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User: "johac"
Date: 26 Apr 2007 02:01:10 AM
Object: OT: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War
Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 05:26:05 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
--

I was flipping through channels and caught the very tail end of his piece.
Right after that I was flipping through channels again, and a Democracy Now!
interview w/ Moyers was on local public access tv. I saw some excerpts of
the show on that and was kicking myself for missing it. I fired up the
computer a little while ago to literally kill some time while I wait to
catch the replay at 1:00 am on the local pbs station.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 06:11:00 PM
In article <59bd1vF2jmns6U1@mid.individual.net>,
"G-Ride" <gride42nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
--



I was flipping through channels and caught the very tail end of his piece.
Right after that I was flipping through channels again, and a Democracy Now!
interview w/ Moyers was on local public access tv. I saw some excerpts of
the show on that and was kicking myself for missing it. I fired up the
computer a little while ago to literally kill some time while I wait to
catch the replay at 1:00 am on the local pbs station.

It was a good show. I wish I had taped it. Maybe I'll buy a copy when it
becomes available.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 07:00:38 PM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-332F12.16110026042007@news.giganews.com...

In article <59bd1vF2jmns6U1@mid.individual.net>,
"G-Ride" <gride42nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
--



I was flipping through channels and caught the very tail end of his
piece.
Right after that I was flipping through channels again, and a Democracy
Now!
interview w/ Moyers was on local public access tv. I saw some excerpts
of
the show on that and was kicking myself for missing it. I fired up the
computer a little while ago to literally kill some time while I wait to
catch the replay at 1:00 am on the local pbs station.


It was a good show. I wish I had taped it. Maybe I'll buy a copy when it
becomes available.
--

I thought it was pretty good too. Was worth the lack of sleep to catch the
replay.
It was good to be reminded of all that went on as they lied their way into a
war w/ Iraq. Most of the stuff wasn't necessarily new to me, although I
didn't know about (or didn't remember) the countering stories that the
Knight-Ridder journalists had done.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 11:56:49 PM
In article <59csp9F2jh7aoU1@mid.individual.net>,
"G-Ride" <gridenospam42@yahoo.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-332F12.16110026042007@news.giganews.com...

In article <59bd1vF2jmns6U1@mid.individual.net>,
"G-Ride" <gride42nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
--



I was flipping through channels and caught the very tail end of his
piece.
Right after that I was flipping through channels again, and a Democracy
Now!
interview w/ Moyers was on local public access tv. I saw some excerpts
of
the show on that and was kicking myself for missing it. I fired up the
computer a little while ago to literally kill some time while I wait to
catch the replay at 1:00 am on the local pbs station.


It was a good show. I wish I had taped it. Maybe I'll buy a copy when it
becomes available.
--



I thought it was pretty good too. Was worth the lack of sleep to catch the
replay.

It was good to be reminded of all that went on as they lied their way into a
war w/ Iraq. Most of the stuff wasn't necessarily new to me, although I
didn't know about (or didn't remember) the countering stories that the
Knight-Ridder journalists had done.

Same here. I really wasn't aware of the Knight- Ridder reporters either.
I was aware of the questions about Iraq leading up to the war, but I
wasn't aware of the extent to which the media was spinning the news.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.




User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 02:36:02 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html

I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/
I hope they'll repeat the Moyers special or that it
will be on another PBS station.

--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 06:22:08 PM
In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show tonight on
how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in selling the
BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/

I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider Ghouliani
as a candidate for president is beyond me.


I hope they'll repeat the Moyers special or that it
will be on another PBS station.

--

I hope so too. I'd like to tape it. Moyers is moving his show to Fridays
and will be on every week. I'm glad he's back.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 08:04:12 PM
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:22:08 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider Ghouliani
as a candidate for president is beyond me.

He's a good candidate ... for the Democrats. Most people in this
country wouldn't vote for him.
.
User: "tirebiter"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 10:04:56 PM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:1vi2339b80ukcgt3j85rb8m5f00v0m672t@4ax.com:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:22:08 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider Ghouliani
as a candidate for president is beyond me.


He's a good candidate ... for the Democrats. Most people in this
country wouldn't vote for him.

Agreed. A year ago I said the best thing that could happen to the
Democrats is for Giuliani to be the Republican candidate. Even
hypocritical conservatives, who still condemn Clinton with every free
breath, won't be able to defend the fact that as mayor, he paraded his
mistress around town and in front of his children. He spent hundreds of
thousands of NYC money on security details for her.
He got special treatment to receive military deferments during the Vietnam
War, and was safe at home when John Kerry heroically risked his life saving
fellow U.S. soldiers. Then during the disgraceful swiftboat slander, he
had the gall to wear bandaids on his nose during the '06 RNC and laugh like
a buffoon.
But, what's going to really get him is his sleazy business dealings in junk
bonds and insider trading. He charges $100K fees to appear at charity
events, often draining almost all the money that should be used for the
charity. Along with his friendship with criminals like Bernard Kerik,
pointing out his vulnerabilities will be easy (even for the Democrats).
He will further erode the right-wing christian base with his pro-choice and
gay friendly policies.
I'm really looking forward to the '08 elections.
--
a.a. #2273
--
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.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 27 Apr 2007 07:49:45 AM
On 27 Apr 2007 03:04:56 GMT, tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:

I'm really looking forward to the '08 elections.

What remains to be seen is how closely the results resemble the vote.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 27 Apr 2007 05:50:26 PM
In article <cas333hivls22635f3nvuf0uqbkq91a6tg@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On 27 Apr 2007 03:04:56 GMT, tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:

I'm really looking forward to the '08 elections.


What remains to be seen is how closely the results resemble the vote.

I hope Bush and the Repub candidates screw up so bad that it's a big
landslide. That would be harder to fix.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 27 Apr 2007 07:30:38 PM
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:50:26 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <cas333hivls22635f3nvuf0uqbkq91a6tg@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On 27 Apr 2007 03:04:56 GMT, tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:

I'm really looking forward to the '08 elections.


What remains to be seen is how closely the results resemble the vote.


I hope Bush and the Repub candidates screw up so bad that it's a big
landslide. That would be harder to fix.

They'll just claim that the public came to their senses.
Look at Ohio. There were precincts that reported more than 100%
turnout, and nothing happened. How did more than everyone registered
vote? Especially when a 50% turnout is considered high in this
country.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 28 Apr 2007 12:22:37 AM
In article <l95533led0lvj5ha175vfe8re4pgo9btk0@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:50:26 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <cas333hivls22635f3nvuf0uqbkq91a6tg@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On 27 Apr 2007 03:04:56 GMT, tirebiter <dontspamme@bigfoot.com> wrote:

I'm really looking forward to the '08 elections.


What remains to be seen is how closely the results resemble the vote.


I hope Bush and the Repub candidates screw up so bad that it's a big
landslide. That would be harder to fix.


They'll just claim that the public came to their senses.

Look at Ohio. There were precincts that reported more than 100%
turnout, and nothing happened. How did more than everyone registered
vote? Especially when a 50% turnout is considered high in this
country.

Hopefully not all Secretaries of State or thlse who oversee elections
are crooked as they were in Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000 and 2004. I
think that they would have trouble here in a state like California.
People are aware now, and while they might swing a district here or a
district there but that's about it. I don't know about the rest of the
country.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.





User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 11:52:05 PM
In article <1vi2339b80ukcgt3j85rb8m5f00v0m672t@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:22:08 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider Ghouliani
as a candidate for president is beyond me.


He's a good candidate ... for the Democrats. Most people in this
country wouldn't vote for him.

According to some polls, he's No. 1 among the Republicans. It doesn't
say much for the rest of them.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.


User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 05:45:55 PM
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in
selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at
site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider Ghouliani
as a candidate for president is beyond me.

Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the Democrats are
looking at?
It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves “progressives” haven’t been able
to progress much since 1968, don’t you think? "
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 26 Apr 2007 11:53:51 PM
In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice in
selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read transcript at
site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider Ghouliani
as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the Democrats are
looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of trouble.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 27 Apr 2007 06:47:15 AM
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice
in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read
transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the Democrats
are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of trouble.

I'm backing Fred.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves “progressives” haven’t been able
to progress much since 1968, don’t you think? "
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 27 Apr 2007 05:51:03 PM
In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing accomplice
in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or read
transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the Democrats
are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of trouble.


I'm backing Fred.

You're running?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 27 Apr 2007 05:33:08 PM
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or
read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?

http://www.fred08.com/
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy. Strange that those who call themselves
“progressives” haven’t been able to progress much since 1968, don’t you
think? "
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 28 Apr 2007 12:28:12 AM
In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or
read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---
That's enough for me. No thanks.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 30 Apr 2007 05:25:03 AM
On 28 Apr., 07:28, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:





johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdn...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:


"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or
read transcript at site:


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?


It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.


If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/


From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."

It has always been a mystery to me how people, conservative or not,
can see Reagan as some kind of ideal.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 30 Apr 2007 06:21:07 AM
wrote in
news:1177928703.850893.313720@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

On 28 Apr., 07:28, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:





johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdn...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:


"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half
show tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a
willing accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war
disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even
consider Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond
me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?


It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.


If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/


From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."


It has always been a mystery to me how people, conservative or not,
can see Reagan as some kind of ideal.

They're talking about the principles that he brought to the job of
President. He wasn't perfect. Nobody is.
You may now proceed to make the expected snarky responses about Reagan's
human failings.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves “progressives” haven’t been able
to progress much since 1968, don’t you think? "
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 01 May 2007 06:56:01 AM
On 30 Apr., 13:21, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:

gudl...@yahoo.com wrote innews:1177928703.850893.313720@y80g2000hsf.googl=

egroups.com:






On 28 Apr., 07:28, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdn...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:


"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half
show tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a
willing accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war
disaster. Watch or read transcript at site:


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even
consider Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond
me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?


It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.


If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/


From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."


It has always been a mystery to me how people, conservative or not,
can see Reagan as some kind of ideal.


They're talking about the principles that he brought to the job of
President. He wasn't perfect. Nobody is.

You may now proceed to make the expected snarky responses about Reagan's
human failings.

He was probably a nice guy. He also was obviously not running the
show and was almost certainly suffering from Alzheimers while he was
president. Nice guy or not it is hard to see him as an ideal up there
with Lincoln - or even Nixon for that matter.


--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves "progressives" haven't been able
to progress much since 1968, don't you think? "

--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Skjul tekst=

i anf=F8rselstegn -


- Vis tekst i anf=F8rselstegn -

.



User: "Free Lunch"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 28 Apr 2007 08:45:04 AM
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:28:12 -0700, in alt.atheism
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<jhachmann-0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com>:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or
read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---

That's enough for me. No thanks.

Actor - check
Fake conservative - check
Unprincipled - not sure
Looks good - not quite a good a Reagan, but good enough
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 28 Apr 2007 10:55:59 AM
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
news:nsj633tb2dkftcn5dpl1cvtlb1vffnjsdg@4ax.com:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:28:12 -0700, in alt.atheism
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<jhachmann-0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com>:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half

show

tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch

or

read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---

That's enough for me. No thanks.


Actor - check

Fake conservative - check

Unprincipled - not sure

Looks good - not quite a good a Reagan, but good enough


Like I said, I just like the idea of seeing "Fred for President" on
bumper stickers. :)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves “progressives” haven’t been able
to progress much since 1968, don’t you think? "
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 29 Apr 2007 12:34:12 AM
In article <nsj633tb2dkftcn5dpl1cvtlb1vffnjsdg@4ax.com>,
Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:28:12 -0700, in alt.atheism
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<jhachmann-0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com>:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or
read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---

That's enough for me. No thanks.


Actor - check

Fake conservative - check

Unprincipled - not sure

Looks good - not quite a good a Reagan, but good enough

Just get him a few speech writers and a troop of spin doctors and he'd
probably pass.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 30 Apr 2007 05:25:49 AM
On 28 Apr., 15:45, Free Lunch <l...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:28:12 -0700, in alt.atheism
johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<jhachmann-0BB2A6.22281227042...@news.giganews.com>:





In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddyb...@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:


johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:


In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdn...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:


"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half show
tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch or
read transcript at site:


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?


It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.


If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/


From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---


That's enough for me. No thanks.


Actor - check

Fake conservative - check

Unprincipled - not sure

Looks good - not quite a good a Reagan, but good enough-

Yes, but is he senile?
.


User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 29 Apr 2007 01:45:01 AM
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half

show

tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch

or

read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---

That's enough for me. No thanks.

Another freaking ACTOR?
Haven't we had enough PRETENDERS in the office?
The only thing worse than the rich ***** in office now is the next rich
***** in office.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
Help Prevent Projectile Stupidity
Duct-Tape a Fundie's Mouth Shut Today!
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 29 Apr 2007 06:23:35 AM
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in
news:Xns992111F2434AAaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com:


That's enough for me. No thanks.


Another freaking ACTOR?

Haven't we had enough PRETENDERS in the office?

It goes with the territory.

The only thing worse than the rich ***** in office now is the next
rich ***** in office.

There's no such thing as a not-rich ***** in politics.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves “progressives” haven’t been able
to progress much since 1968, don’t you think? "
--
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 29 Apr 2007 06:24:45 PM
In article <Xns992111F2434AAaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half

show

tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster. Watch

or

read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even consider
Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---

That's enough for me. No thanks.


Another freaking ACTOR?

I think to some extent they are all actors.


Haven't we had enough PRETENDERS in the office?

They all pretend that they are there only for our benefit. (Ha! Ha!)


The only thing worse than the rich ***** in office now is the next rich
***** in office.

Yes, but sadly these days you need to be a rich ***** to get elected.
Until we go to publicly funded elections and restore the Fairness
Doctrine to the media the assholes will remain in power.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Bill Moyers on how the media sold Bush's War 29 Apr 2007 06:31:24 PM
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-848287.16244529042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns992111F2434AAaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:jhachmann-
0BB2A6.22281227042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991FC656142B8freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-7B45EC.15510327042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991F58D3DA207freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-E68208.21535126042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns991EC87DE3262freddybear@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:jhachmann-0613B0.16220826042007@news.giganews.com:

In article <yIOdnWqPVbjHy63bnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28B021.00011026042007@news.giganews.com...

Bill Moyers is back on PBS. He had a an hour and a half

show

tonight on how the "liberal biased" MSM was a willing
accomplice in selling the BushCo Iraq war disaster.
Watch

or

read transcript at site:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html


I forrgot it was on! I was watching Keith Olberman
rip Giuliani a new one. Oh, it was marvelous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18316770/


I saw that one too. Go Keith! Why people would even
consider Ghouliani as a candidate for president is beyond
me.


Considering the selection of moonbats and crypt things the
Democrats are looking at?

It'll be Cthulhu again for 2008, I'm thinking.

If Giuliani is the best you can do, you guys are in a heap of
trouble.


I'm backing Fred.


You're running?


http://www.fred08.com/

From site:
---
"Republicans want a presidential nominee who can bring our Nation
together and who stands squarely on the conservative principles of
Ronald Reagan."
---

That's enough for me. No thanks.


Another freaking ACTOR?



Haven't we had enough PRETENDERS in the office?


They all pretend that they are there only for our benefit. (Ha! Ha!)


The only thing worse than the rich ***** in office now is the next
rich ***** in office.


Yes, but sadly these days you need to be a rich ***** to get
elected. Until we go to publicly funded elections and restore the
Fairness Doctrine to the media the assholes will remain in power.

The Fairness Doctrine was no help there. And public funding of elections
only guarantees that incumbents will have an even bigger advantage.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Protests right out of the Vietnam era, and Vietnam analogies used to
determine current foreign policy.
Strange that those who call themselves “progressives” haven’t been able
to progress much since 1968, don’t you think? "
--
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