Religions > Atheism > OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq
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OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=620544
By Peter Popham in Rome
16 March 2005
Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian Prime Minister, will begin withdrawing
Italian troops from Iraq in September.
On Porta a Porta, a television talk show on which he often makes
important announcements, he said: "As early as September we will begin
a progressive reduction of the number of our soldiers in Iraq." The
pace of the withdrawal will depend, he said, "on the capability of the
Iraqi government to give itself structures for acceptable security.
I've spoken about it with Tony Blair, and it's the public opinion of
our countries that expects this decision."
Italy
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/669243740d07ae6b
Berlusconi
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/a8b0b69bf27d7b19
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
16 Mar 2005 09:15:59 AM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<1110965742.635726.219540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=620544
On Porta a Porta, a television talk show on which he often makes
important announcements, he said: "As early as September we will begin
a progressive reduction of the number of our soldiers in Iraq." The
pace of the withdrawal will depend, he said, "on the capability of the
Iraqi government to give itself structures for acceptable security.
I've spoken about it with Tony Blair, and it's the public opinion of
our countries that expects this decision."
Am I the only one who has noticed Al Qaeda's inactivity in
Spain since they pulled out? Maybe Berlusconi is finally
waking up to reality.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
16 Mar 2005 11:51:35 AM |
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(Bob Dog) wrote in
news:4fa573de.0503160715.1d09fa64@posting.google.com:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<1110965742.635726.219540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=
620544
On Porta a Porta, a television talk show on which he often makes
important announcements, he said: "As early as September we will
begin a progressive reduction of the number of our soldiers in Iraq."
The pace of the withdrawal will depend, he said, "on the capability
of the Iraqi government to give itself structures for acceptable
security. I've spoken about it with Tony Blair, and it's the public
opinion of our countries that expects this decision."
Am I the only one who has noticed Al Qaeda's inactivity in
Spain since they pulled out?
Al Qaeda has not been "inactive" in Spain since the pullout.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/13/news/spain.html
Officials see hundreds ready to strike
MADRID One year after the worst terrorist attack in Spanish history, the
Spanish police continue to uncover and thwart new plots involving
Islamic militants, according to senior Spanish intelligence and law
enforcement officials.
Despite sweeping measures to improve their ability to investigate
potential terrorism since the bomb attacks that killed 191 people on
March 11, 2004, and one police officer in the aftermath, the officials
estimate that there are hundreds of people scattered in cells around the
country committed to attacking centers of power in Spain...
Maybe Berlusconi is finally waking up to reality.
That "reality" being that the Iraqis are gaining the upper hand over the
insurgency.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
16 Mar 2005 02:59:32 PM |
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In article <1110965742.635726.219540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com says...
Berlusconi announces September pullout
All Bush's boyfriends are "pulling out". First it was Gannon and now
Old, 'Burly' Berlusconi.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
16 Mar 2005 06:12:03 PM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca24c217315978e989c5c@news.individual.net:
In article <1110965742.635726.219540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com says...
Berlusconi announces September pullout
All Bush's boyfriends are "pulling out". First it was Gannon and now
Old, 'Burly' Berlusconi.
I thought they all didn't count in the first place, you know, the coalition
of the bribed and coerced and all that, so why is it now suddenly
significant that they're "pulling out?"
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
16 Mar 2005 09:45:28 PM |
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In article <1111018324.dd362793e6e74aea7f70937a92a6fdc9@teranews>,
fstone69@earthling.com says...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca24c217315978e989c5c@news.individual.net:
In article <1110965742.635726.219540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com says...
Berlusconi announces September pullout
All Bush's boyfriends are "pulling out". First it was Gannon and now
Old, 'Burly' Berlusconi.
I thought they all didn't count in the first place, you know, the coalition
of the bribed and coerced and all that, so why is it now suddenly
significant that they're "pulling out?"
You obviously missed the clear, quoted sexual double entendre then.
Sheesh. Next time I'll send you a copy of the joke by certified mail so
I can be sure that you'll "get it".
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
17 Mar 2005 09:35:49 AM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca2ab431fda6d03989c64@news.individual.net:
In article <1111018324.dd362793e6e74aea7f70937a92a6fdc9@teranews>,
fstone69@earthling.com says...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca24c217315978e989c5c@news.individual.net:
In article <1110965742.635726.219540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com says...
Berlusconi announces September pullout
All Bush's boyfriends are "pulling out". First it was Gannon and
now Old, 'Burly' Berlusconi.
I thought they all didn't count in the first place, you know, the
coalition of the bribed and coerced and all that, so why is it now
suddenly significant that they're "pulling out?"
You obviously missed the clear, quoted sexual double entendre then.
No, quibbler, I just didn't comment on it. I notice that you aren't
commenting on what I *did* say.
Sheesh. Next time I'll send you a copy of the joke by certified mail
so I can be sure that you'll "get it".
Sheesh yourself.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
18 Mar 2005 09:34:43 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:1111073749.6c84c4607d35992d09524e4c58bdc0b7@teranews:
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca2ab431fda6d03989c64@news.individual.net:
In article <1111018324.dd362793e6e74aea7f70937a92a6fdc9@teranews>,
fstone69@earthling.com says...
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca24c217315978e989c5c@news.individual.net:
In article <1110965742.635726.219540
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
maff91@yahoo.com says...
Berlusconi announces September pullout
All Bush's boyfriends are "pulling out". First it was Gannon and
now Old, 'Burly' Berlusconi.
I thought they all didn't count in the first place, you know, the
coalition of the bribed and coerced and all that, so why is it now
suddenly significant that they're "pulling out?"
You obviously missed the clear, quoted sexual double entendre then.
No, quibbler, I just didn't comment on it. I notice that you aren't
commenting on what I *did* say.
Sheesh. Next time I'll send you a copy of the joke by certified mail
so I can be sure that you'll "get it".
Sheesh yourself.
Oh, by the way, quibbler:
http://www.agi.it/english/news.pl?doc=200503172024-1255-RT1-CRO-0-NF82
&page=0&id=agionline-eng.italyonline
"I am not changing a single word of what I have said, this was a case of
disinformation, a scandal, castles in the air agains the truth'. I have
only stated common sense things which everybody should agree with".
Berlusconi pointed out that "we are not an occupation force, we are
there to make sure that Iraq can become independent and democratic and
we have started this process with the recent elections". The premier
underlined that yesterday the people's assembly met for the first time
and that there will soon be a government: "We are training and preparing
Iraq's future police and security forces and slowly these forces will be
capable of guaranteeing law and order, the Italian troops will be able
to decrease their presence". Premier Berlusconi pointed out that "there
is no pullout plan yet and there has been no reaction from the EU yet.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
17 Mar 2005 12:37:09 PM |
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In article <1111073749.6c84c4607d35992d09524e4c58bdc0b7@teranews>,
fstone69@earthling.com says...
You obviously missed the clear, quoted sexual double entendre then.
No, quibbler, I just didn't comment on it. I notice that you aren't
commenting on what I *did* say.
Your comment didn't merit serious consideration. Bush is the one
claiming that the "coalition" was significant. Therefore, the fact
that the pathetic coalition as continued to atrophy should be
significant by his own argument. I really don't care if it actually
has a real logistical impact. It has a psychological/morale impact.
Sheesh. Next time I'll send you a copy of the joke by certified mail
so I can be sure that you'll "get it".
Sheesh yourself.
You need to learn to laugh at yourself, Fred. Every else does.
--
"Faith, indeed, has up to the present not been
able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Berlusconi announces September pullout for Italian forces in Iraq |
17 Mar 2005 09:34:20 PM |
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quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1ca37c421b7b614b98969e@news.individual.net:
In article <1111073749.6c84c4607d35992d09524e4c58bdc0b7@teranews>,
fstone69@earthling.com says...
You obviously missed the clear, quoted sexual double entendre then.
No, quibbler, I just didn't comment on it. I notice that you aren't
commenting on what I *did* say.
Your comment didn't merit serious consideration.
And then you proceed to give it serious consideration:
Bush is the one
claiming that the "coalition" was significant.
So you're agreeing with him now?
Therefore, the fact
that the pathetic coalition as continued to atrophy should be
significant by his own argument.
And you accept that argument, or you'd not be making it out to be
siginificant yourself.
I really don't care if it actually
has a real logistical impact. It has a psychological/morale impact.
Yes, it's obvious that you are terribly demoralized by the evident
success of Bush's policy. Otherwise you wouldn't be crowing over such
"insignficant" forces pulling out of Iraq *because their job is done*.
Sheesh. Next time I'll send you a copy of the joke by certified
mail so I can be sure that you'll "get it".
Sheesh yourself.
You need to learn to laugh at yourself, Fred. Every else does.
I'm always glad to bring a little laughter into people's lives. :-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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