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"Eris" |
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06 Oct 2004 05:55:55 PM |
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O.T. Another weight lifting question |
I tried to leave the Machines and do free weights. I could not
control the weight at any weight for the bench press. One of the guys
said I had destroyed my stablizer muscles in my shoulder. The front
top portion of my shoulders seemed to be the problem. He suggested the
Smith machine. Has anyone else ever heard of this problem?
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: O.T. Another weight lifting question |
06 Oct 2004 09:53:07 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant01@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:vqt8m01qa9emn2a0ck3fkikd0t250l4paj@4ax.com...
I tried to leave the Machines and do free weights. I could not
control the weight at any weight for the bench press. One of the guys
said I had destroyed my stablizer muscles in my shoulder. The front
top portion of my shoulders seemed to be the problem. He suggested the
Smith machine. Has anyone else ever heard of this problem?
I doubt that you've destroyed the stabilizer muscles. More likely there are
some muscles that are way underdeveloped in relation to the other ones.
Okay, by now you can tell I'm no expert, my main knowledge comes from taking
kung fu and tai chi, where I've discovered and developed all sort of muscles
I never knew I had.
In your situation, I would start with some qi gong stances. Stand relaxed
with your feet about 1.5 shoulder widths apart, feet parallel, toes lightly
gripping, knees bent, back straight, butt tucked in, your head is light as
if a balloon were attached to your soft spot. Now put your arms out in front
of you like you're holding a beach ball between your elbows and a volley
ball between your hands. Fingers should be relaxed, try to relax everything
except the muscles that are working, especially don't get tense in the
shoulders.
Breathe into your belly. Hold this position for 33 breaths. While in the
stance, go over different portions of your body mentally and make sure
everything is as relaxed as possible. You'll do this over and over, and each
time you'll find some muscle unnecessarily tensed.
At the end of 33 breaths bring your hands together briefly and extend them
out to either side, arms roughly parallel to the ground, wrists relaxed,
fingers relaxed. Hold this for 33 breaths. Then bring your hands down in
front of your thighs but not touching, and hold for 33 breaths. This will
get you started. Your legs and arms will feel very light and springy.
There are some examples of more qi gong stuff here
http://www.yiquan78.org/daoyin.htm.
I would also recommend yoga-style push ups, where your hands are directly
under your shoulders with fingers pointing forward so that your elbows are
tight to your sides on the down stroke.
Finally, you might try lifting small weights, like ten or twenty pounds in
each hand. Lift slowly with control, using circular motions. Don't think
about reps, think about how long you can hold them up.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: O.T. Another weight lifting question |
07 Oct 2004 07:11:46 PM |
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 18:55:55 -0400 in episode
<vqt8m01qa9emn2a0ck3fkikd0t250l4paj@4ax.com> we saw our hero Eris
<vithant01@nospamcomcast.net>:
I tried to leave the Machines and do free weights. I could not control
the weight at any weight for the bench press. One of the guys said I had
destroyed my stablizer muscles in my shoulder. The front top portion of my
shoulders seemed to be the problem. He suggested the Smith machine. Has
anyone else ever heard of this problem?
If you can't control the weight, set away from the bench. <g>
Seriously, you could injure yourself and that's kind of counter productive
eh? Far as why you're having that kind of trouble, well, "guys at the gym"
aren't doctors. I don't know, I'm not a doctor either. Not being able to
control any weight is something I haven't run into. Though it could be
something as simple as you're just not strong enough yet. The muscles that
stabilize the weight just may be weak. You haven't really been working out
that long yet. It could take time.
Nothing wrong with using a Smith for now. Though get somebody (like staff)
to show you how to use it correctly. Particularly whatever stops it has to
keep the weight from landing on you if you do lose control. And maybe
some shoulder exercises. If your shoulders are weak, the bench is not just
hard to do, it can result in injury.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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