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02 Sep 2006 12:22:43 AM |
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OT: Another Bush Success [or: DAMN THOSE LIBRULLS!!] |
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
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| User: "Marc" |
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02 Sep 2006 03:28:25 AM |
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wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were
linked to your meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to
grow my own opium, it is kind of funny that the internet
might be helping in all this.
(signed) marc
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| User: "Dale" |
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02 Sep 2006 12:42:25 PM |
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"Marc" <marcbuhler@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:1157185705.930822.148130@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were
linked to your meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to
grow my own opium, it is kind of funny that the internet
might be helping in all this.
And of course we all know Al Gore invented the Internet.
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| User: "Inez" |
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02 Sep 2006 03:21:40 PM |
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Dale wrote:
"Marc" <marcbuhler@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:1157185705.930822.148130@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were
linked to your meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to
grow my own opium, it is kind of funny that the internet
might be helping in all this.
And of course we all know Al Gore invented the Internet.
Did you know he never actually said that? He did sponsor funding the
creation of the internet, which is what he was talking about when he
was misquoted.
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| User: "Pithecanthropus Erectus" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:32:05 PM |
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Inez wrote:
Dale wrote:
"Marc" <marcbuhler@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:1157185705.930822.148130@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were
linked to your meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to
grow my own opium, it is kind of funny that the internet
might be helping in all this.
And of course we all know Al Gore invented the Internet.
Did you know he never actually said that? He did sponsor funding the
creation of the internet, which is what he was talking about when he
was misquoted.
Yes, but truth doesn't make a good sound bite.
--
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence
from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.
Thomas Paine
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| User: "Desertphile" |
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02 Sep 2006 02:43:17 PM |
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Dale wrote:
"Marc" <marcbuhler@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:1157185705.930822.148130@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were
linked to your meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to
grow my own opium, it is kind of funny that the internet
might be helping in all this.
And of course we all know Al Gore invented the Internet.
No. He invented Manbearpig.
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| User: "Pithecanthropus Erectus" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:30:10 PM |
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Desertphile wrote:
Dale wrote:
"Marc" <marcbuhler@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:1157185705.930822.148130@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were
linked to your meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to
grow my own opium, it is kind of funny that the internet
might be helping in all this.
And of course we all know Al Gore invented the Internet.
No. He invented Manbearpig.
That was a real threat! I took it seriously, anyway.
--
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence
from Jerusalem of a lunatic asylum.
Thomas Paine
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| User: "nmp" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:05:21 PM |
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Op Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:28:25 -0700, schreef Marc:
chris.linthompson@gmail.com wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Chris
The Google / Yahoo / Whatever sidebar ads that were linked to your
meaasge had this ad -
"Related Pages
Opium Poppy Seeds, Papaver Somniferum Seeds, and Opium Poppies at ...
Sells opium poppy seeds, starter kits, books, and other related items.
www.poppies.org "
While I'm not about to click on the link, let alone try to grow my own
opium, it is kind of funny that the internet might be helping in all
this.
Papaver somniferum seeds can be bought in many garden centers. At least
where I live they can, but it is my understanding taht this is the case in
the USA as well. Or you can buy big sacks full of them at bakery
wholesalers. Many people have poppies in their gardens, they do swell in a
claasic flower garden design. They are lovely, colourful flowers, they
attract bees and grow like, well, poppies. Nothing wrong with them, you
just don't want children or pets eating the pods. You would not want them
to eat a *lot* of stuff that casually grows in gardens, by the way.
You can use the dried pods on their long stems in a nice flower bouquet.
Very decorative. Or you can brew a very interesting tea of them...
Afghan farmers are growing poppies because not much else grows there well
enough to support them. It's not to get "big bucks" because they,
themselves, never see much money anyway. So, to imporve their lives, why
not make them the world producers of papaver products? Lots of legitimate
uses for it: medicine, food, garden etc. In case a small minority of
people should want to use these products for other (let's say:
recreational) purposes, I honestly wonder if *that* warrants a global war
on drugs and/or stealing the Afghan farmer's livelihood.
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| User: "Desertphile" |
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02 Sep 2006 09:54:35 AM |
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wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
Godless lib'rals hate a free economy.
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| User: "mcv" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:36:46 AM |
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In talk.origins <> wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
mcv.
--
Science is not the be-all and end-all of human existence. It's a tool.
A very powerful tool, but not the only tool. And if only that which
could be verified scientifically was considered real, then nearly all
of human experience would be not-real. -- Zachriel
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| User: "Mike Dworetsky" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:49:59 AM |
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"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies? War and military operations
in the field are fantastically expensive. And what with the American and
European farm subsidy programmes that pay farmers to leave soil
uncultivated, we are already doing this at home.
I can see possible policing problems, but nothing unsurmountable, surely.
--
Mike Dworetsky
(Remove "pants" spamblock to send e-mail)
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| User: "Dale" |
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02 Sep 2006 02:49:10 PM |
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"Mike Dworetsky" <platinum198@pants.btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:0dudne7hTdXCzmTZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d@bt.com...
[...]
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the
same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies? War and military
operations
in the field are fantastically expensive. And what with the American and
European farm subsidy programmes that pay farmers to leave soil
uncultivated, we are already doing this at home.
I can see possible policing problems, but nothing unsurmountable, surely.
Then everybody with a patch of land would start growing poppies so they
could get paid to eradicate them.
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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02 Sep 2006 07:43:07 AM |
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Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies?
They would take our money not to grow them, grow them anyway, and end up
with twice as much money.
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| User: "mcv" |
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02 Sep 2006 08:21:06 AM |
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In talk.origins Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies?
They would take our money not to grow them, grow them anyway, and end up
with twice as much money.
Paying opium prices for their wheat might help.
mcv.
--
Science is not the be-all and end-all of human existence. It's a tool.
A very powerful tool, but not the only tool. And if only that which
could be verified scientifically was considered real, then nearly all
of human experience would be not-real. -- Zachriel
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| User: "Desertphile" |
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02 Sep 2006 09:53:10 AM |
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Tim McGaughy wrote:
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies?
They would take our money not to grow them, grow them anyway, and end up
with twice as much money.
Why doesn't the Bush2 regime just kill them? After all, they have brown
skin....
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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02 Sep 2006 11:37:07 AM |
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Desertphile wrote:
Tim McGaughy wrote:
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies?
They would take our money not to grow them, grow them anyway, and end up
with twice as much money.
Why doesn't the Bush2 regime just kill them? After all, they have brown
skin....
You draw up some fucking blueprints and we'll put this plan into action.
What...? Oh, sorry, I think I was channeling Bush for a moment.
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| User: "Friar Broccoli" |
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02 Sep 2006 09:19:04 PM |
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Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies? War and military operations
in the field are fantastically expensive. And what with the American and
European farm subsidy programmes that pay farmers to leave soil
uncultivated, we are already doing this at home.
I can see possible policing problems, but nothing unsurmountable, surely.
In addition to the other excellent reasons already given:
- take the money and grow poppies anyway
- grow new poppies to get paid not to grow them
there is also:
Afghanistan is controlled by warlords. Their power derives from their
ability to pay their armies and supply them with guns. They get the
money for this from their control of the heroin trade. So they will
fight to protect the poppy fields and have the means to do so.
I'm not sure, but I think the best solution would be to just legalise
growing poppies for farmers everywhere. The price of heroin would
drop through the floor putting the warlords and many many criminal
organisations out of business.
I'm sure there would be some serious social consequences, but I think
they would not be as bad as the problems arising out of keeping
drugs illegal (ie Well funded criminal gangs).
Cordially;
Friar Broccoli
Robert Keith Elias, Quebec, Canada Email: EliasRK (of) gmail * com
Best programmer's & all purpose text editor: http://www.semware.com
--------- I consider ALL arguments in support of my views ---------
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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03 Sep 2006 01:20:18 PM |
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Friar Broccoli wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think the best solution would be to just legalise
growing poppies for farmers everywhere. The price of heroin would
drop through the floor putting the warlords and many many criminal
organisations out of business.
You're not the only one.
http://www.leap.cc/
--Jeff
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The rich don't care for anybody but themselves;
it's only the poor that have feeling for the poor,
and help them. --Mark Twain
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| User: "Bobby Bryant" |
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03 Sep 2006 04:29:59 PM |
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In article <12fm772asadaqe5@corp.supernews.com>,
Jeffrey Turner <jturner@localnet.com> writes:
Friar Broccoli wrote:
I'm not sure, but I think the best solution would be to just
legalise growing poppies for farmers everywhere. The price of
heroin would drop through the floor putting the warlords and many
many criminal organisations out of business.
You're not the only one.
http://www.leap.cc/
Of course, those who complain most about the nanny state will probably
be the ones most outraged by the suggestion.
I suspect that the the rise of youth gangs in the USA is primarily a
side effect of the war on drugs. (I suspect Prohibition similarly
boosted traditional organized crime, but I don't know enough of the
relevant history to say for sure.)
--
Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada
Remove your hat to reply by e-mail.
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| User: "Jeffrey Turner" |
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02 Sep 2006 09:53:41 AM |
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Mike Dworetsky wrote:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote:
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
I was just wondering, wouldn't it be cheaper to pay Afghan farmers the same
as they receive now, NOT to grow opium poppies? War and military operations
in the field are fantastically expensive.
But that money is going to "our" military contractors. The Afghans
haven't bought even one politician yet, European or American. Everyone
would want free representation.
And what with the American and
European farm subsidy programmes that pay farmers to leave soil
uncultivated, we are already doing this at home.
I can see possible policing problems, but nothing unsurmountable, surely.
As Tim says, enforcement would be expensive. Plus, it would cut funding
for CIA operations, if they're running true to form. It's just a bad
precedent all around.
--Jeff
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The rich don't care for anybody but themselves;
it's only the poor that have feeling for the poor,
and help them. --Mark Twain
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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02 Sep 2006 09:45:11 AM |
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"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
Isn't that basically the Republican plan?
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| User: "Bobby Bryant" |
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02 Sep 2006 04:59:59 PM |
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In article <x5OdnavKfpiDBGTZnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark Stahl" <stahl@nospam.aecom.yu.edu> writes:
"mcv" <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
In talk.origins <>
wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
Isn't that basically the Republican plan?
I would have said the Neocon plan. (Though they _have_ been in
control of Republican policy of late.)
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Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada
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02 Sep 2006 04:57:46 PM |
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In article <44f950ae$0$4524$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>,
mcv <mcvmcv@xs4all.nl> writes:
In talk.origins <> wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
The Taliban had mostly suppressed opium production in Afghanistan before
the invasion. Now they've made a marriage of convenience with the drug
lords to fund their counterattack.
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Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada
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02 Sep 2006 05:20:52 AM |
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 09:36:46 +0000, mcv wrote:
In talk.origins <> wrote:
Poppy cultivation in Afganistan is expected to increase by 40% this
year. They are headed for a record crop. (IIRC this is not the first
record crop in recent years).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060831/ap_on_go_ot/us_afghan_opium
The War on Terrorism is colliding with that older War on Drugs. If
you want peace, you need people to be happy. If you want people to
be happy, they need to have an income. And for farmers in
Afghanistan, an income means growing drugs. Destroy the poppy
fields and suddenly you've got a War with Everybody.
"Mission Accomplished"
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