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Religions > Atheism |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 AM |
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OT: Back where we started... |
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "GreyHairedFart throwaway1833.hotmail.com" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Back where we started... |
12 Jul 2007 07:34:38 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:zK-
dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Mark, it simple geography. Once you've turned the corner for the fourth
time, you're back where you started.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jul 2007 12:10:58 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:34:38 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:zK-
dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Mark, it simple geography. Once you've turned the corner for the fourth
time, you're back where you started.
You know, other than being bogged down in a civil war and tons of debt
piled up, it's like we've gone all the way round back to when doofus
first took office.
Such a long ride to get nowhere...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "GreyHairedFart throwaway1833.hotmail.com" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Back where we started... |
13 Jul 2007 03:17:48 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnamljt6_LwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:34:38 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:zK-
dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Mark, it simple geography. Once you've turned the corner for the
fourth time, you're back where you started.
You know, other than being bogged down in a civil war and tons of
debt piled up, it's like we've gone all the way round back to when
doofus first took office.
Such a long ride to get nowhere...
The worst part of this whole mess is that since our army cannot fight a
decentralized enemy be it Vietcong or AlQaeda, Bush erected straw man
targets. First was the Taliban then Sadaam, neither of which attacked
us nor was any credible threat. Every serviceman and servicewoman who
has died in either of these campaigns has died in vain, died not
defending the US, died because some jackass still thinks he wears a
size 15 cowboy hat. Let us hope these men and women will be honored in
DC ala the Vietnam Memorial.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Back where we started... |
20 Jul 2007 07:16:43 PM |
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On 13 Jul 2007 20:17:48 GMT, GreyHairedFart <throwaway1833.hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnamljt6_LwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:34:38 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:zK-
dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Mark, it simple geography. Once you've turned the corner for the
fourth time, you're back where you started.
You know, other than being bogged down in a civil war and tons of
debt piled up, it's like we've gone all the way round back to when
doofus first took office.
Such a long ride to get nowhere...
The worst part of this whole mess is that since our army cannot fight a
decentralized enemy be it Vietcong or AlQaeda, Bush erected straw man
targets. First was the Taliban then Sadaam, neither of which attacked
us nor was any credible threat. Every serviceman and servicewoman who
has died in either of these campaigns has died in vain, died not
defending the US, died because some jackass still thinks he wears a
size 15 cowboy hat. Let us hope these men and women will be honored in
DC ala the Vietnam Memorial.
Won't matter since those men and women will remain dead and wouldn't
know if their name was scribed somewhere or not. They'd much rather be
hale and hearty rather than being in various states of decomposure.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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14 Jul 2007 01:58:08 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:17:48 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnamljt6_LwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:34:38 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:zK-
dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Mark, it simple geography. Once you've turned the corner for the
fourth time, you're back where you started.
You know, other than being bogged down in a civil war and tons of debt
piled up, it's like we've gone all the way round back to when doofus
first took office.
Such a long ride to get nowhere...
The worst part of this whole mess is that since our army cannot fight a
decentralized enemy be it Vietcong or AlQaeda, Bush erected straw man
targets. First was the Taliban then Sadaam, neither of which attacked us
nor was any credible threat. Every serviceman and servicewoman who has
died in either of these campaigns has died in vain, died not defending
the US, died because some jackass still thinks he wears a size 15 cowboy
hat. Let us hope these men and women will be honored in DC ala the
Vietnam Memorial.
Further, he's wrecking the military and causing a massive increase in the
number of vets that are going to need ongoing care.
The repercussions of that alone will echo for years... decades even...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Back where we started... |
20 Jul 2007 07:17:37 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:58:08 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:17:48 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnamljt6_LwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:34:38 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in news:zK-
dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Mark, it simple geography. Once you've turned the corner for the
fourth time, you're back where you started.
You know, other than being bogged down in a civil war and tons of debt
piled up, it's like we've gone all the way round back to when doofus
first took office.
Such a long ride to get nowhere...
The worst part of this whole mess is that since our army cannot fight a
decentralized enemy be it Vietcong or AlQaeda, Bush erected straw man
targets. First was the Taliban then Sadaam, neither of which attacked us
nor was any credible threat. Every serviceman and servicewoman who has
died in either of these campaigns has died in vain, died not defending
the US, died because some jackass still thinks he wears a size 15 cowboy
hat. Let us hope these men and women will be honored in DC ala the
Vietnam Memorial.
Further, he's wrecking the military and causing a massive increase in the
number of vets that are going to need ongoing care.
The repercussions of that alone will echo for years... decades even...
Bush states their sacrifices for his ego and stock portfolio is well
worth it.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "" |
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13 Jul 2007 08:37:08 AM |
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On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy Pakistan
to
and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all billion
muslims
will support Al Qaida.
Peter van Velzen
July 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jul 2007 12:13:26 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy Pakistan to
and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all billion muslims
will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while but it's
reaching the point where at least 70% of the public wouldn't believe him
if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or several.
But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean impeachment...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "GreyHairedFart throwaway1833.hotmail.com" |
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13 Jul 2007 03:25:34 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnailjt4rLwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy
Pakistan to and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all
billion muslims will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while but
it's reaching the point where at least 70% of the public wouldn't
believe him if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or
several. But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean
impeachment...
Not if they get to claim "they fired on us, we have to respond" And how
can they fire on us? Let's see how about three carrier groups, the USS
Enterprise, the USS Stennis and the USS Nimitz. If so much a Coke can
falls out of an Iranian fighter near these "targets", we be at war ah-
gain.
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| User: "" |
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13 Jul 2007 03:46:55 PM |
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On 13 jul, 22:25, GreyHairedFart <throwaway1833.hotmail.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote innews:L5Cdnailjt4rLwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy
Pakistan to and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all
billion muslims will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while but
it's reaching the point where at least 70% of the public wouldn't
believe him if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or
several. But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean
impeachment...
Not if they get to claim "they fired on us, we have to respond" And how
can they fire on us? Let's see how about three carrier groups, the USS
Enterprise, the USS Stennis and the USS Nimitz. If so much a Coke can
falls out of an Iranian fighter near these "targets", we be at war ah-
gain.- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
No doubt some ayatollah must have decided Coke is against the
Quran. . .
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jul 2007 07:45:10 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:25:34 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnailjt4rLwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy Pakistan
to and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all billion
muslims will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while but
it's reaching the point where at least 70% of the public wouldn't
believe him if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or
several. But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean impeachment...
Not if they get to claim "they fired on us, we have to respond" And how
can they fire on us? Let's see how about three carrier groups, the USS
Enterprise, the USS Stennis and the USS Nimitz. If so much a Coke can
falls out of an Iranian fighter near these "targets", we be at war ah-
gain.
And it will destroy the Bush presidency. Not to mention reduce the GOP to
minority status for the rest of our lives.
Think about it. Iran is much more important to the world oil market than
Iraq (not to mention being behind only Russia in the world's remaining
natural gas reserves). The oil market is so tight now, oil prices jump if
somebody in Nigeria sneezes.
Our last big run up was due--in major part--to Iran and the US making
snarky remarks at each other. If bombs start flying, you'll see $100+ per
barrell. Maybe upwards of $120-140. I would expect to see $4 per gallon
at the pump almost overnight. $5, maybe $6, after that.
Iran, if attacked, will no longer have any reason to refrain from
deliberately destabilizing the oil market. If you can't beat the giant in
a fist fight, cut him off at the knees. They could even go so far as to
strike oil fields in other countries. But wouldn't have to.
(And this is all ignoring them move seriously in Southern Iraq, one
expert commented the place would, "light up like a Christmas tree" if we
went after Iran).
I don't think the US economy can take a full blown oil "shock". There is
no way in hell businesses could absorb that much of a fuel increase,
they'd have to start raising prices. The consumer would be hit at the
pump and the grocery store.
Imagine how the public would react if it costs over $100 to fill up the
SUV...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
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| User: "GreyHairedFart throwaway1833.hotmail.com" |
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14 Jul 2007 08:23:54 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:U5udnRzgaOwLgQXbnZ2dnUVZ_vfinZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:25:34 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnailjt4rLwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy
Pakistan to and then Iran of course, which will just make sure
all billion muslims will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while
but it's reaching the point where at least 70% of the public
wouldn't believe him if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or
several. But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean
impeachment...
Not if they get to claim "they fired on us, we have to respond" And
how can they fire on us? Let's see how about three carrier groups,
the USS Enterprise, the USS Stennis and the USS Nimitz. If so much
a Coke can falls out of an Iranian fighter near these "targets", we
be at war ah- gain.
And it will destroy the Bush presidency. Not to mention reduce the
GOP to minority status for the rest of our lives.
Think about it. Iran is much more important to the world oil market
than Iraq (not to mention being behind only Russia in the world's
remaining natural gas reserves). The oil market is so tight now, oil
prices jump if somebody in Nigeria sneezes.
Our last big run up was due--in major part--to Iran and the US
making snarky remarks at each other. If bombs start flying, you'll
see $100+ per barrell. Maybe upwards of $120-140. I would expect to
see $4 per gallon at the pump almost overnight. $5, maybe $6, after
that.
Iran, if attacked, will no longer have any reason to refrain from
deliberately destabilizing the oil market. If you can't beat the
giant in a fist fight, cut him off at the knees. They could even go
so far as to strike oil fields in other countries. But wouldn't have
to.
(And this is all ignoring them move seriously in Southern Iraq, one
expert commented the place would, "light up like a Christmas tree"
if we went after Iran).
I don't think the US economy can take a full blown oil "shock".
There is no way in hell businesses could absorb that much of a fuel
increase, they'd have to start raising prices. The consumer would be
hit at the pump and the grocery store.
Imagine how the public would react if it costs over $100 to fill up
the SUV...
Your argument is quite logical and makes sense to a sane person. I just
don't think Bush is sane. He is on a mission to prove to Daddy that "I
ain't as stupid as a box of rocks". He doesn't care about impeachment,
the Dems are giving the Repubs professional courtesy. Once he has is
Presidential retirement fund, he won't care the system; look at OJ. And
gas can go to $20/gallon and he will still be able to buy. Yes the
Repubs will be toasted but will the Dems be able to clean up the mess,
probably not. But it won't matter to him, he is in own little world
where he is the great war hero fighting Vietnam from 12 time zones away
and Iraq from 8. This insane idiot will stick the fork in America for
sure.
--
Pro Life? Good, get one and stay out of mine.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Back where we started... |
20 Jul 2007 07:24:10 PM |
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On 14 Jul 2007 13:23:54 GMT, GreyHairedFart <throwaway1833.hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:U5udnRzgaOwLgQXbnZ2dnUVZ_vfinZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:25:34 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnailjt4rLwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy
Pakistan to and then Iran of course, which will just make sure
all billion muslims will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while
but it's reaching the point where at least 70% of the public
wouldn't believe him if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or
several. But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean
impeachment...
Not if they get to claim "they fired on us, we have to respond" And
how can they fire on us? Let's see how about three carrier groups,
the USS Enterprise, the USS Stennis and the USS Nimitz. If so much
a Coke can falls out of an Iranian fighter near these "targets", we
be at war ah- gain.
And it will destroy the Bush presidency. Not to mention reduce the
GOP to minority status for the rest of our lives.
Think about it. Iran is much more important to the world oil market
than Iraq (not to mention being behind only Russia in the world's
remaining natural gas reserves). The oil market is so tight now, oil
prices jump if somebody in Nigeria sneezes.
Our last big run up was due--in major part--to Iran and the US
making snarky remarks at each other. If bombs start flying, you'll
see $100+ per barrell. Maybe upwards of $120-140. I would expect to
see $4 per gallon at the pump almost overnight. $5, maybe $6, after
that.
Iran, if attacked, will no longer have any reason to refrain from
deliberately destabilizing the oil market. If you can't beat the
giant in a fist fight, cut him off at the knees. They could even go
so far as to strike oil fields in other countries. But wouldn't have
to.
(And this is all ignoring them move seriously in Southern Iraq, one
expert commented the place would, "light up like a Christmas tree"
if we went after Iran).
I don't think the US economy can take a full blown oil "shock".
There is no way in hell businesses could absorb that much of a fuel
increase, they'd have to start raising prices. The consumer would be
hit at the pump and the grocery store.
Imagine how the public would react if it costs over $100 to fill up
the SUV...
Your argument is quite logical and makes sense to a sane person. I just
don't think Bush is sane. He is on a mission to prove to Daddy that "I
ain't as stupid as a box of rocks".
Shrub will never reach that exhaulted state. The box of rocks snookers
him every time.
He doesn't care about impeachment,
the Dems are giving the Repubs professional courtesy. Once he has is
Presidential retirement fund, he won't care the system; look at OJ. And
gas can go to $20/gallon and he will still be able to buy. Yes the
Repubs will be toasted but will the Dems be able to clean up the mess,
probably not. But it won't matter to him, he is in own little world
where he is the great war hero fighting Vietnam from 12 time zones away
and Iraq from 8. This insane idiot will stick the fork in America for
sure.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| Title: Re: OT: Back where we started... |
14 Jul 2007 02:16:11 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:23:54 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:U5udnRzgaOwLgQXbnZ2dnUVZ_vfinZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:25:34 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:L5Cdnailjt4rLwrbnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at
pre-9/11 strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy
Pakistan to and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all
billion muslims will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while but
it's reaching the point where at least 70% of the public wouldn't
believe him if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or
several. But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean
impeachment...
Not if they get to claim "they fired on us, we have to respond" And
how can they fire on us? Let's see how about three carrier groups, the
USS Enterprise, the USS Stennis and the USS Nimitz. If so much a Coke
can falls out of an Iranian fighter near these "targets", we be at war
ah- gain.
And it will destroy the Bush presidency. Not to mention reduce the GOP
to minority status for the rest of our lives.
Think about it. Iran is much more important to the world oil market
than Iraq (not to mention being behind only Russia in the world's
remaining natural gas reserves). The oil market is so tight now, oil
prices jump if somebody in Nigeria sneezes.
Our last big run up was due--in major part--to Iran and the US making
snarky remarks at each other. If bombs start flying, you'll see $100+
per barrell. Maybe upwards of $120-140. I would expect to see $4 per
gallon at the pump almost overnight. $5, maybe $6, after that.
Iran, if attacked, will no longer have any reason to refrain from
deliberately destabilizing the oil market. If you can't beat the giant
in a fist fight, cut him off at the knees. They could even go so far as
to strike oil fields in other countries. But wouldn't have to.
(And this is all ignoring them move seriously in Southern Iraq, one
expert commented the place would, "light up like a Christmas tree" if
we went after Iran).
I don't think the US economy can take a full blown oil "shock". There
is no way in hell businesses could absorb that much of a fuel increase,
they'd have to start raising prices. The consumer would be hit at the
pump and the grocery store.
Imagine how the public would react if it costs over $100 to fill up the
SUV...
Your argument is quite logical and makes sense to a sane person. I just
don't think Bush is sane.
I don't either. And I do mean that literally. No sane person can be
*this* out of touch.
He is on a mission to prove to Daddy that "I
ain't as stupid as a box of rocks". He doesn't care about impeachment,
the Dems are giving the Repubs professional courtesy. Once he has is
Presidential retirement fund, he won't care the system; look at OJ. And
gas can go to $20/gallon and he will still be able to buy. Yes the
Repubs will be toasted but will the Dems be able to clean up the mess,
probably not. But it won't matter to him, he is in own little world
where he is the great war hero fighting Vietnam from 12 time zones away
and Iraq from 8. This insane idiot will stick the fork in America for
sure.
Yah but, if you order the driver to run the limo off the bridge, you're
going with him. Nerf World only extends so far and the money that
isolates people like Bush is at risk in the extreme scenarios.
Sure he could afford it but how's it going to get to him? Gasoline elves?
There's a massive infrastructure involved, populated and operated by us
little people. Extremely high gas prices will stall out the delivery of
goods.
Look at just Wal-Mart. They're a creature of cheap oil. Everything is
imported, trucked around, and pretty much nothing's local. How long would
they survive high gas prices? Not just from customers having to cut back
on purchases (and their customers are among the ones who'd be most hurt)
but from the sky rocketing costs of just getting things on the shelves.
How do the shelves get stocked if the $7/hour employees don't have any
money left for gas? How are all those 18 wheelers going to get on the
road? How much would a dollar tumble raise the price of imports? What
about the fuel factor in all that shipping?
How long would all that fabulous stock be worth much if anything at all?
A system like Wal-Mart could actually go *under* if prices were high over
a prolonged period.
Further, if things go bad enough, there's the problem that social order
itself could destabilize. All our ideals about things such as the "rule
of law" require a stability in society. If it came to something seriously
bad, you try telling the lynch mob they can't drag Bush out of his
Crawford retirement home and hang him without due process.
And I suspect he's not bright enough to flee the country before its too
late.
Though, I would *love* to see Bush and Cheney flee the country. That
would be *so* amusingly third world.
Even if things never got that bad, if the public were seriously angry,
forget the timidity you see in the Democrats now. They'd act out of
total, peeing their drawers, fear of a seriously riled public. Bush could
be our first president actually arrested and hauled out of the White
House.
If the lynch mob is marching your way--even metaphorically--the cowardly
way out is to join it. So I'd expect our Congresscritters to take the
cowardly way. <g>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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20 Jul 2007 07:29:10 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:16:11 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:23:54 +0000, GreyHairedFart wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
news:U5udnRzgaOwLgQXbnZ2dnUVZ_vfinZ2d@giganews.com:
[]
I don't think the US economy can take a full blown oil "shock". There
is no way in hell businesses could absorb that much of a fuel increase,
they'd have to start raising prices. The consumer would be hit at the
pump and the grocery store.
Imagine how the public would react if it costs over $100 to fill up the
SUV...
Your argument is quite logical and makes sense to a sane person. I just
don't think Bush is sane.
I don't either. And I do mean that literally. No sane person can be
*this* out of touch.
He is on a mission to prove to Daddy that "I
ain't as stupid as a box of rocks". He doesn't care about impeachment,
the Dems are giving the Repubs professional courtesy. Once he has is
Presidential retirement fund, he won't care the system; look at OJ. And
gas can go to $20/gallon and he will still be able to buy. Yes the
Repubs will be toasted but will the Dems be able to clean up the mess,
probably not. But it won't matter to him, he is in own little world
where he is the great war hero fighting Vietnam from 12 time zones away
and Iraq from 8. This insane idiot will stick the fork in America for
sure.
Yah but, if you order the driver to run the limo off the bridge, you're
going with him. Nerf World only extends so far and the money that
isolates people like Bush is at risk in the extreme scenarios.
Sure he could afford it but how's it going to get to him? Gasoline elves?
There's a massive infrastructure involved, populated and operated by us
little people. Extremely high gas prices will stall out the delivery of
goods.
Look at just Wal-Mart. They're a creature of cheap oil. Everything is
imported, trucked around, and pretty much nothing's local. How long would
they survive high gas prices? Not just from customers having to cut back
on purchases (and their customers are among the ones who'd be most hurt)
but from the sky rocketing costs of just getting things on the shelves.
Why else do you think they're working feverishly to diversify?
How do the shelves get stocked if the $7/hour employees don't have any
money left for gas? How are all those 18 wheelers going to get on the
road? How much would a dollar tumble raise the price of imports? What
about the fuel factor in all that shipping?
How long would all that fabulous stock be worth much if anything at all?
A system like Wal-Mart could actually go *under* if prices were high over
a prolonged period.
Further, if things go bad enough, there's the problem that social order
itself could destabilize. All our ideals about things such as the "rule
of law" require a stability in society. If it came to something seriously
bad, you try telling the lynch mob they can't drag Bush out of his
Crawford retirement home and hang him without due process.
There wouldn't be enough troops to protect him.
And I suspect he's not bright enough to flee the country before its too
late.
It's already too late. By that, I mean, going to another country simply
puts him closer to millions of others who'd love to 'meet' him.
Though, I would *love* to see Bush and Cheney flee the country. That
would be *so* amusingly third world.
Even if things never got that bad, if the public were seriously angry,
forget the timidity you see in the Democrats now. They'd act out of
total, peeing their drawers, fear of a seriously riled public. Bush could
be our first president actually arrested and hauled out of the White
House.
If the lynch mob is marching your way--even metaphorically--the cowardly
way out is to join it. So I'd expect our Congresscritters to take the
cowardly way. <g>
It's the [cough] 'Honorable' route.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Jul 2007 07:20:58 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:13:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:37:08 -0700, wrote:
On 12 jul, 13:52, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
I am afraid some people will think the solution is to occupy Pakistan to
and then Iran of course, which will just make sure all billion muslims
will support Al Qaida.
Nobody's listening to Bush anymore. It took people here a while but it's
reaching the point where at least 70% of the public wouldn't believe him
if he said the sky was blue.
The neoconartists aren't getting another war. They want one. Or several.
But they ain't gettin' it.
Not unless they pull something *so* egregious it'll mean impeachment...
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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20 Jul 2007 09:27:18 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Jul 2007 03:17:18 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Jul 2007 04:18:20 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:17:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
You mean several OTHER scapegoat groups. Fighting to repel invaders
doesn't make you radical.
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| User: "stoney" |
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05 Aug 2007 02:56:33 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:18:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:17:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
You mean several OTHER scapegoat groups. Fighting to repel invaders
doesn't make you radical.
Tell that to da Shrub.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Aug 2007 08:00:23 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:56:33 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:18:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:17:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
You mean several OTHER scapegoat groups. Fighting to repel invaders
doesn't make you radical.
Tell that to da Shrub.
I gave up that career (teaching children) a long time ago.
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Aug 2007 09:28:39 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:00:23 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:56:33 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:18:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:17:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
You mean several OTHER scapegoat groups. Fighting to repel invaders
doesn't make you radical.
Tell that to da Shrub.
I gave up that career (teaching children) a long time ago.
Shrub went to the special school named for Terri Shivao(sp). It
really was a no-brainer.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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09 Aug 2007 07:55:08 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:28:39 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:00:23 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:56:33 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:18:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:17:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
You mean several OTHER scapegoat groups. Fighting to repel invaders
doesn't make you radical.
Tell that to da Shrub.
I gave up that career (teaching children) a long time ago.
Shrub went to the special school named for Terri Shivao(sp). It
really was a no-brainer.
<chortle>
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| User: "stoney" |
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11 Aug 2007 08:51:06 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:55:08 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:28:39 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:00:23 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:56:33 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:18:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:17:18 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:18 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:58 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
No, Mark, their nuking Kansas City (yes) wouldn't mean impeachment
either.
Of course not - they'll blame it on some radical Moslems.
Or several scapegoat groups.
You mean several OTHER scapegoat groups. Fighting to repel invaders
doesn't make you radical.
Tell that to da Shrub.
I gave up that career (teaching children) a long time ago.
Shrub went to the special school named for Terri Shivao(sp). It
really was a no-brainer.
<chortle>
Thankee kindly. ;)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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12 Jul 2007 07:37:31 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
But the measure that counts, Cheney's net worth, has increased
unbelievably.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Jul 2007 08:22:48 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:37:31 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
But the measure that counts, Cheney's net worth, has increased
unbelievably.
Well then, mission accomplished!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Jul 2007 06:17:02 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote in alt.atheism
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
Bush enhanced them for his own prophet.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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12 Jul 2007 09:40:44 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <zK-dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
But the Surge is working and OBL does not matter.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Syd M." |
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12 Jul 2007 12:39:27 PM |
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On Jul 12, 10:40 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<g...@com.mkbilbo> in <zK-dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXin...@giganews.com>
wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
But the Surge is working and OBL does not matter.
Neither do the Iraqies..
PDW
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 Jul 2007 08:01:14 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:40:44 +0000, Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:52:00 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <zK-dnYutGdx9iAvbnZ2dnUVZ_uXinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Thousands of lives, billions of dollars, and Al Qaeda is "at pre-9/11
strength".
http://tinyurl.com/22z7bz
The summary document is titled:
"Al-Qaida better positioned to strike the West"
Sounds familiar somehow...
But the Surge is working and OBL does not matter.
And we can't go get OBL in Pakistan because we don't invade soveriegn
nations.
(It's what Rove said)
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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