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"towelie" |
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15 Mar 2007 02:44:31 AM |
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OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 05:53:36 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black?
I don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton
was.
Or Bush.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
As a set of cognitive beliefs, religion is a speculative hypothesis of an
extremely low order of probability.
-- Sidney Hook, The Partisan Review, March 1950
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 06:21:13 PM |
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Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in
news:Xns98F4A1D85F8F9255229@130.133.1.4:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about
his intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because
he's black? I don't remember them rambling on and on about how
intelligent Clinton was.
Or Bush.
Bush wasn't a Fullbright scholar. Clinton was.
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"What is the first law?"
"To Protect."
"And the second?"
"Ourselves."
Terry Austin
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
16 Mar 2007 12:51:28 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:21:13 -0000, in alt.atheism , No 33 Secretary
<terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> in
<Xns98F4A65B36DD8taustingmail@216.168.3.64> wrote:
Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in
news:Xns98F4A1D85F8F9255229@130.133.1.4:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about
his intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because
he's black? I don't remember them rambling on and on about how
intelligent Clinton was.
Or Bush.
Bush wasn't a Fullbright scholar. Clinton was.
And there were many stories about how smart both of the Clintons are.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 06:01:10 PM |
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On 15 Mar 2007 22:53:36 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black?
I don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton
was.
Or Bush.
??
Was that a joke? ??
I mean, clearly you can't be serious, but... well... it doesn't really
seem like it was meant to be funny, so you've thrown me for a loop.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
16 Mar 2007 10:22:52 AM |
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Uncle Clover <UncleClover@NowhereNow.com> wrote in
news:50kjv21622i3sh54tqs102ativ888s47ra@4ax.com:
On 15 Mar 2007 22:53:36 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's
black?
I don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent
Clinton
was.
Or Bush.
??
Was that a joke? ??
I mean, clearly you can't be serious, but... well... it doesn't really
seem like it was meant to be funny, so you've thrown me for a loop.
It was a joke! Has anyone, anywhere, anytime said Bush was particularly
bright?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have forgotten
your aim."
George Santayana (1863-1952) The Life of Reason, 1905.
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
16 Mar 2007 04:29:05 PM |
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On 16 Mar 2007 15:22:52 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:
Uncle Clover <UncleClover@NowhereNow.com> wrote in
news:50kjv21622i3sh54tqs102ativ888s47ra@4ax.com:
On 15 Mar 2007 22:53:36 GMT, Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote:
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's
black?
I don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent
Clinton
was.
Or Bush.
??
Was that a joke? ??
I mean, clearly you can't be serious, but... well... it doesn't really
seem like it was meant to be funny, so you've thrown me for a loop.
It was a joke! Has anyone, anywhere, anytime said Bush was particularly
bright?
No. Just the opposite, in fact. Which was why I didn't get why it
was supposed to seem funny, I guess. But I'll take your word for it -
there are certain kinds of humor I just don't get, this must be one of
them.
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| User: "Sean C" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
20 Mar 2007 10:53:58 PM |
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In article <25GdnZAxZtb_ZGXYnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@centurytel.net>, towelie
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
There seems to be a not-so-subtle racism at play here, as Obama is also
described as "articulate." I don't know of too many politicans who
aren't articulate, and even Bush can string a coherent sentence
together from time to time. But Obama's no Cicero, and he's not an
Einstein either, so I don't see the need to continually point out that
he's intellgent and articulate unless it is due to a fascination or
surprise that a black guy can talk and think.
--Sean C
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 03:06:03 AM |
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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
I think its because of the obvious contrast to Bush and 75% of
republican politicians.
They always talked about Clintons charm - not that he is not
inteligent - just that you are to busy noticing his charm to notice
that he is inteligent.
Cheers, Mark.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 09:06:51 AM |
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1173945963.503802.287580@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
I think its because of the obvious contrast to Bush and 75% of
republican politicians.
It will be interesting to see how those who work with Bush cast him after
he's out of office. I'll bet it comes out that cabinet meetings are
dominated by others and when it's time for a decision, he looks over to
Cheney.
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 03:13:28 AM |
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Richo wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's
black? I don't remember them rambling on and on about how
intelligent Clinton was.
I think its because of the obvious contrast to Bush and 75% of
republican politicians.
Hillary is intelligent. John Edwards is intelligent. So are Al Gore and
many other Democrats. You never see the media talking about their
intelligence. But they always seem to point out that Barack is intelligent.
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 03:31:47 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:13:28 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Richo wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's
black? I don't remember them rambling on and on about how
intelligent Clinton was.
I think its because of the obvious contrast to Bush and 75% of
republican politicians.
Hillary is intelligent. John Edwards is intelligent. So are Al Gore and
many other Democrats. You never see the media talking about their
intelligence. But they always seem to point out that Barack is intelligent.
Believe it or not, I'd say a lot of that is his own PR machine doing
its job for him. Hillary et al may not feel the need to emphasize
that aspect of their person at this time.
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 08:42:02 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:31:47 -0400, Uncle Clover
<UncleClover@NowhereNow.com> wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:13:28 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Richo wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's
black? I don't remember them rambling on and on about how
intelligent Clinton was.
I think its because of the obvious contrast to Bush and 75% of
republican politicians.
Hillary is intelligent. John Edwards is intelligent. So are Al Gore and
many other Democrats. You never see the media talking about their
intelligence. But they always seem to point out that Barack is intelligent.
Believe it or not, I'd say a lot of that is his own PR machine doing
its job for him. Hillary et al may not feel the need to emphasize
that aspect of their person at this time.
For women, intellegence is a negative PR thang. It pisses off too
many men.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 10:30:56 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:13:28 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Richo wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "towelie" <bugoNOS...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's
black? I don't remember them rambling on and on about how
intelligent Clinton was.
I think its because of the obvious contrast to Bush and 75% of
republican politicians.
Hillary is intelligent. John Edwards is intelligent. So are Al Gore and
many other Democrats. You never see the media talking about their
intelligence. But they always seem to point out that Barack is intelligent.
The press did talk about both Clintons being intelligent.
And Al Gore who is probably, as far as IQ goes, brighter than most of
them except maybe for Bill.
But Biden came across as being patronizing and frankly Obama handled
it very well.
Its going to be interesting to see if he can maintain his grace under
fire in the process he's going to have to go through.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 10:21:09 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:44:31 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
Biden also said he's "clean."
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
15 Mar 2007 10:49:14 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:21:09 -0500, in alt.atheism
atheist@home.com wrote in <h73kv29h0rru4o0otdskdfklnktp2v5hbb@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:44:31 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
Biden also said he's "clean."
Joe's kind of a small town banker who tries so hard to be a regular guy.
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| User: "" |
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16 Mar 2007 03:15:06 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:49:14 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:21:09 -0500, in alt.atheism
atheist@home.com wrote in <h73kv29h0rru4o0otdskdfklnktp2v5hbb@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:44:31 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
Biden also said he's "clean."
Joe's kind of a small town banker who tries so hard to be a regular guy.
Heh..He's been around a long, long time.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barack Obama and intelligence |
16 Mar 2007 03:30:35 AM |
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On or about Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:44:31 -0500 did "towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> dribble thusly:
Why do so many stories about Sen. Obama insist on talking about his
intelligence. Of course he's intelligent. Is it because he's black? I
don't remember them rambling on and on about how intelligent Clinton was.
Exactly. You don't remember.
You zero in on remarks about Obama's intelligence because you had this
notion, but didn't pay attention to any of the zillions of times other
candidates are referred to as intelligent (even when they're not).
--
- Mike
Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
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