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"Therion Ware" |
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29 May 2005 02:08:24 AM |
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OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
The Catholic Church has decided to use beer mats and posters as part
of a campaign to recruit more priests.
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor will highlight the problem in his
Westminster diocese in a letter to be read to church congregations.
The cardinal will tell people that the sharp decline in the number of
priests means that church-goers must play a bigger part in running
their parishes.
He will also say many parishes may have to cope without a resident
priest.
Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor will make the plea in Westminster on Sunday,
as part of ambitious plans to reform the diocese.
If the changes are made in Westminster, the seat of the Catholic
Church in England and Wales, it could spark similar changes in
parishes all over Britain.
The Church is launching a recruitment campaign that will use beermats
in pubs and posters on the London Underground to promote the
priesthood.
Beermats and posters
The number of priests working at Westminster has fallen from 850 in
1990 to 600 this year. The number is expected to decline to 470 over
the next decade.
Under new proposals, lay ministers may be allowed to live in clergy
houses in areas where priests are not present, and be able to run
weekday services.
Some responses to a consultation said priests should be allowed to
marry, but Cardinal Murphy O'Connor said the Catholic Church as a
whole would have to change such a policy.
We still have the third or fourth best ratio of Catholic priests to
Catholic population in the world
Father Ray Lyons
Catholic priest Father Ray Lyons told the BBC News website:
"Involvement of the laity is a right and responsibility because of
their baptism, regardless of the decline of priests.
"Ninety-nine percent of the church is the laity, they pay for
everything."
Fr Lyons said there had been a doubling in numbers of Catholic priests
in the UK between 1945 and 1977, and numbers were falling to the level
they had been at in 1940.
"We still have the third or fourth best ratio of Catholic priests to
Catholic population in the world," he said.
There was a priest for every 850 Catholics in the UK, compared to one
for every 20,000 in Brazil, he added.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Published: 2005/05/29 00:28:54 GMT
© BBC MMV
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| User: "Larry Heath" |
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| Title: Re: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
29 May 2005 11:42:01 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:cfqi91th2ue22tm31njsb7h4811cqnvlmu@4ax.com...
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
The Catholic Church has decided to use beer mats and posters as part
of a campaign to recruit more priests.
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor will highlight the problem in his
Westminster diocese in a letter to be read to church congregations.
The cardinal will tell people that the sharp decline in the number of
priests means that church-goers must play a bigger part in running
their parishes.
He will also say many parishes may have to cope without a resident
priest.
Cardinal Murphy-O'Connor will make the plea in Westminster on Sunday,
as part of ambitious plans to reform the diocese.
If the changes are made in Westminster, the seat of the Catholic
Church in England and Wales, it could spark similar changes in
parishes all over Britain.
The Church is launching a recruitment campaign that will use beermats
in pubs and posters on the London Underground to promote the
priesthood.
Beermats and posters
The number of priests working at Westminster has fallen from 850 in
1990 to 600 this year. The number is expected to decline to 470 over
the next decade.
Under new proposals, lay ministers may be allowed to live in clergy
houses in areas where priests are not present, and be able to run
weekday services.
Some responses to a consultation said priests should be allowed to
marry, but Cardinal Murphy O'Connor said the Catholic Church as a
whole would have to change such a policy.
We still have the third or fourth best ratio of Catholic priests to
Catholic population in the world
Father Ray Lyons
Catholic priest Father Ray Lyons told the BBC News website:
"Involvement of the laity is a right and responsibility because of
their baptism, regardless of the decline of priests.
"Ninety-nine percent of the church is the laity, they pay for
everything."
Fr Lyons said there had been a doubling in numbers of Catholic priests
in the UK between 1945 and 1977, and numbers were falling to the level
they had been at in 1940.
"We still have the third or fourth best ratio of Catholic priests to
Catholic population in the world," he said.
There was a priest for every 850 Catholics in the UK, compared to one
for every 20,000 in Brazil, he added.
Man aren't them Brazilians lucky!
Any Brazilians out there willing to tells us how you are getting rid of
these vermin?
Later Larry
aa # 2216
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
29 May 2005 12:54:12 PM |
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Larry Heath wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:cfqi91th2ue22tm31njsb7h4811cqnvlmu@4ax.com...
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
<snip>
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There was a priest for every 850 Catholics in the UK, compared to one
for every 20,000 in Brazil, he added.
Man aren't them Brazilians lucky!
Any Brazilians out there willing to tells us how you are getting rid
of these vermin?
Possibly by applying the motto of IBM.
THINK.
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
30 May 2005 11:25:23 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Larry Heath wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:cfqi91th2ue22tm31njsb7h4811cqnvlmu@4ax.com...
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
<snip>
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There was a priest for every 850 Catholics in the UK, compared to one
for every 20,000 in Brazil, he added.
Man aren't them Brazilians lucky!
Any Brazilians out there willing to tells us how you are getting rid
of these vermin?
Possibly by applying the motto of IBM.
THINK.
Many Brazilians have long been involved with other religions,
for example, Macumba, a sort of African polytheism combined
with Catholicism.
Up to the early 80's it was illegal. In the 70's and 80's
a number of cult like religions exploded across Brazil, including
a large and active UFO cult that in some places became popular
enough to elect mayors and other politicians to office.
Embarressingly, many of them turned out to be more competent
than former politicians they replaced.
http://www.llewellyn.com/archive/fate/65/
I have no idea of what ever happned to that, they may still
be going strong for all I know.
In large parts of rural Brazil, churches are all but unknown.
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Barry Trotter" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
29 May 2005 03:13:07 AM |
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In the great debate about "OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests!" in
alt.atheism, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> catapaulted the
following boulder:
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
Wouldn't they get more luck advertising on children's underwear?
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
29 May 2005 03:18:55 AM |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 09:13:07 +0100 in alt.atheism, Barry Trotter
(Barry Trotter <trotb02@hogwash.ac.uk>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
In the great debate about "OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests!" in
alt.atheism, Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> catapaulted the
following boulder:
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
Wouldn't they get more luck advertising on children's underwear?
I think they use that to advertise internal promotions.
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
29 May 2005 05:24:18 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
IT says here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4590019.stm
Beer mat ads to recruit priests
The Catholic Church has decided to use beer mats and posters as part
of a campaign to recruit more priests.
That says a lot about the type of people they want ...... I have some
experience of this ...... my Great-Uncle was a Priest ....... he got
arrested 3 times for DUI and on the third time he got the additional
charge of assaulting a Police Officer ..... he was so drunk he wanted to
fight anyone .....
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Beer mat ads to recruit priests! |
29 May 2005 08:17:58 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
The number of priests working at Westminster has fallen from 850 in
1990 to 600 this year. The number is expected to decline to 470 over
the next decade.
2005 - 1990 = 15 years.
850 - 600 = 150
150 / 15 = 10/year.
600 / 10 = 60 years.
Not the fastest growing religion on earth.
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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