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"maff" |
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15 Aug 2005 04:40:33 PM |
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OT: Big-Government Conservatives |
Big-Government Conservatives
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/14/AR2005081400905.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6895
Monday, August 15, 2005; Page A14
THREE TIMES in the past quarter-century, conservative leaders have
promised to restrain wasteful government spending. President Ronald
Reagan tried it and showed he was at least half-serious by vetoing the
pork-laden 1987 transportation bill. House Speaker Newt Gingrich tried
it and risked his party's electoral standing by battling to restrain
the growth in programs such as Medicare. And President Bush has tried
it, declaring on numerous occasions that he expected spending restraint
from Congress. None of these efforts proved politically sustainable. As
The Post's Jonathan Weisman and Jim VandeHei reported Thursday, Mr.
Bush's attempt at spending discipline has been especially limp.
Lives Blown Apart
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/15/opinion/15herbert.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1786.8926
By BOB HERBERT
While families of those who have been wounded in the war in Iraq are
losing almost everything, most of us are making no sacrifice at all.
The Road to Riches
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/5ba95f4634dec9cd
and thread
The Road to Riches
http://tinyurl.com/55nzo
A Blueprint for the Future
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/59c28cd6dfe6f60f
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| User: "Ross Langerak" |
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| Title: Re: Big-Government Conservatives |
15 Aug 2005 09:26:33 PM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124142032.979697.118780@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Big-Government Conservatives
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/14/AR2005081400
905.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6895
Monday, August 15, 2005; Page A14
THREE TIMES in the past quarter-century, conservative leaders have
promised to restrain wasteful government spending. President Ronald
Reagan tried it and showed he was at least half-serious by vetoing the
pork-laden 1987 transportation bill. House Speaker Newt Gingrich tried
it and risked his party's electoral standing by battling to restrain
the growth in programs such as Medicare. And President Bush has tried
it, declaring on numerous occasions that he expected spending restraint
from Congress. None of these efforts proved politically sustainable. As
The Post's Jonathan Weisman and Jim VandeHei reported Thursday, Mr.
Bush's attempt at spending discipline has been especially limp.
Both Presidents Reagan and GW Bush expected that their tax cuts would so
stimulate the economy, that they could increase spending and still reduce
the deficit. In fact, if Democrats are to be referred to as "Tax and Spend
Liberals", then Republicans should be referred to as "Borrow and Spend,
Spend, Spend Conservatives". How ironic that taxes and spending, both on a
per capita basis and as a percentage of the GNP, steadily decreased during
the eight years of the Clinton administration. The reality is, as long as
we are running a deficit, tax cuts will not stimulate the economy. The
current painfully slow recovery of the economy is due to the actions taken
by the Federal Reserve. We are recovering 'from' the Bush tax cuts, not
because of them.
(BTW, Conservatives often credit President Reagan with the "great" economy
if the 80's. Then, when reminded of the robust economy of the 90's, they
blame the Democratic Congress for the "poor" economy of the 80's, and credit
the Republican Congress with the great economy of the 90's. And to top it
off, they blame President Clinton for the recession that President GW Bush
"inherited" at the beginning of his administration.)
(And BTW, while I'm still in rant mode, that was Clinton's military that
rolled through Aghanistan. GW had yet to spend a single dime on the
military.)
[snip]
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| User: "Bobby D. Bryant" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Big-Government Conservatives |
15 Aug 2005 10:31:02 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:
Big-Government Conservatives
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/14/AR2005081400905.html
http://forums.delphiforums.com/atheistrefuge/messages?msg=1791.6895
Monday, August 15, 2005; Page A14
THREE TIMES in the past quarter-century, conservative leaders have
promised to restrain wasteful government spending. President Ronald
Reagan tried it and showed he was at least half-serious by vetoing the
pork-laden 1987 transportation bill. House Speaker Newt Gingrich tried
it and risked his party's electoral standing by battling to restrain
the growth in programs such as Medicare. And President Bush has tried
it, declaring on numerous occasions that he expected spending restraint
from Congress. None of these efforts proved politically sustainable. As
The Post's Jonathan Weisman and Jim VandeHei reported Thursday, Mr.
Bush's attempt at spending discipline has been especially limp.
Fiscal responsibility is something for the 'out' party to harp about.
Pork gets legislators re-elected. How can we expect less government
spending when we vote for the ones that arrange for spending in our
district?
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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