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User: "Therion Ware"
Date: 07 Sep 2005 07:45:59 AM
Object: OT: Attn Elroy.
Major computer problems, so while I got your emails, there's not a lot
I can do about the matters mentioned at the moment. New motherboard
required, I think, and I'm reduced to the laptop I normally keep in
the bathroom....
.

User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 08 Sep 2005 04:36:06 AM
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:25:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:26:44 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<3cpth11p6tuih5337n42qvo8rhjn4pfdjm@4ax.com> wrote:


On the auspictious date of Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:52:53 GMT, Liz said
unto the multitude in message-id
<2doth1taph9rn0dlp4dqm64s9v2glo7tse@4ax.com>:


On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:45:59 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<ftnth1h3ukdgiovs9f02itbugrgl7t8oai@4ax.com> wrote:


Major computer problems, so while I got your emails, there's not a lot
I can do about the matters mentioned at the moment. New motherboard
required, I think, and I'm reduced to the laptop I normally keep in
the bathroom....



I am nonplussed. Is it waterproof?


So how was the holiday? Not too wet, I hope, at least in terms of
rain.


My holiday was wonderful.

Excellent.

The wet weather didn't stop us from
enjoying ourselves. The first day of rain, my daughter and I decided
to go shopping. Neither of us can really stand to shop so after 2
hours,

This is a woman's perspective, eh? My tolerance is about 8 minutes.

we stamped done to that activity changed into our hiking
clothes and were out on the trails despite the rain and fog.

Compass, maps, MRE (French variety for preference), space-blankets,
flares, mobile phone, emergency medical kit, ice axe, St. Bernard,
Siberian Tiger...

Found a
fun new (for us) trail that one must ascend vertically through cracks
in the granite. This involved a lot of pushing (on my part) and
pulling (on my daughter's part). Not a particularly pretty ascent,
but we still felt a sense of accomplishment when we reached the top.

Brilliant. So how was coming down?

Unfortunately, we went a mountain too far. We naively chose a trail
which was a stream bed -- usually dry. With three days of rain,
conditions had changed. I lost count of the number of times we needed
to ford the rushing mountain stream. Has anyone ever told you that
mountain streams can be quite cold? Anyway by the time we summited
and made it back to the trailhead five hours later, both of us were
bloodied, bruised, limping, soaking wet, and dead tired. What fun!

Tremendous! That's what's holidays are all about. Generally speaking,
I sometimes feel I need time off to recover from my holiday....

The next day we decided on a sail instead of another hike.

What kind of boat?


But to answer your question, some posts particularly from out more
enthusiastic Christian friends can only be sufficiently answered while
on is on the way to completing the paperwork, as it were.


I see. The location is for the atmosphere.

Indeed.

And no, it's not waterproof. And has a battery capacity of about 3
seconds, on a good day, but I refuse to pay over 100 GBP for a new
battery for this poor Sony Vaio PCG-F409. But I keep it in the car as
well. Combined with the Gamin GPS, the combination got me out of a big
problem in Milan once when a lorry that was a bit taller than the
bridge it was trying to go under blocked the motorway we needed to
take in order to get to Lake Garda and the police directed us through
central Milan at rush hour.


When I was at Lake Garda, a nice Italian gentleman informed me that it
was "a very fishy lake".

Well, English tourists do keep drowning in it, largely because they
think that a drivers licence means you know how to drive a high
powered speed boat and that life jackets are for wimps, particularly
during bad weather.
If you go there again, tip me the wink, and I'll give you the address
of an excellent place to stay. Cats and everything. And a 29 year-old
blonde daughter of the house who thinks I'm absolutely amazing, not
least for my ironic turn of a ironic Latin phrase. Alas we're not
allowed to go back there again because my wife noticed, and alas I am
a bit of a flirt.
The place is run by a family. The first time we went there was because
the some idiot had got the days wrong on the booking for our hotel,
but the hotel manager said she could fix us up. So we went to Amelia's
place. Despite approximately zero words in common we got on incredibly
well. Amelia is about 60 something, and by day 3 got breakfast in the
family house, Loads of meat and two bottles of Rose ( made by the
family - the husband owns a vineyard).
Set me up for the day, I can tell you!


Anyway, be that as it may ... Weird stuff though.... I take he HDD out
of the ailing machine and put it on another machine, and it works
fine. Stick it back in the master machine and it hangs on boot, in
safe or any other mode. And hangs on the Windows 2000 recovery console
as well.


Decidedly weird.

I thought so. I have a temporary fix now, which while unaesthetic
works fine. As you'll be able to verify should this message ever reach
usenet.


Presumably God hates me so much he's given me an excuse to upgrade.


I'd take it as a Sign®.

I cannot do other than be obedient to the plain direction of fate.




I very much suspect that can of beer I spilt over it a month or so ago
has finally taken its toll.


Was that while you were in the bathroom?

While I am a great believer in efficiency, I think that would be a
little *too* efficient even for me! Except possibly with respect to
IPA which runs through me like a sluice.


So alas I must attack my savings and buy an upgrade. Shame, eh?


Quel dommage.




Which leads me to suspect a motherboard problem.


Oedipus complex, I presume.

Oh I dunno. I just concluded a 3 month silence with regards to my
mother and she broke first, and I assume that was because the local
computer shops couldn't fix the problem. Hah. Took me 15 minutes,
largely because I can read.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. Want food NOW? Then try http://www.rtios.co.uk/
- Yep, currently under test... Your opinion welcome.
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 08 Sep 2005 06:37:19 AM
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:36:06 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<0evvh191kggvurnjovjb21gkdadnmfsujg@4ax.com> wrote:



On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:25:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:26:44 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<3cpth11p6tuih5337n42qvo8rhjn4pfdjm@4ax.com> wrote:

[-----]

The wet weather didn't stop us from
enjoying ourselves. The first day of rain, my daughter and I decided
to go shopping. Neither of us can really stand to shop so after 2
hours,


This is a woman's perspective, eh? My tolerance is about 8 minutes.

we stamped done to that activity changed into our hiking
clothes and were out on the trails despite the rain and fog.


Compass, maps, MRE (French variety for preference), space-blankets,
flares, mobile phone, emergency medical kit, ice axe, St. Bernard,
Siberian Tiger...

I feel rather undergeared. I took a couple of bottles of water and a
rain proof hat. Excellent hiking shoes though.


Found a
fun new (for us) trail that one must ascend vertically through cracks
in the granite. This involved a lot of pushing (on my part) and
pulling (on my daughter's part). Not a particularly pretty ascent,
but we still felt a sense of accomplishment when we reached the top.


Brilliant. So how was coming down?

Coming down was great. We walked down the sloping side instead of
trying to make it back down the face.
Here's a picture of the precipice trail.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/photos/hikeprec.htm
While we didn't do this climbing trail this year because the weather
was too dicey, it is usually on our dance card. However, the terrain
is typical of the granite faces in the park. The ridge trail is much
more gradual.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/


Unfortunately, we went a mountain too far. We naively chose a trail
which was a stream bed -- usually dry. With three days of rain,
conditions had changed. I lost count of the number of times we needed
to ford the rushing mountain stream. Has anyone ever told you that
mountain streams can be quite cold? Anyway by the time we summited
and made it back to the trailhead five hours later, both of us were
bloodied, bruised, limping, soaking wet, and dead tired. What fun!


Tremendous! That's what's holidays are all about. Generally speaking,
I sometimes feel I need time off to recover from my holiday....

I'm still in recovery mode. The best thing was that I committing so
much exercise that I could eat really wonderful evening meals and
still come home even in weight. Maine specialties are lobster "are
you using that extra butter, dear?" and blueberry pie.

The next day we decided on a sail instead of another hike.


What kind of boat?

Schooner - here is a picture:
http://www.downeastsail.com/
[---]

And no, it's not waterproof. And has a battery capacity of about 3
seconds, on a good day, but I refuse to pay over 100 GBP for a new
battery for this poor Sony Vaio PCG-F409. But I keep it in the car as
well. Combined with the Gamin GPS, the combination got me out of a big
problem in Milan once when a lorry that was a bit taller than the
bridge it was trying to go under blocked the motorway we needed to
take in order to get to Lake Garda and the police directed us through
central Milan at rush hour.


When I was at Lake Garda, a nice Italian gentleman informed me that it
was "a very fishy lake".


Well, English tourists do keep drowning in it, largely because they
think that a drivers licence means you know how to drive a high
powered speed boat and that life jackets are for wimps, particularly
during bad weather.

The expression "mad as an Englishman" leaps to mind.

If you go there again, tip me the wink, and I'll give you the address
of an excellent place to stay. Cats and everything. And a 29 year-old
blonde daughter of the house who thinks I'm absolutely amazing, not
least for my ironic turn of a ironic Latin phrase. Alas we're not
allowed to go back there again because my wife noticed, and alas I am
a bit of a flirt.

LOL I will do that.


The place is run by a family. The first time we went there was because
the some idiot had got the days wrong on the booking for our hotel,
but the hotel manager said she could fix us up. So we went to Amelia's
place. Despite approximately zero words in common we got on incredibly
well. Amelia is about 60 something, and by day 3 got breakfast in the
family house, Loads of meat and two bottles of Rose ( made by the
family - the husband owns a vineyard).

Set me up for the day, I can tell you!

Fond memories, I can tell.
[-----]

I very much suspect that can of beer I spilt over it a month or so ago
has finally taken its toll.


Was that while you were in the bathroom?


While I am a great believer in efficiency, I think that would be a
little *too* efficient even for me! Except possibly with respect to
IPA which runs through me like a sluice.

One must do what one can to increase the productivity ratio.
[-----]

Which leads me to suspect a motherboard problem.


Oedipus complex, I presume.


Oh I dunno. I just concluded a 3 month silence with regards to my
mother and she broke first, and I assume that was because the local
computer shops couldn't fix the problem. Hah. Took me 15 minutes,
largely because I can read.

Amazing. I used to wonder where the illiterate worked. Now we know.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 12 Sep 2005 07:45:16 PM
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:37:19 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 10:36:06 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<0evvh191kggvurnjovjb21gkdadnmfsujg@4ax.com> wrote:



On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:25:01 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:26:44 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<3cpth11p6tuih5337n42qvo8rhjn4pfdjm@4ax.com> wrote:


[-----]

The wet weather didn't stop us from
enjoying ourselves. The first day of rain, my daughter and I decided
to go shopping. Neither of us can really stand to shop so after 2
hours,


This is a woman's perspective, eh? My tolerance is about 8 minutes.

we stamped done to that activity changed into our hiking
clothes and were out on the trails despite the rain and fog.


Compass, maps, MRE (French variety for preference), space-blankets,
flares, mobile phone, emergency medical kit, ice axe, St. Bernard,
Siberian Tiger...


I feel rather undergeared. I took a couple of bottles of water and a
rain proof hat. Excellent hiking shoes though.


Found a
fun new (for us) trail that one must ascend vertically through cracks
in the granite. This involved a lot of pushing (on my part) and
pulling (on my daughter's part). Not a particularly pretty ascent,
but we still felt a sense of accomplishment when we reached the top.


Brilliant. So how was coming down?


Coming down was great. We walked down the sloping side instead of
trying to make it back down the face.

Here's a picture of the precipice trail.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/photos/hikeprec.htm

EEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk.
My vertigo and that trail would not get along.

While we didn't do this climbing trail this year because the weather
was too dicey, it is usually on our dance card. However, the terrain
is typical of the granite faces in the park. The ridge trail is much
more gradual.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/

Arcadia National Park is quite pretty. Hopping the propane powered
buses makes things much easier.

Unfortunately, we went a mountain too far. We naively chose a trail
which was a stream bed -- usually dry. With three days of rain,
conditions had changed. I lost count of the number of times we needed
to ford the rushing mountain stream. Has anyone ever told you that
mountain streams can be quite cold?

Try grabbing a bath in Robie Creek in the mountains north of Boise,
Idaho the second week of November.

Anyway by the time we summited
and made it back to the trailhead five hours later, both of us were
bloodied, bruised, limping, soaking wet, and dead tired. What fun!


Tremendous! That's what's holidays are all about. Generally speaking,
I sometimes feel I need time off to recover from my holiday....


I'm still in recovery mode. The best thing was that I committing so
much exercise that I could eat really wonderful evening meals and
still come home even in weight. Maine specialties are lobster "are
you using that extra butter, dear?" and blueberry pie.

Hmmmm.....I'm going to have to dig up the photos we took in Maine.
Now that I'm flinging acrylic and oil paints around.....

The next day we decided on a sail instead of another hike.


What kind of boat?


Schooner - here is a picture:
http://www.downeastsail.com/

Sounds like a lovely way to travel, as a passenger. :D

[---]

And no, it's not waterproof. And has a battery capacity of about 3
seconds, on a good day, but I refuse to pay over 100 GBP for a new
battery for this poor Sony Vaio PCG-F409. But I keep it in the car as
well. Combined with the Gamin GPS, the combination got me out of a big
problem in Milan once when a lorry that was a bit taller than the
bridge it was trying to go under blocked the motorway we needed to
take in order to get to Lake Garda and the police directed us through
central Milan at rush hour.


When I was at Lake Garda, a nice Italian gentleman informed me that it
was "a very fishy lake".


Well, English tourists do keep drowning in it, largely because they
think that a drivers licence means you know how to drive a high
powered speed boat and that life jackets are for wimps, particularly
during bad weather.



The expression "mad as an Englishman" leaps to mind.

If you go there again, tip me the wink, and I'll give you the address
of an excellent place to stay. Cats and everything. And a 29 year-old
blonde daughter of the house who thinks I'm absolutely amazing, not
least for my ironic turn of a ironic Latin phrase. Alas we're not
allowed to go back there again because my wife noticed, and alas I am
a bit of a flirt.


LOL I will do that.


The place is run by a family. The first time we went there was because
the some idiot had got the days wrong on the booking for our hotel,
but the hotel manager said she could fix us up. So we went to Amelia's
place. Despite approximately zero words in common we got on incredibly
well. Amelia is about 60 something, and by day 3 got breakfast in the
family house, Loads of meat and two bottles of Rose ( made by the
family - the husband owns a vineyard).

Set me up for the day, I can tell you!


Fond memories, I can tell.

[-----]

I very much suspect that can of beer I spilt over it a month or so ago
has finally taken its toll.


Was that while you were in the bathroom?


While I am a great believer in efficiency, I think that would be a
little *too* efficient even for me! Except possibly with respect to
IPA which runs through me like a sluice.


One must do what one can to increase the productivity ratio.


[-----]

Which leads me to suspect a motherboard problem.


Oedipus complex, I presume.


Oh I dunno. I just concluded a 3 month silence with regards to my
mother and she broke first, and I assume that was because the local
computer shops couldn't fix the problem. Hah. Took me 15 minutes,
largely because I can read.


Amazing. I used to wonder where the illiterate worked. Now we know.

lol!!!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 12 Sep 2005 09:26:29 PM
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:16 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <mj7ci1t67rqgrt84bucml9k99rshhc4sfv@4ax.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:37:19 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

[----]

Here's a picture of the precipice trail.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/photos/hikeprec.htm


EEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk.
My vertigo and that trail would not get along.

You should see the steep part. That is one of my favorite trails.
I have Benign Positional Vertigo, but heights, as long as I'm standing
on something solid, isn't a trigger. I can stand on the edge of a
mountain or a rooftop without any problem, but I can't climb a ladder
or stand on a grilled fire escape and look down without getting
nauseous.


While we didn't do this climbing trail this year because the weather
was too dicey, it is usually on our dance card. However, the terrain
is typical of the granite faces in the park. The ridge trail is much
more gradual.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/


Arcadia National Park is quite pretty. Hopping the propane powered
buses makes things much easier.

The buses are wonderful. They've even got bike racks on them so if
you get tired or hurt, you can flag them down and they will take you
and your bicycle back to civilization.

Unfortunately, we went a mountain too far. We naively chose a trail
which was a stream bed -- usually dry. With three days of rain,
conditions had changed. I lost count of the number of times we needed
to ford the rushing mountain stream. Has anyone ever told you that
mountain streams can be quite cold?


Try grabbing a bath in Robie Creek in the mountains north of Boise,
Idaho the second week of November.

Ah, no thanks. This one was cold enough.


Anyway by the time we summited
and made it back to the trailhead five hours later, both of us were
bloodied, bruised, limping, soaking wet, and dead tired. What fun!


Tremendous! That's what's holidays are all about. Generally speaking,
I sometimes feel I need time off to recover from my holiday....


I'm still in recovery mode. The best thing was that I committing so
much exercise that I could eat really wonderful evening meals and
still come home even in weight. Maine specialties are lobster "are
you using that extra butter, dear?" and blueberry pie.


Hmmmm.....I'm going to have to dig up the photos we took in Maine.
Now that I'm flinging acrylic and oil paints around.....

I have one favorite spot on the coast -- on Ocean Drive about a mile
south of Thunder Hole just across from the second Gorham Mountain
parking lot. The granite is piled in car sized chunks as it slopes
toward the ocean. A large trapazoidial hunk of granite is perched
over a tidal pool sheltered in a large crack in the rock. To the
right, the waves come pounding and spraying up on the granite
outcrops, but the tidal pool stays serene. It is I think my most
calming spot in the entire world.


The next day we decided on a sail instead of another hike.


What kind of boat?


Schooner - here is a picture:
http://www.downeastsail.com/


Sounds like a lovely way to travel, as a passenger. :D

Yes, I love playing Captain Bligh. We were invited to help hoist the
sails, but I declined. Looked for seals instead.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 13 Sep 2005 11:18:04 PM
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:26:29 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:16 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <mj7ci1t67rqgrt84bucml9k99rshhc4sfv@4ax.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:37:19 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

[----]

Here's a picture of the precipice trail.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/photos/hikeprec.htm


EEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk.
My vertigo and that trail would not get along.


You should see the steep part. That is one of my favorite trails.

[gibber]

I have Benign Positional Vertigo, but heights, as long as I'm standing
on something solid, isn't a trigger. I can stand on the edge of a
mountain or a rooftop without any problem, but I can't climb a ladder
or stand on a grilled fire escape and look down without getting
nauseous.

Interesting. I had never heard of BPV before. My vertigo is
permanent, but it varies as well. I'd climb into the cockpit of F-4's
and sit to wait for the jet to quit spinning. (Visualize slapping the
tail of a toy airplane with a sideways motion). It's also dependant
upon head and body position as well is amplified by changes in air
pressure. Let's just say its all...errrr...very interesting and leave
it at that.

While we didn't do this climbing trail this year because the weather
was too dicey, it is usually on our dance card. However, the terrain
is typical of the granite faces in the park. The ridge trail is much
more gradual.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/


Arcadia National Park is quite pretty. Hopping the propane powered
buses makes things much easier.


The buses are wonderful. They've even got bike racks on them so if
you get tired or hurt, you can flag them down and they will take you
and your bicycle back to civilization.

Even better.

Unfortunately, we went a mountain too far. We naively chose a trail
which was a stream bed -- usually dry. With three days of rain,
conditions had changed. I lost count of the number of times we needed
to ford the rushing mountain stream. Has anyone ever told you that
mountain streams can be quite cold?


Try grabbing a bath in Robie Creek in the mountains north of Boise,
Idaho the second week of November.


Ah, no thanks. This one was cold enough.

LOL. I still remember plunging through a creek while on that search
for that lost 9 year old child. I had to get special medical
permission to go as I was under all sorts of medical restrictions. By
order of the base commander *no one* was to search for more than two
days (military bus went up each day full of volunteers) as after that
there was too much danger of the rough terrain causing injury.
That wading was the second day. It was the only one of four creeks
there was nothing in sight to cross on. Turns out the night before
the area had gotten snow which was melting. In almost no time my
parka was soaked through and my feet were squishing with each step in
the mukluks. There was really no change by going through the creek,
my feet couldn't get any wetter. I did take the time to wring my
socks and the inserts out after I got to the other side.
We tried. Tried like hell.

Anyway by the time we summited
and made it back to the trailhead five hours later, both of us were
bloodied, bruised, limping, soaking wet, and dead tired. What fun!


Tremendous! That's what's holidays are all about. Generally speaking,
I sometimes feel I need time off to recover from my holiday....


I'm still in recovery mode. The best thing was that I committing so
much exercise that I could eat really wonderful evening meals and
still come home even in weight. Maine specialties are lobster "are
you using that extra butter, dear?" and blueberry pie.


Hmmmm.....I'm going to have to dig up the photos we took in Maine.
Now that I'm flinging acrylic and oil paints around.....


I have one favorite spot on the coast -- on Ocean Drive about a mile
south of Thunder Hole just across from the second Gorham Mountain
parking lot. The granite is piled in car sized chunks as it slopes
toward the ocean. A large trapazoidial hunk of granite is perched
over a tidal pool sheltered in a large crack in the rock. To the
right, the waves come pounding and spraying up on the granite
outcrops, but the tidal pool stays serene. It is I think my most
calming spot in the entire world.

I don't recall much about Arcadia. 'Swiss Cheese Memory' :\

The next day we decided on a sail instead of another hike.


What kind of boat?


Schooner - here is a picture:
http://www.downeastsail.com/


Sounds like a lovely way to travel, as a passenger. :D


Yes, I love playing Captain Bligh.

I managed to refrain from inquiring if they let you 'beat the timing
drum.' ;)

We were invited to help hoist the
sails, but I declined. Looked for seals instead.

[chuckling]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 14 Sep 2005 06:10:32 AM
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:18:04 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <j68fi19pseeqadvgpu6hfrlo4h43fdp61f@4ax.com> wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:26:29 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:16 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <mj7ci1t67rqgrt84bucml9k99rshhc4sfv@4ax.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:37:19 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

[----]

Here's a picture of the precipice trail.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/photos/hikeprec.htm


EEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk.
My vertigo and that trail would not get along.


You should see the steep part. That is one of my favorite trails.


[gibber]

I have Benign Positional Vertigo, but heights, as long as I'm standing
on something solid, isn't a trigger. I can stand on the edge of a
mountain or a rooftop without any problem, but I can't climb a ladder
or stand on a grilled fire escape and look down without getting
nauseous.


Interesting. I had never heard of BPV before.

It occurs mostly in women with onset during their mid-50s. Let's just
say that I'm a typical case. It's very manageable.

My vertigo is
permanent, but it varies as well. I'd climb into the cockpit of F-4's
and sit to wait for the jet to quit spinning. (Visualize slapping the
tail of a toy airplane with a sideways motion). It's also dependant
upon head and body position as well is amplified by changes in air
pressure. Let's just say its all...errrr...very interesting and leave
it at that.

Oh Lint®, that makes me feel sick just imagining it.
[---]


Unfortunately, we went a mountain too far. We naively chose a trail
which was a stream bed -- usually dry. With three days of rain,
conditions had changed. I lost count of the number of times we needed
to ford the rushing mountain stream. Has anyone ever told you that
mountain streams can be quite cold?


Try grabbing a bath in Robie Creek in the mountains north of Boise,
Idaho the second week of November.


Ah, no thanks. This one was cold enough.


LOL. I still remember plunging through a creek while on that search
for that lost 9 year old child. I had to get special medical
permission to go as I was under all sorts of medical restrictions. By
order of the base commander *no one* was to search for more than two
days (military bus went up each day full of volunteers) as after that
there was too much danger of the rough terrain causing injury.

That wading was the second day. It was the only one of four creeks
there was nothing in sight to cross on. Turns out the night before
the area had gotten snow which was melting. In almost no time my
parka was soaked through and my feet were squishing with each step in
the mukluks. There was really no change by going through the creek,
my feet couldn't get any wetter. I did take the time to wring my
socks and the inserts out after I got to the other side.

We tried. Tried like hell.

<nods>
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 16 Sep 2005 03:18:45 PM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:10:32 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:18:04 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <j68fi19pseeqadvgpu6hfrlo4h43fdp61f@4ax.com> wrote:

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:26:29 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:45:16 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> in news
message <mj7ci1t67rqgrt84bucml9k99rshhc4sfv@4ax.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 11:37:19 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:

[----]

Here's a picture of the precipice trail.
http://www.nps.gov/acad/photos/hikeprec.htm


EEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk.
My vertigo and that trail would not get along.


You should see the steep part. That is one of my favorite trails.


[gibber]

I have Benign Positional Vertigo, but heights, as long as I'm standing
on something solid, isn't a trigger. I can stand on the edge of a
mountain or a rooftop without any problem, but I can't climb a ladder
or stand on a grilled fire escape and look down without getting
nauseous.


Interesting. I had never heard of BPV before.


It occurs mostly in women with onset during their mid-50s. Let's just
say that I'm a typical case. It's very manageable.

Excellant that its manageable.

My vertigo is
permanent, but it varies as well. I'd climb into the cockpit of F-4's
and sit to wait for the jet to quit spinning. (Visualize slapping the
tail of a toy airplane with a sideways motion). It's also dependant
upon head and body position as well is amplified by changes in air
pressure. Let's just say its all...errrr...very interesting and leave
it at that.

Oh Lint®, that makes me feel sick just imagining it.

Some equipment in the F-4 required flipping upside down to remove and
one item required working entirely by feel. Needless to say that one
required time.
[]
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 07 Sep 2005 08:47:59 AM
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Major computer problems, so while I got your emails, there's not a lot
I can do about the matters mentioned at the moment. New motherboard
required, I think, and I'm reduced to the laptop I normally keep in
the bathroom....

Don't worry about the emails. There's no rush.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.

User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 07 Sep 2005 08:38:41 AM
Therion Ware wrote:

Major computer problems, so while I got your emails, there's not a lot
I can do about the matters mentioned at the moment. New motherboard
required, I think, and I'm reduced to the laptop I normally keep in
the bathroom....

A laptop computer kept in the bathroom. Now THAT is a cybergeek!
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Attn Elroy. 12 Sep 2005 08:05:58 PM
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 06:38:41 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>
wrote:

Therion Ware wrote:

Major computer problems, so while I got your emails, there's not a lot
I can do about the matters mentioned at the moment. New motherboard
required, I think, and I'm reduced to the laptop I normally keep in
the bathroom....


A laptop computer kept in the bathroom. Now THAT is a cybergeek!

Its easier to dispose of theist ***** that way.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.



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