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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Fred Stone"
Date: 20 Aug 2003 12:48:59 PM
Object: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html
Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.
The system was intended to recognize the facial characteristics of
felons, sexual predators and runaway children by matching passers-by in
Ybor City with a database of 30,000 mug shots.
"It's just proven not to have any benefit to us," Capt. Bob Guidara, a
department spokesman, said Tuesday. The cameras have led only to arrests
for such crimes as drug deals.
Tampa was the first city in the United States to install the permanent
camera surveillance system along public streets and the technology was
used during the 2001 Super Bowl.
Critics welcomed the end of the program.
"It's a relief," said Darlene Williams, chairwoman of the Greater Tampa
Chapter of the ACLU. "Any time you have this sort of technology on
public streets, you are subjecting people who come to Ybor to an
electronic police lineup, without any kind of probable cause."
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
.

User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 02:31:26 PM
In article <3F43B48B.6070801@earthling.com>,

says...

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html

Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.

That's nice. They didn't stop because they cared about privacy, but
merely because their system wasn't yielding the results that they hoped.
--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 06:39:11 PM
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:31:26 -0600, quibbler wrote:

In article <3F43B48B.6070801@earthling.com>,


says...

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html

Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System The
Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.


That's nice. They didn't stop because they cared about privacy, but
merely because their system wasn't yielding the results that they hoped.

That stopped them? Really? I'm surprised...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 03:27:37 PM
quibbler wrote:

In article <3F43B48B.6070801@earthling.com>,


says...

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html

Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.


That's nice. They didn't stop because they cared about privacy, but
merely because their system wasn't yielding the results that they hoped.

Probably because it was hopeless.
"It doesn't work" beats "Cry me a river".
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 04:58:33 PM
In article <3F43D9B9.7050309@earthling.com>,

says...

quibbler wrote:

In article <3F43B48B.6070801@earthling.com>,


says...

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html

Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.


That's nice. They didn't stop because they cared about privacy, but
merely because their system wasn't yielding the results that they hoped.


Probably because it was hopeless.
"It doesn't work" beats "Cry me a river".

Either that or it's a cover story intended to get people to let their
guard down. I kinda doubt that, since it's relatively more likely that
the system is garbage and that many convicts didn't know the system was
there anyway. Plus most piggies aren't smart enough to use more than the
simplest good-cop/bad-cop psych out routines. But maybe the donut
munchers are getting smarter. Who knows.
--
_____________________________________________________
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.



User: ""

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 07:44:24 PM
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:48:59 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html

Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.

The system was intended to recognize the facial characteristics of
felons, sexual predators and runaway children by matching passers-by in
Ybor City with a database of 30,000 mug shots.

"It's just proven not to have any benefit to us," Capt. Bob Guidara, a
department spokesman, said Tuesday. The cameras have led only to arrests
for such crimes as drug deals.

Tampa was the first city in the United States to install the permanent
camera surveillance system along public streets and the technology was
used during the 2001 Super Bowl.

Critics welcomed the end of the program.

"It's a relief," said Darlene Williams, chairwoman of the Greater Tampa
Chapter of the ACLU. "Any time you have this sort of technology on
public streets, you are subjecting people who come to Ybor to an
electronic police lineup, without any kind of probable cause."

--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003

I wonder where they'd get programmers that really want the system to
work anyway.....
shiftbrain
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 11:34:45 PM

I wonder where they'd get programmers that really want the system to
work anyway.....

Old KGB computer experts who are out of a job, probably. It would take a
communist to write software for such a program...not to mention the
anti-American legislators who actually voted to pass such sickening
legislation.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Ill-Legal Dept. "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"
"My country, right or wrong; to be defended when right and righted when wrong."
- Thomas Jefferson
.


User: "Martin Thomas"

Title: Re: OT Big Brother Quits Watching You 20 Aug 2003 08:19:46 PM
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:48:59 -0400, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA44DE5LJD.html

Tampa Police Eliminate Controversial Facial-Recognition System
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 20, 2003

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Tampa police have scrapped their controversial
security camera system that scanned city streets for criminals, citing
its failure over two years to recognize anyone wanted by authorities.

The system was intended to recognize the facial characteristics of
felons, sexual predators and runaway children by matching passers-by in
Ybor City with a database of 30,000 mug shots.

"It's just proven not to have any benefit to us," Capt. Bob Guidara, a
department spokesman, said Tuesday. The cameras have led only to arrests
for such crimes as drug deals.

What is worrying is that in 10 or 20 years or so they will
probably have system that works. Of course, terrorists and
professional crooks will soon figure out easy ways to disguise
themselves, so it will only be a minor inconvenience for them.

Tampa was the first city in the United States to install the permanent
camera surveillance system along public streets and the technology was
used during the 2001 Super Bowl.

Critics welcomed the end of the program.

"It's a relief," said Darlene Williams, chairwoman of the Greater Tampa
Chapter of the ACLU. "Any time you have this sort of technology on
public streets, you are subjecting people who come to Ybor to an
electronic police lineup, without any kind of probable cause."

-
Martin Thomas
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
.


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