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19 Jan 2005 09:38:06 AM |
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OT: Barbara Boxer |
Democrat attacks Rice over claims of 'mushroom cloud'
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=602278
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
19 January 2005
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
Andrew Buncombe
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/8188791db5daf544
Condoleezza Rice
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c04d859b9b0db70b
Barbara Boxer
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| User: "duke" |
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19 Jan 2005 11:20:25 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
duke
In God We Trust
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Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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20 Jan 2005 05:56:31 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:20:25 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
That would be Senator Boxer to you, peon.
and out here in California, we're cheering for her. Most people in
the country are turning against this war based on lies, and Dr. Rice
deserved to get grilled.
Did you notice the the GOP chairman of the committee never once
stepped in to save Dr. Rice's butt? He let Sen. Boxer run free. That
says something.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jan 2005 07:25:49 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:14svu0182lfbv1vt5nvil5iu02drmtvkab@4ax.com:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:20:25 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of
her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
That would be Senator Boxer to you, peon.
and out here in California, we're cheering for her. Most people in
the country are turning against this war based on lies, and Dr. Rice
deserved to get grilled.
Strange then that you don't seem to mind the opposition to the war being
"based on lies" as well.
Did you notice the the GOP chairman of the committee never once
stepped in to save Dr. Rice's butt? He let Sen. Boxer run free. That
says something.
No it doesn't. Boxer had her time to speak and her lies only convicted
herself, not Rice.
http://www.crushkerry.com/article-411--0-0.html
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Fred Stone
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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20 Jan 2005 07:53:52 PM |
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In article <Xns95E492D0493A3fstone69@205.188.138.161>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Strange then that you don't seem to mind the opposition to the war being
"based on lies" as well.
Like these?
10/5/02 - [Bush]: "The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces
chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know
that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents,
including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas...And surveillance
photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities that it had used
to produce chemical and biological weapons."
2/5/04 after NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE FOUND IN IRAQ -
[Bush]: "...Knowing what I knew then, and knowing what I know today,
America did the right thing in Iraq..."
9/25/02 - [Bush]: "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam
when you talk about the war on terror."
9/17/03 - [Bush]: "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was
involved in Sept. 11."
5/1/03 - [Bush]: "...Combat operations in Iraq have ended."
8/25/03 - [Bush]: "...We still have combat operations going on..."
There are many more.
-chib
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jan 2005 08:00:15 PM |
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chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote in
news:200120051153521714%chib@outreach.com:
In article <Xns95E492D0493A3fstone69@205.188.138.161>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Strange then that you don't seem to mind the opposition to the war
being "based on lies" as well.
Like these?
10/5/02 - [Bush]: "The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces
chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We
know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical
agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas...And
surveillance photos reveal that the regime is rebuilding facilities
that it had used to produce chemical and biological weapons."
The above is known to be true. See the Duelfer report.
2/5/04 after NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WERE FOUND IN IRAQ -
[Bush]: "...Knowing what I knew then, and knowing what I know today,
America did the right thing in Iraq..."
That's not a lie either.
9/25/02 - [Bush]: "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam
when you talk about the war on terror."
9/17/03 - [Bush]: "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was
involved in Sept. 11."
Those two statements are not contradictory.
5/1/03 - [Bush]: "...Combat operations in Iraq have ended."
That is a deceptively quoted comment.
8/25/03 - [Bush]: "...We still have combat operations going on..."
There are many more.
-chib
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Fred Stone
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| User: "duke" |
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20 Jan 2005 11:38:15 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:56:31 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:20:25 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
That would be Senator Boxer to you, peon.
That would be bababox to you, peon.
and out here in California, we're cheering for her. Most people in
the country are turning against this war based on lies, and Dr. Rice
deserved to get grilled.
Grilling is no problem - it's fair, but it was done by bababox
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
Did you notice the the GOP chairman of the committee never once
stepped in to save Dr. Rice's butt? He let Sen. Boxer run free. That
says something.
I repeat - grilling is not a problem, but bababox stepped over the line.
Now just think what future engagements will be like. GOP rejecting 'rats, 'rats rejecting
GOP. Not because it means anything to the country but out of sheer ugliness - all because
the selected can't respond back to the elected. It has the possibility of making a sham
of the democratic process, and it was started by, who else, the 'rats.
Is it coming down to the country being run by the 1% in the dead middle?
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:38:15 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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22 Jan 2005 01:26:04 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:38:15 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
Yes. But not for that.
Isn't impersonating an intelligent being a crime?
--
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Jan 2005 01:39:56 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:26:04 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:38:15 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
Yes. But not for that.
Isn't impersonating an intelligent being a crime?
Hatchet woman bababox doesn't care how she acts.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Jan 2005 07:23:14 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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21 Jan 2005 11:22:31 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
Appointments are only rubber-stamped in dictatorships, Earl.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 Jan 2005 01:46:00 AM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:0l33v0ttnh5996grlk4ofc256ljklobdaa@4ax.com:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You elected her to lie and act petty?
Appointments are only rubber-stamped in dictatorships, Earl.
--
Fred Stone
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| User: "Kate " |
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22 Jan 2005 06:28:12 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:0l33v0ttnh5996grlk4ofc256ljklobdaa@4ax.com:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You elected her to lie and act petty?
Nope I elected her to do what she did. Stand up for the truth and not
stand for bullying liars.
Appointments are only rubber-stamped in dictatorships, Earl.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 Jan 2005 06:38:15 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:4203f1a6.120404234@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:0l33v0ttnh5996grlk4ofc256ljklobdaa@4ax.com:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be
ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously
questioning a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You elected her to lie and act petty?
Nope I elected her to do what she did. Stand up for the truth and not
stand for bullying liars.
Too bad she didn't do either of those things.
Boxer was, unfortunately, not the only bullying liar among the
Democrats.
--
Fred Stone
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| User: "Kate " |
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22 Jan 2005 10:40:05 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:38:15 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:4203f1a6.120404234@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:0l33v0ttnh5996grlk4ofc256ljklobdaa@4ax.com:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be
ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously
questioning a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You elected her to lie and act petty?
Nope I elected her to do what she did. Stand up for the truth and not
stand for bullying liars.
Too bad she didn't do either of those things.
Then you will have just be wrong. LOL.
Boxer was, unfortunately, not the only bullying liar among the
Democrats.
My, aren't you the sensitive type. Perhaps you have some tendre' for
the uh.. comely Miss Rice. Poor baby, somebody called her on her
lies. How dreadful. How mean, how exactly what she deserved and
didn't get nearly enough of.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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23 Jan 2005 12:09:53 AM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:420bd548.178678062@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:38:15 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
(Kate ) wrote in
news:4203f1a6.120404234@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:0l33v0ttnh5996grlk4ofc256ljklobdaa@4ax.com:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be
ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being
little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously
questioning a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You elected her to lie and act petty?
Nope I elected her to do what she did. Stand up for the truth and
not stand for bullying liars.
Too bad she didn't do either of those things.
Then you will have just be wrong. LOL.
I'm afraid that the facts are not on your side on this one, Kate.
Boxer was, unfortunately, not the only bullying liar among the
Democrats.
My, aren't you the sensitive type. Perhaps you have some tendre' for
the uh.. comely Miss Rice. Poor baby, somebody called her on her
lies. How dreadful. How mean, how exactly what she deserved and
didn't get nearly enough of.
Oh my, aren't *you* the gullible type. Democrats can do no wrong, eh?
Maybe you've got a "thing" for bitchy white females?
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Fred Stone
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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22 Jan 2005 04:04:01 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:22:31 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> said in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:23:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:13:45 GMT, Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Shame on her, and anyone that calls her US Senator.
President Bush addresses her as Senator Boxer, should he be ashamed?
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
Appointments are only rubber-stamped in dictatorships, Earl.
And Earl and Empty-Hat would like nothing better than if this were a
Christian dictatorship. (Of course, Earl would want it to be a ROMAN
CATHOLIC dictatorship, something less likely to happen than that Bush
returns the country to democracy.)
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"Christianity has already had the chance to govern
the world according to its own ethical standards.
It was called the "Dark Ages".
- Bill, The Avender
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Jan 2005 01:38:26 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:22:31 GMT, Douglas Berry
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You mean the appointed 'rat hatchet woman for 2005?
'rat bababox was out of line.
Appointments are only rubber-stamped in dictatorships, Earl.
She is this year's rubber-stamped hatchet woman.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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22 Jan 2005 04:54:51 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:38:26 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:22:31 GMT, Douglas Berry
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You mean the appointed 'rat hatchet woman for 2005?
Ypou know, it's amazing how you are incapable of talking about women
without getting insulting. some deep-seated issues there, Earl.
'rat bababox was out of line.
So why didn't the GOP chair stop her? Had she been out of line, Sen
Lugar could have cut her off at any time.
I'll go woth the opinion of the chairman of the committee over that of
a draft-dodging coward like you.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Jan 2005 08:04:50 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:54:51 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:38:26 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:22:31 GMT, Douglas Berry
He's the president. He's being big about it. She was being little.
She was doing the job we elected her to do, and vigorously questioning
a woman nominated for a cabinet post.
You mean the appointed 'rat hatchet woman for 2005?
Ypou know, it's amazing how you are incapable of talking about women
without getting insulting. some deep-seated issues there, Earl.
Hey, she's a woman. I can't call her a man. If john boy kerry had done it, I
wouldn't have called him a woman.
'rat bababox was out of line.
So why didn't the GOP chair stop her? Had she been out of line, Sen
Lugar could have cut her off at any time.
And give the cry baby obstructionists 'rats a chance to complain about not being
able to speak?
I'll go woth the opinion of the chairman of the committee over that of
a draft-dodging coward like you.
I didn't dodge the draft. Didn't high school harry yang tell you that?
duke
In God We Trust
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Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barbara Boxer |
20 Jan 2005 09:00:57 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was
yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of
her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
You must be talking about Confederate and Christian fascist terrorists.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barbara Boxer |
20 Jan 2005 11:03:51 AM |
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On 20 Jan 2005 01:00:57 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was
yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of
her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
You must be talking about Confederate and Christian fascist terrorists.
No, a California woman named Baba Boxer.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barbara Boxer |
21 Jan 2005 01:48:09 AM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:03:51 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 01:00:57 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was
yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part of
her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a "very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
You must be talking about Confederate and Christian fascist terrorists.
No, a California woman named Baba Boxer.
No idiot, he was talking about who 'everyone' was.
You hardly speak for everyone. You hardly manage to think.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barbara Boxer |
21 Jan 2005 07:22:03 PM |
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On 20 Jan 2005 19:48:09 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
No, a California woman named Baba Boxer.
No idiot, he was talking about who 'everyone' was.
You hardly speak for everyone. You hardly manage to think.
A snake no less.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barbara Boxer |
22 Jan 2005 08:22:33 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 19:48:09 -0600, (Kate ) wrote:
No, a California woman named Baba Boxer.
No idiot, he was talking about who 'everyone' was.
You hardly speak for everyone. You hardly manage to think.
A snake no less.
Are you talking about Christian fascist Earle?
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Barbara Boxer |
20 Jan 2005 11:20:51 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 01:00:57 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
duke wrote:
On 19 Jan 2005 01:38:06 -0800, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Condoleezza Rice, a leading cheerleader of the war in Iraq and
President George Bush's nominee for Secretary of State, was
yesterday
accused of misleading the American people over the threat posed
by
Saddam Hussein and his alleged weapons of mass destruction.
Appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee as part
of
her
confirmation process, Ms Rice was accused of contradicting
comments
made by both herself and the President about Saddam's nuclear
capabilities. Her contradictions, it was said, constituted a
"very
troubling" pattern.
And everyone agreed Baba Boxer was out of line.
You must be talking about Confederate and Christian fascist
terrorists.
No, a California woman named Baba Boxer.
Nah. A Confederate Christian fascist named Earle.
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Turn your back was Barbara Boxer |
23 Jan 2005 07:07:29 PM |
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http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-nyhen214121505jan21,0,6136269.column?coll=ny-news-columnists
A real patriot sends a silent message
Ellis Henican
January 21, 2005
It's always the men who've never fought one who call the loudest for
war. It's the quiet dissent that tends to come from men who have.
Men like Alex Ryabov.
Alex is 22 years old. He was born in Ukraine and moved as a child to
Ocean Parkway in Brooklyn. When he was old enough, he was proud to
join the Marines. Without complaint, he went off to fight in Operation
Iraqi Freedom, the hopeful name the Bush administration gave to the
early part of the war. This gung-ho corporal was ammo chief for
R-battery, 5th Battalion, 10th Regiment, a legendarily tough artillery
unit that brought giant howitzers into war. R-battery seemed to be
everywhere when U.S. troops rolled across Iraq.
"We moved in from the Kuwait-Iraq border," Alex was recalling
yesterday. "Fired into Nasiriyah. Fired into Baghdad. We kept on
firing all the way to Tikrit."
The war comes alive when he talks. But as Alex spoke yesterday, he was
about as far as you could get from those battered Iraqi cities and the
people on both sides who died there. He was standing at Constitution
Avenue and Third Street in the heart of downtown Washington, waiting
for his former commander-in-chief to roll by.
Four blocks away at the Capitol, George W. Bush had delivered an
especially pugnacious inaugural address. It was wrapped in the
sentimental language of modern politics. But the meaning was
infinitely clear, as far-reaching and as bellicose as any inaugural
ever. Bush sketched out his second-term vision for America, a nation
with an almost moral duty to topple whatever governments don't meet
our definition of free.
"It is the policy of the United States," Bush announced, "to seek and
support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every
nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our
world. ... America's influence is considerable, and we will use it
confidently in freedom's cause."
What nations come next? When will persuasion give way to invasion?
Which allies will join us? Where will we get the troops? Bush didn't
say. But he left no doubt in the crisp Washington air: If he has his
way, Iraq won't be his last war.
With his curly, close-cropped hair and his favorite camouflage pants,
Alex Ryabov wasn't the only military man who felt a need to register
dissent yesterday. These soldiers with doubts are still a minority in
the military. But their numbers are growing. Their boldness, too. And
they were a surprising part of yesterday's presidential inaugural
events.
Said Alex: "The president told us Iraq was a threat to our freedom.
But how much of a threat could it be if we could take the capital in
three weeks? I knew I had to come down from New York and stand with
other veterans in the cold. We had to say, 'No, this doesn't make any
sense.'"
It is not easy for a military man to talk like that. No gung-ho Marine
from Brooklyn is raised to protest wars. But it's been truly
heartening, Alex said, to meet so many others - soldiers still, but
soldiers who've learned from all they've seen.
"When I got back from Iraq," he said, "I didn't know so many veterans
were thinking like I was. More and more are coming forward every day."
He didn't shout when the president's limousine passed.
He didn't wave a sign or demand impeachment.
In fact, to be precise about it, he didn't say anything at all.
But yesterday afternoon, at the corner of Constitution and Third, Alex
Ryabov - and quite a few others, too - turned their backs in silent
protest as the president rode by.
It was hard to know if Bush even saw them through the smoky glass of
his limousine. But the president's security detail apparently did. The
car sped up noticeably just as it passed the vets.
Others in the crowd noticed, too. Not all of them were charmed.
A few scattered boos from the bleachers behind them.
A couple of stocky fellows in cowboy hats stormed up.
"You have to honor the dead," one of the cowboy hats called out.
"Those dead were our friends," Alex told him, soft but direct. "This
is personal for us."
The man didn't seem to know who he'd been taunting. "Oh, OK," he said,
before turning and walking off.
"I think it was very symbolic," Alex Ryabov said later, after the
inaugural parade had passed. "A lot of people came here today to see
the president and cheer him and all that stuff. That's OK. But we
thought it was important to say not everybody agrees with that. Some
people think this war is a very bad thing. People who've been there
and know.
"No, Mr. President, we don't support what you are doing. We won't
pretend we do."
Copyright © 2005, Newsday, Inc.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| Title: Re: OT: Turn your back was Barbara Boxer |
23 Jan 2005 10:40:27 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:07:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
"No, Mr. President, we don't support what you are doing. We won't
pretend we do."
Then there's chickenshit Earl.
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- Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Turn your back was Barbara Boxer |
24 Jan 2005 10:39:43 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:40:27 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:07:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:
"No, Mr. President, we don't support what you are doing. We won't
pretend we do."
Then there's chickenshit Earl.
And the rest of the cast of cowards.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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