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17 Jun 2005 04:21:19 PM |
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OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
As Toyota Goes ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/17/opinion/17friedman.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8528
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Having Toyota take over General Motors would not only be in America's
economic interest, it would also be in America's geopolitical interest.
Where's The Apology?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/16/AR2005061601375.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6520
Bending the Facts on Schiavo
By E. J. Dionne Jr., Page A31
We are entitled to our moral, ethical and philosophical commitments. We
are not entitled to our own facts.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
20 Jun 2005 06:32:19 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:45:46 +1000, John Wilkins
<j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote:
It just so happens that I drive a Toyota. My second
one. Never had an American car as good.
I still ride American motorcycles. This is probably because
I'm stupid. I do not, however, buy American cars. I'm
driving a Toyota, too.
You can only enjoy riding an American motorcycle on a straight road. As soon
as you have to turn it, you're in trouble :-) [Japcrap rider]
I ride an FXDX. That particular model of Hardley seems to do
well enough when it needs to turn. Not quite the ground
clearance of something like an R1, not really flickable at
well over 600 pounds with a longish wheelbase, and not
especially quick, admittedly. Still, it smokes SUVs off the
line at stoplights, and will get you around corners without
touching anything down at 20 mph. over the suggested speed.
That's all I really insist that it do.
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
20 Jun 2005 07:35:12 PM |
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Nivlem wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:45:46 +1000, John Wilkins
<j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote:
It just so happens that I drive a Toyota. My second
one. Never had an American car as good.
I still ride American motorcycles. This is probably because
I'm stupid. I do not, however, buy American cars. I'm
driving a Toyota, too.
You can only enjoy riding an American motorcycle on a straight road. As soon
as you have to turn it, you're in trouble :-) [Japcrap rider]
I ride an FXDX. That particular model of Hardley seems to do
well enough when it needs to turn. Not quite the ground
clearance of something like an R1, not really flickable at
well over 600 pounds with a longish wheelbase, and not
especially quick, admittedly. Still, it smokes SUVs off the
line at stoplights, and will get you around corners without
touching anything down at 20 mph. over the suggested speed.
That's all I really insist that it do.
Yo *do* know that it is required of motorcycle riders that they praise their
own bikes to the skies and drop crap on all other makes? In particular if you
are in a club comprising many makes and models, like mine (there are two
Harley riders in it. They suffer).
--
John S. Wilkins : evolvethought.blogspot.com
All life is a struggle in the dark
- Titus Lucretius Carus, On the Nature of Things 2.54
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
20 Jun 2005 11:29:32 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:35:12 +1000, John Wilkins
<john@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
Nivlem wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:45:46 +1000, John Wilkins
<j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote:
It just so happens that I drive a Toyota. My second
one. Never had an American car as good.
I still ride American motorcycles. This is probably because
I'm stupid. I do not, however, buy American cars. I'm
driving a Toyota, too.
You can only enjoy riding an American motorcycle on a straight road. As soon
as you have to turn it, you're in trouble :-) [Japcrap rider]
I ride an FXDX. That particular model of Hardley seems to do
well enough when it needs to turn. Not quite the ground
clearance of something like an R1, not really flickable at
well over 600 pounds with a longish wheelbase, and not
especially quick, admittedly. Still, it smokes SUVs off the
line at stoplights, and will get you around corners without
touching anything down at 20 mph. over the suggested speed.
That's all I really insist that it do.
Yo *do* know that it is required of motorcycle riders that they praise their
own bikes to the skies and drop crap on all other makes?
Whatever for?
In particular if you
are in a club comprising many makes and models, like mine (there are two
Harley riders in it. They suffer).
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
21 Jun 2005 12:49:02 AM |
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Nivlem wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:35:12 +1000, John Wilkins
<john@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
Nivlem wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:45:46 +1000, John Wilkins
<j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote:
It just so happens that I drive a Toyota. My second
one. Never had an American car as good.
I still ride American motorcycles. This is probably because
I'm stupid. I do not, however, buy American cars. I'm
driving a Toyota, too.
You can only enjoy riding an American motorcycle on a straight road. As soon
as you have to turn it, you're in trouble :-) [Japcrap rider]
I ride an FXDX. That particular model of Hardley seems to do
well enough when it needs to turn. Not quite the ground
clearance of something like an R1, not really flickable at
well over 600 pounds with a longish wheelbase, and not
especially quick, admittedly. Still, it smokes SUVs off the
line at stoplights, and will get you around corners without
touching anything down at 20 mph. over the suggested speed.
That's all I really insist that it do.
Yo *do* know that it is required of motorcycle riders that they praise their
own bikes to the skies and drop crap on all other makes?
Whatever for?
Dunno. It's the unwritten law. I mean, it's unwritten and I haven't actually
seen it, but Dinsdale said so, and that's good enough for me. Wonderful man,
Dinsdale...
In particular if you
are in a club comprising many makes and models, like mine (there are two
Harley riders in it. They suffer).
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
"Darwin's theory has no more to do with philosophy than any other
hypothesis in natural science." Tractatus 4.1122
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| User: "Richard Forrest" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
19 Jun 2005 01:28:18 PM |
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Nivlem wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:02:07 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
<gans@panix.com> wrote:
In talk.origins wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote:
In talk.origins Lars Eighner <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1119043279.084848.79110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented maff broadcast on alt.atheism:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8528
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Having Toyota take over General Motors would not only be in America's
economic interest, it would also be in America's geopolitical interest.
"What's good for Toyota is good for the USA," somehow, doesn't
quite have the same ring to it.
Neither did the original.
On average, a Japanese (or a German for that matter) CEO makes about
17-19 times the salary of a factory floor employee. The monetary
bonuses that they receive is rarely higher than a year's income.
On average, an American CEO makes about 100-150 times the salary of an
average factory floor worker. Not counting bonuses.
No need to do the math...
I'd also like to mention that I when I sent in my last car payment for
my Camry to Toyota Financial Services, it seems I made an error when I
wrote my check. They informed me of what my error was and sent me
something because of it...a check for 68 cents.
It just so happens that I drive a Toyota. My second
one. Never had an American car as good.
I still ride American motorcycles. This is probably because
I'm stupid.
Yeah. American motorcycles are a waste of good tractor engines.
I do not, however, buy American cars. I'm
driving a Toyota, too.
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| User: "HappyCamper" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
20 Jun 2005 07:18:18 AM |
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"Richard Forrest" <richard@plesiosaur.com> wrote in message
news:1119205697.978494.279270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah. American motorcycles are a waste of good tractor engines.
This is Harley the place to comment on Motorcycles.
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Kind Regards
Cameron
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
20 Jun 2005 07:29:23 AM |
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Happy'Cam'per wrote:
"Richard Forrest" <richard@plesiosaur.com> wrote in message
news:1119205697.978494.279270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Yeah. American motorcycles are a waste of good tractor engines.
This is Harley the place to comment on Motorcycles.
Why not? Bikers have featured prominently in the Canon.
--
John S. Wilkins, People Who Have Halitosis
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: OT: As Toyota Goes ... |
20 Jun 2005 07:30:56 AM |
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Richard Forrest wrote:
Nivlem wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:02:07 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans
<gans@panix.com> wrote:
In talk.origins wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote:
In talk.origins Lars Eighner <eighner@io.com> wrote:
In our last episode,
<1119043279.084848.79110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, the
lovely and talented maff broadcast on alt.atheism:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8528
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Having Toyota take over General Motors would not only be in America's
economic interest, it would also be in America's geopolitical interest.
"What's good for Toyota is good for the USA," somehow, doesn't
quite have the same ring to it.
Neither did the original.
On average, a Japanese (or a German for that matter) CEO makes about
17-19 times the salary of a factory floor employee. The monetary
bonuses that they receive is rarely higher than a year's income.
On average, an American CEO makes about 100-150 times the salary of an
average factory floor worker. Not counting bonuses.
No need to do the math...
I'd also like to mention that I when I sent in my last car payment for
my Camry to Toyota Financial Services, it seems I made an error when I
wrote my check. They informed me of what my error was and sent me
something because of it...a check for 68 cents.
It just so happens that I drive a Toyota. My second
one. Never had an American car as good.
I still ride American motorcycles. This is probably because
I'm stupid.
Yeah. American motorcycles are a waste of good tractor engines.
Don't be silly. People *rely* on tractors...
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
"Darwin's theory has no more to do with philosophy than any other
hypothesis in natural science." Tractatus 4.1122
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