E J L
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Ann Coulter |
20 Aug 2004 06:56:22 PM |
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(Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408200557.7d23edae@posting.google.com>...
anrwlias@gmail.com (Andrew Lias) wrote in message news:<ffc8a152.0408191235.6385f104@posting.google.com>...
(Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com>...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe
that the *scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie
Dearest can't actually believe all of what she says. However,
she *means* it (IMO) in the sense that she is totally
malicious and says these things to get her way because she
knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
Ugh. I can't stand Coulter but this article put a bad taste in my
mouth. It struck me as being just the sort of below-the-belt attack
that she, herself, might write.
Gawd *forbid* that anyone cut too close to the bone when
dealing with conservatives.
I have nothing against a sharp wit. I have much against greasy
insinuations and low attempts at character assassination.
Good little boys and girls are
*always* 'responsible' and 'even-handed' when dealing with
conservatives because they *know* that the proper response to
bad words is *good* words.
If you're suggesting that we should sink to the level of barely veiled
slander and left-handed character assassination on the justification
that someone else is doing so to us, then I'm going to say that I
consider that kind of race to the lowest common denominator to be the
sort of bad idea that most people shouldn't have left behind in the
third grade.
If you feel, however, that it's a good idea to wallow in the muck that
your opponents are slinging, be my guest. Just don't expect me to be
impressed when you complain that *they* are using dirty tactics if
your own tactics are indistinguishable from theirs.
That sort of thinking is a large part of why the USA is
in such a hideous mess.
I'm rather doubtful that the problems facing this country are caused
by anyone exercising a sense of rhetorical forebearance. I would
further say that if that if that is the source of all our ills, we're
rather more fragile of a country than I had thought.
--
Andrew Lias
http://andrewlias.blogspot.com
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| User: "Jack Tar" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Ann Coulter |
25 Aug 2004 01:25:48 PM |
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(Andrew Lias) wrote in message news:<ffc8a152.0408201556.18519545@posting.google.com>...
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408200557.7d23edae@posting.google.com>...
(Andrew Lias) wrote in message news:<ffc8a152.0408191235.6385f104@posting.google.com>...
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com>...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for her
screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe
that the *scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie
Dearest can't actually believe all of what she says. However,
she *means* it (IMO) in the sense that she is totally
malicious and says these things to get her way because she
knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
Ugh. I can't stand Coulter but this article put a bad taste in my
mouth. It struck me as being just the sort of below-the-belt attack
that she, herself, might write.
Gawd *forbid* that anyone cut too close to the bone when
dealing with conservatives.
I have nothing against a sharp wit. I have much against greasy
insinuations and low attempts at character assassination.
Good little boys and girls are
*always* 'responsible' and 'even-handed' when dealing with
conservatives because they *know* that the proper response to
bad words is *good* words.
If you're suggesting that we should sink to the level of barely veiled
slander and left-handed character assassination on the justification
that someone else is doing so to us, then I'm going to say that I
consider that kind of race to the lowest common denominator to be the
sort of bad idea that most people shouldn't have left behind in the
third grade.
If you feel, however, that it's a good idea to wallow in the muck that
your opponents are slinging, be my guest. Just don't expect me to be
impressed when you complain that *they* are using dirty tactics if
your own tactics are indistinguishable from theirs.
That sort of thinking is a large part of why the USA is
in such a hideous mess.
I'm rather doubtful that the problems facing this country are caused
by anyone exercising a sense of rhetorical forebearance. I would
further say that if that if that is the source of all our ills, we're
rather more fragile of a country than I had thought.
I realized years ago that most avowed or reputed liberals or
moderates were phonies, masochists, or moral cowards (or a
combination of the three). So many of them would seemingly prefer
to live in their little ivory towers of righteous virtue rather
than actually do something about the infestation of conservative
political/religious smut peddlers. There is a vast army of
conservatives who are allowed, to a greater and greater extent,
to lie at will and to spread malicious misinformation unchecked.
Ann Coulter is by no means an isolated phenomenon. And yet, somehow
it is increasingly considered heinous to identify *conservative*
liars as liars and bigots as bigots. Those who attempt to deal
bluntly with conservative depredations are increasingly met with
horrified sanctimonious recriminations.
I did not expect for a moment that what I posted about Coulter
would meet with unqualified approval in alt.atheism. I am well aware
of the presence of a great many conservative and (ahem) conservative-
friendly posters in alt.atheism. That was one of the reasons I
eventually insisted that my name be removed from the "atheists" list
(In point of fact, I do not identify as an "atheist"--I try to avoid
-isms--but as completely non-religious). I pretty much realized the
game was up (so to speak) when an poster was allowed to assert,
without presenting any verifiable evidence, and without any dissent
from anyone other than me, that the editorial pages of the Wall
Street Journal have no influence.
So, Mr. Lias, you will no doubt be relieved to know that I
won't be disturbing your equanimity often. I have other things to
do.
E J L
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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25 Aug 2004 10:19:37 PM |
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anrwlias@gmail.com (Andrew Lias) wrote in message news:<ffc8a152.0408201556.18519545@posting.google.com>...
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in message news:<43c7477f.0408200557.7d23edae@posting.google.com>...
anrwlias@gmail.com (Andrew Lias) wrote in message news:<ffc8a152.0408191235.6385f104@posting.google.com>...
Ugh. I can't stand Coulter but this article put a bad taste in my
mouth. It struck me as being just the sort of below-the-belt attack
that she, herself, might write.
It's much nicer than that.
Gawd *forbid* that anyone cut too close to the bone when
dealing with conservatives.
I have nothing against a sharp wit. I have much against greasy
insinuations and low attempts at character assassination.
Looks to me like Coulter was treated by the writer of that article almost
as badly as she deserves, and not nearly as bad as she treats others. The
woman is a hate-filled, malicious and incredibly cruel *****. To imply
that she deserves any sort of leniency is to imply that Hitler suffered
unjust defeats at the hands of the allies. I don't normally go for
bringing Hitler into a conversation out of spite, however, I fully believe
that she is exactly as hateful, and would be exactly as damaging if she
were nearly as powerful.
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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25 Aug 2004 09:12:02 PM |
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Ann Coulter is by no means an isolated phenomenon. And yet, somehow
it is increasingly considered heinous to identify *conservative*
liars as liars and bigots as bigots. Those who attempt to deal
bluntly with conservative depredations are increasingly met with
horrified sanctimonious recriminations.
I think one of the mistakes that you made was that you identified Coulter as a
"conservative." There are few people of public prominence in America who are so
openly hostile to conservative ideology as Coulter is who aren't already part
of the Bush administration.
Conservatives believe in smaller government with limited powers checked by the
constitutional balance of powers. Coulter believes in absolutist government and
the elimination of constitutional checks and balances. Conservatives are
hard-core isolationists. Coulter is a hard-core interventionist. Conservatives,
like Goldwater, believe in governmental neutrality in regards to religion.
Coulter is a doctrinaire Christian supremacist and is very close to many of the
key figures in the Reconstructionist movement who have obviously strongly
influenced her thinking. Conservatives believe that the individuals concerned
are the final arbiters of their right to marry or reproduce. Coulter believe
that the State is the final arbiter in these matters with no recourse left to
the people.
Her views are closer to that of a Communist than that of a conservative, as are
most of the rest of the anti-American neo-conservative cabal who have usurped
the term "conservative" and applied it to their brand of totalitarianism.
Calling her a conservative is simply a gross misstatement of fact.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Aug 2004 10:29:32 AM |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:58:00 -0700 in episode
<43c7477f.0408200557.7d23edae@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar):
anrwlias@gmail.com (Andrew Lias) wrote in message
news:<ffc8a152.0408191235.6385f104@posting.google.com>...
Vandals_R_Us@antisocial.com (Jack Tar) wrote in message
news:<43c7477f.0408180829.76cadc74@posting.google.com>...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:<wbudnThDx8r15rzcRVn-vw@megapath.net>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:09:39 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0408161009.3fdba92c@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Does Ann Coulter really believe the outrageous things she says?
Nah. She believes it's hysterically funny people give her money for
her screeds and laughs all the way to the bank...
If you mean she's only in it for the money, I strongly
disagree. Just as most Creationists can't actually believe that the
*scientific* evidence supports Creation, Annie Dearest can't actually
believe all of what she says. However, she *means* it (IMO) in the
sense that she is totally malicious and says these things to get her
way because she knows that by and large she can get away with them.
Here is a recent URL about her:
http://www.counterbias.com/090.html
Ugh. I can't stand Coulter but this article put a bad taste in my
mouth. It struck me as being just the sort of below-the-belt attack
that she, herself, might write.
Gawd *forbid* that anyone cut too close to the bone when
dealing with conservatives. Good little boys and girls are *always*
'responsible' and 'even-handed' when dealing with conservatives because
they *know* that the proper response to bad words is *good* words.
That sort of thinking is a large part of why the USA is
in such a hideous mess.
I don't know. I have a problem with a *country in which the side that's
bending over backwards to be fair is the one taking the beating.
Says something about us...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "GlennGlenn" |
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16 Aug 2004 06:51:51 PM |
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maff wrote:
Ann Coulter: The blonde assassin
An assassin with a watergun full of diluted lemon juice, to be more
precise. She gets TV jobs due to the fact that's it's cheaper to
produce stone-headed whine-and-shout, accuse-and-dissemble talking-head
featurettes in the place of investigative journalism pieces.
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/story.jsp?story=551959
<snip>
She is thought to be the inspiration for Ainsley Hayes, an extremely
right-wing Republican lawyer in The West Wing.
And yet the creators of The West Wing accidentally made Hayes seem human
despite this alleged inspiration.
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| User: "Arturo Magidin" |
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16 Aug 2004 06:59:16 PM |
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In article <rMbUc.843$SR4.687@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
GlennGlenn <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
maff wrote:
[.re Ann Coulter.]
She is thought to be the inspiration for Ainsley Hayes, an extremely
right-wing Republican lawyer in The West Wing.
And yet the creators of The West Wing accidentally made Hayes seem human
despite this alleged inspiration.
And the character was not "extremely right-wing". Although right wing,
she was also shown working for a democrat (something an "extremely
right-wing Republican" would choke rather than do), and opposing
government legislation as a whole, including on topics that 'extremely
right-wing' republicans favor; e.g., _The West Wing_'s equivalent of
the federal definition of marriage law.
--
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"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
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Arturo Magidin
magidin@math.berkeley.edu
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| User: "duke" |
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18 Aug 2004 05:15:55 AM |
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:51:51 GMT, GlennGlenn <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
maff wrote:
Ann Coulter: The blonde assassin
An assassin with a watergun full of diluted lemon juice, to be more
precise. She gets TV jobs due to the fact that's it's cheaper to
produce stone-headed whine-and-shout, accuse-and-dissemble talking-head
featurettes in the place of investigative journalism pieces.
She is thought to be the inspiration for Ainsley Hayes, an extremely
right-wing Republican lawyer in The West Wing.
And yet the creators of The West Wing accidentally made Hayes seem human
despite this alleged inspiration.
I love Ann Coulter. You love Michael Moore.
duke
*****
1 Corinthians 4
15Even though you have ten thousand guardians in
Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ
Jesus I became your father through the gospel.
*****
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| User: "Glenn" |
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18 Aug 2004 10:25:09 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<31b6i0hp2u3q4pcjrqe9hcbvhi8s304psj@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:51:51 GMT, GlennGlenn <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
maff wrote:
Ann Coulter: The blonde assassin
An assassin with a watergun full of diluted lemon juice, to be more
precise. She gets TV jobs due to the fact that's it's cheaper to
produce stone-headed whine-and-shout, accuse-and-dissemble talking-head
featurettes in the place of investigative journalism pieces.
She is thought to be the inspiration for Ainsley Hayes, an extremely
right-wing Republican lawyer in The West Wing.
And yet the creators of The West Wing accidentally made Hayes seem human
despite this alleged inspiration.
I love Ann Coulter.
No shock there. Dishonesty and a disregard for facts are
characteristics you both seem to share. Some people find lying *hot*.
I don't.
You love Michael Moore.
I don't. I find him amusing and talented. But I don't love him or
his work.
GlennGlenn
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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18 Aug 2004 11:36:46 AM |
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On 18 Aug 2004 08:25:09 -0700, (Glenn) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<31b6i0hp2u3q4pcjrqe9hcbvhi8s304psj@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:51:51 GMT, GlennGlenn <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
maff wrote:
Ann Coulter: The blonde assassin
An assassin with a watergun full of diluted lemon juice, to be more
precise. She gets TV jobs due to the fact that's it's cheaper to
produce stone-headed whine-and-shout, accuse-and-dissemble talking-head
featurettes in the place of investigative journalism pieces.
She is thought to be the inspiration for Ainsley Hayes, an extremely
right-wing Republican lawyer in The West Wing.
And yet the creators of The West Wing accidentally made Hayes seem human
despite this alleged inspiration.
I love Ann Coulter.
No shock there. Dishonesty and a disregard for facts are
characteristics you both seem to share. Some people find lying *hot*.
I don't.
You love Michael Moore.
I don't. I find him amusing and talented. But I don't love him or
his work.
I heard him on NPR yesterday (Speaker's Corner). He was brilliant.
GlennGlenn
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