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12 Dec 2004 06:47:18 AM |
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OT: Arabs |
Arabs Reject U.S. Push for Reform
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58255-2004Dec11.html
At Morocco Conference, Officials Say Support for Israel Hinders
Progress
By Glenn Kessler, Page A16
RABAT, Morocco, Dec. 11 -- Senior Arab officials attending an
international conference to promote democracy in the Middle East
emphatically rejected on Saturday the Bush administration's assertion
that greater democracy in the region would help end terrorism. They
argued that the administration's strong support of Israel made it
difficult to undertake political reform or to stop extremists driven by
hatred of U.S. policies.
Arab Arabs Arabic
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+Arab+OR+Arabs+OR+Arabic&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=+Arab+OR+Arabs+OR+Arabic&sa=N&tab=nw
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http://groups.google.com/groups?as_oq=Arab%20Arabs%20Arabic&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_oq=Arab%20Arabs%20Arabic&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Arabs |
13 Dec 2004 09:14:30 PM |
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On 12 Dec 2004 04:47:18 -0800 the ET form known as
maff<maff91@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Arabs Reject U.S. Push for Reform
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58255-2004Dec11.html
At Morocco Conference, Officials Say Support for Israel Hinders
Progress
By Glenn Kessler, Page A16
RABAT, Morocco, Dec. 11 -- Senior Arab officials attending an
international conference to promote democracy in the Middle East
emphatically rejected on Saturday the Bush administration's assertion
that greater democracy in the region would help end terrorism. They
argued that the administration's strong support of Israel made it
difficult to undertake political reform or to stop extremists driven by
hatred of U.S. policies.
I am not surprised when the US supports so many despots including the
Saud family and protects them and their personal property such as
Saudi Arabia. You can't sell bucket loads of weapons to despots and
can turn and give a pro democracy cheer and expect anyone to be
impressed. Likewise the targeting of al Jazeera offices, the only free
media outlet in the middle east outside Israel, in Kabul and Baghdad,
the closing of newspapers in Iraq critical of US occupation by Bremmer
and other rather undemocratic measures. No I do not believe the US
want democracy. They want obedience. They certainly do not want
democracy when outcomes are those of the Venezuelan elections. In the
same way Chile under Pinochet was a shining light for the US even in
the absence of elections.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Arabs |
14 Dec 2004 05:06:17 AM |
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Meteorite Debris wrote:
On 12 Dec 2004 04:47:18 -0800 the ET form known as
maff<maff91@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Arabs Reject U.S. Push for Reform
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58255-2004Dec11.html
At Morocco Conference, Officials Say Support for Israel Hinders
Progress
By Glenn Kessler, Page A16
RABAT, Morocco, Dec. 11 -- Senior Arab officials attending an
international conference to promote democracy in the Middle East
emphatically rejected on Saturday the Bush administration's
assertion
that greater democracy in the region would help end terrorism. They
argued that the administration's strong support of Israel made it
difficult to undertake political reform or to stop extremists
driven by
hatred of U.S. policies.
I am not surprised when the US supports so many despots including the
Saud family and protects them and their personal property such as
Saudi Arabia. You can't sell bucket loads of weapons to despots and
can turn and give a pro democracy cheer and expect anyone to be
impressed. Likewise the targeting of al Jazeera offices, the only
free
media outlet in the middle east outside Israel, in Kabul and Baghdad,
the closing of newspapers in Iraq critical of US occupation by
Bremmer
and other rather undemocratic measures. No I do not believe the US
want democracy. They want obedience. They certainly do not want
democracy when outcomes are those of the Venezuelan elections. In the
same way Chile under Pinochet was a shining light for the US even in
the absence of elections.
The French Lesson
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/6=
6d0e11d3b7977d8
By R=C9GIS DeBRAY
PARIS - In the year 212, Emperor Caracalla granted citizenship to all
free men in the Roman Empire. Emboldened by that precedent, a friend
of mine, a former high French official, once asked a president of the
United States to treat Europeans as compatriots. It was an agreeable
fantasy; only vassals were wanted.
Debray
http://news.google.com/news?q=3Ddebray&num=3D100&hl=3Den&lr=3D&sa=3DN&tab=
=3Dwn
http://www.google.com/search?q=3Ddebray&num=3D100&hl=3Den&lr=3D&tab=3Dnw&ie=
=3DUTF-8&sa=3DN
http://www.google.com/search?q=3Ddebray&num=3D100&hl=3Den&lr=3D&output=3Dse=
arch&cat=3Dgwd/Top
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=3DDeBray&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&num=
=3D100&hl=3Den&lr=3D&safe=3Doff&
"You touch me on a very tender point when you say that my friends on
your side the water cannot be reconciled to the idea of my abandoning
America. They are right. I had rather see my horse Button eating the
grass of Bordentown or Morrisania than see all the pomp and show of
Europe.
A thousand years hence (for I must indulge a few thoughts), perhaps in
less, America may be what Europe now is. The innocence of her
character, that won the hearts of all nations in her favor, may sound
like a romance and her inimitable virtue as if it had never been. The
ruin of that liberty which thousands bled for or struggled to obtain
may just furnish materials for a village tale or extort a sigh from
rustic sensibility, whilst the fashionable of that day, enveloped in
dissipation, shall deride the principle and deny the fact.
When we contemplate the fall of empires and the extinction of the
nations of the Ancient World, we see but little to excite our regret
than the mouldering ruins of pompous palaces, magnificent museums,
lofty pyramids and walls and towers of the most costly workmanship; but
when the empire of America shall fall, the subject for contemplative
sorrow will be infinitely greater than crumbling brass and marble can
inspire. It will not then be said, here stood a temple of vast
antiquity; here rose a babel of invisible height; or there a palace of
sumptuous extravagance; but here, Ah, painful thought! the noblest work
of human wisdom, the grandest scene of human glory, the fair cause of
Freedom rose and fell. Read this, and then ask if I forget America."
Letter to George Washington - Thomas Paine
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3Den&lr=3D&selm=3D18510aff.0306240238.25=
73b7a1@posting.google.com
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
=20
-Mencken
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Arabs |
16 Dec 2004 12:22:33 AM |
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On 12 Dec 2004 04:47:18 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
RABAT, Morocco, Dec. 11 -- Senior Arab officials attending an
international conference to promote democracy in the Middle East
Right.
emphatically rejected on Saturday the Bush administration's assertion
that greater democracy in the region would help end terrorism. They
Conference to promote democracy? Sounds more like the classical arab
league ***** shadowgames. These people only get together to condemn
Israel but know damned well that if it ever came down to it, they
would lose any military action.
argued that the administration's strong support of Israel made it
difficult to undertake political reform or to stop extremists driven by
hatred of U.S. policies.
Oooh, and they certainly have the moral highground, don't they? A
bunch of dictatorial muslim/arab-nazis who perpetrate crimes against
humanity on a daily basis. Yes, let's blame somebody ELSE for our
problems. Hey, it worked for the germans! For a while...
--
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
-James Madison
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Arabs |
16 Dec 2004 02:25:16 AM |
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Rune B=F8rsj=F8 wrote:
On 12 Dec 2004 04:47:18 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
RABAT, Morocco, Dec. 11 -- Senior Arab officials attending an
international conference to promote democracy in the Middle East
Right.
emphatically rejected on Saturday the Bush administration's
assertion
that greater democracy in the region would help end terrorism. They
Conference to promote democracy? Sounds more like the classical arab
It's U.S. who's promoting democracy.
league ***** shadowgames. These people only get together to
condemn
Israel but know damned well that if it ever came down to it, they
would lose any military action.
So you don't know anything about demographics? Why do you think even
Likudnik fascists are contemplating withdrawing from the Occupied
territories?
argued that the administration's strong support of Israel made it
difficult to undertake political reform or to stop extremists driven
by
hatred of U.S. policies.
Oooh, and they certainly have the moral highground, don't they? A
bunch of dictatorial muslim/arab-nazis who perpetrate crimes against
humanity on a daily basis. Yes, let's blame somebody ELSE for our
problems. Hey, it worked for the germans! For a while...
But it's the U.S. who's supporting those dictatorial regimes in those
countries. Were you working for Prescott Bush before?
--
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
-James Madison
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| User: "maff" |
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16 Dec 2004 03:03:48 AM |
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Rune B=F8rsj=F8 wrote:
On 12 Dec 2004 04:47:18 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
RABAT, Morocco, Dec. 11 -- Senior Arab officials attending an
international conference to promote democracy in the Middle East
Right.
emphatically rejected on Saturday the Bush administration's
assertion
that greater democracy in the region would help end terrorism. They
Conference to promote democracy? Sounds more like the classical arab
It's U.S. who's promoting democracy.
league ***** shadowgames. These people only get together to
condemn
Israel but know damned well that if it ever came down to it, they
would lose any military action.
So you don't know anything about demographics? Why do you think even
Likudnik fascists are contemplating withdrawing from the Occupied
territories?
argued that the administration's strong support of Israel made it
difficult to undertake political reform or to stop extremists driven
by
hatred of U.S. policies.
Oooh, and they certainly have the moral highground, don't they? A
bunch of dictatorial muslim/arab-nazis who perpetrate crimes against
humanity on a daily basis. Yes, let's blame somebody ELSE for our
problems. Hey, it worked for the germans! For a while...
But it's the U.S. who's supporting those dictatorial regimes in those
countries. Were you working for Prescott Bush before?
--
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,
it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
-James Madison
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