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"footybet" |
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10 Jan 2005 01:44:37 PM |
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OT Blackburn Rovers |
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 01:48:39 PM |
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"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Clayton Brand Ewok Skin Bedroom Slippers" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 11:31:35 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:34ffdkF48kgehU1@individual.net...
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Everything he says in every post he makes is OT in this group!
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| User: "footybet" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 01:52:18 PM |
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I marked it OT Robyn
it was suggested by someone that I should talk about the weather or
Blackburn Rovers
and as I am not one to talk about the weather much, I decided to talk
about the Rovers
drumming up support around the world
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 02:10:57 PM |
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"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105365138.895994.86650@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I marked it OT Robyn
No kidding, but since you're not an atheist, why are you posting here?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 02:27:48 PM |
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On 10 Jan 2005 05:52:18 -0800, "footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote:
I marked it OT Robyn
it was suggested by someone that I should talk about the weather or
Blackburn Rovers
and as I am not one to talk about the weather much, I decided to talk
about the Rovers
drumming up support around the world
I must have been born without the sports gene because, with the exception of
Rugby Union and motor racing, I couldn't give a FF about sports.
I did once go to a truck pull, but I got the impression there was a lot of
Jesus/trailer park stuff going on.
JPG
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
11 Jan 2005 12:39:22 AM |
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footybet wrote:
I marked it OT Robyn
it was suggested by someone that I should talk about the weather or
Blackburn Rovers
and as I am not one to talk about the weather much, I decided to talk
about the Rovers
drumming up support around the world
Aren't they the ones who wear the same colors as Hogwarts School for
Wizardry? See - it's not so far OT after all! Robyn's a witch -
she'll understand!
B.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 02:14:31 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Blackburn Rovers used to be a good team. Not great, but good.
When I lived in London I used to watch whatever looked like being a
good game even if I didn't support either team, and with so many teams
in London there was always a choice.
This is probably before footybet was even a twinkle in his father's
eye.
Blackburn had a star called Bryan Douglas who was IMO one of the
greats: an old-fashioned winger when they still had proper wing
forwards.
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| User: "footybet" |
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| Title: Re: OT Blackburn Rovers |
10 Jan 2005 02:22:23 PM |
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Bryan Douglas gives tours around Ewood Park nowadays
I shook his hand once when in the Blues Bar of the Blackburn End
I was born in 1968, so I will not have seen him play...
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:01:17 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:55:09 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
You can't get the gods these days, though. They just don't last like
they used to.
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| User: "JPG" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:42:28 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:01:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
Not around here it isn't, now Rugby, that *is* a man's game.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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11 Jan 2005 04:46:22 AM |
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JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:f2c5u05v63r5q8mjd496vv261ebdm3ncjo@
4ax.com:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:01:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
Not around here it isn't, now Rugby, that *is* a man's game.
Like American football withut the armor or the potty breaks?
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Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Jez" |
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11 Jan 2005 02:24:57 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:f2c5u05v63r5q8mjd496vv261ebdm3ncjo@
4ax.com:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:01:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
Not around here it isn't, now Rugby, that *is* a man's game.
Like American football withut the armor or the potty breaks?
Yeah !!!
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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10 Jan 2005 05:09:28 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:42:28 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:01:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
Not around here it isn't, now Rugby, that *is* a man's game.
If you have odd shaped balls.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Jez" |
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11 Jan 2005 12:29:36 AM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:42:28 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:01:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
Not around here it isn't, now Rugby, that *is* a man's game.
If you have odd shaped balls.
Hmmm.......... Please leave the Welsh out of the rugby argument....
It was invented by the damned English !
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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10 Jan 2005 05:39:38 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:09:28 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:42:28 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:01:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:48:39 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
Footie is a religion here.
Not around here it isn't, now Rugby, that *is* a man's game.
If you have odd shaped balls.
There was this lad many years ago, named William Webb Ellis, who was a
pupil at Rugby school.
In those days they played an early version of football, before people
had learned to pass the ball (a tactic introduced by Preston North End
AFAIR).
Anyway, to break a deadlock, young William picked up the ball, ran
with it and placed it in the other team's goal.
He turned round, looked at the ref and said....
"I've scored. Now what shall I do with it?"
And the rest is history. Now you know why they use a long thin ball.
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| User: "navi-gater" |
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10 Jan 2005 07:25:35 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:27f5u0h441ddgsde8ko30p0cpcd0trdp21@4ax.com:
In those days they played an early version of football, before people
had learned to pass the ball (a tactic introduced by Preston North End
AFAIR).
And prior to that of course, there was philosophers football - I think it
was one of the Greek philosophers who came up with the idea to actually
kick the ball :)
gater.
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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10 Jan 2005 02:15:38 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
He's doing what one of us told him to, so he's either taking the ***** or
he's totally round the twist. Or both.
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10 Jan 2005 02:19:26 PM |
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"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:FKqdnUatnoyuE3_cRVnytA@brightview.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote in message
news:1105364677.951053.57460@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
This is OT for this newsgroup.
He's doing what one of us told him to, so he's either taking the ***** or
he's totally round the twist. Or both.
Both, probably. I will admit that I didn't see the OT initially.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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10 Jan 2005 03:33:25 PM |
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On 10 Jan 2005 05:44:37 -0800, "footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote:
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
Now why would someone who doesn't give a *****, about soccer, want to know that?
210 morons, chasing a bag of wind, around a field, and 20,000, paying to watch:
How fucking stupid can you get?
Short of becoming a xtian.
But wait; You are a xtian, aintcha?
Let me guess: 12 pints of Guinness, and your brains have melted, and run down
your leg.
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| User: "navi-gater" |
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10 Jan 2005 07:28:50 PM |
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Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in
news:aa75u0hhl9lki97sopk9im2jhjj0qoeuaa@4ax.com:
On 10 Jan 2005 05:44:37 -0800, "footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com>
wrote:
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
Now why would someone who doesn't give a *****, about soccer, want to
know that?
210 morons, chasing a bag of wind, around a field, and 20,000, paying
to watch: How fucking stupid can you get?
210? That's gaelic football surely.
Actually I realise now you got the numbers muddled. It's 22 players on the
field and at Blackburn 210 watching.
gater.
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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10 Jan 2005 09:43:55 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:28:50 GMT, "navi-gater" <gater@the-gate.net> wrote:
Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in
news:aa75u0hhl9lki97sopk9im2jhjj0qoeuaa@4ax.com:
On 10 Jan 2005 05:44:37 -0800, "footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com>
wrote:
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
Now why would someone who doesn't give a *****, about soccer, want to
know that?
210 morons, chasing a bag of wind, around a field, and 20,000, paying
to watch: How fucking stupid can you get?
210? That's gaelic football surely.
Actually I realise now you got the numbers muddled. It's 22 players on the
field
Which only serves to show my deep understanding of the game. (:-)
and at Blackburn 210 watching.
The rest prolly fell into the holes that The Beatles, were counting.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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10 Jan 2005 10:01:28 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 21:43:55 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey>
wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:28:50 GMT, "navi-gater" <gater@the-gate.net> wrote:
Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in
news:aa75u0hhl9lki97sopk9im2jhjj0qoeuaa@4ax.com:
On 10 Jan 2005 05:44:37 -0800, "footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com>
wrote:
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
Now why would someone who doesn't give a *****, about soccer, want to
know that?
210 morons, chasing a bag of wind, around a field, and 20,000, paying
to watch: How fucking stupid can you get?
210? That's gaelic football surely.
Actually I realise now you got the numbers muddled. It's 22 players on the
field
Which only serves to show my deep understanding of the game. (:-)
and at Blackburn 210 watching.
The rest prolly fell into the holes that The Beatles, were counting.
What about the other 3,790?
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10 Jan 2005 09:40:27 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:33:25 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
On 10 Jan 2005 05:44:37 -0800, "footybet" <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote:
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
Now why would someone who doesn't give a *****, about soccer, want to know that?
210
Ooops! Make that 20.
morons, chasing a bag of wind, around a field, and 20,000, paying to watch:
How fucking stupid can you get?
Short of becoming a xtian.
But wait; You are a xtian, aintcha?
Let me guess: 12 pints of Guinness, and your brains have melted, and run down
your leg.
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10 Jan 2005 01:58:57 PM |
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footybet <damian@bleachboys.com> wrote:
if you don't follow football (soccer)
you may like to know that Blackburn Rovers are one of the most
traditional clubs in the World
they are the only club still in existence to have won the FA Cup 3
years in a row
they won the Premiership in 1995...
Or "Little Burnley" as the locals call it...
--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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10 Jan 2005 02:20:33 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:57 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
Which even Blair had to know was a lie. OR doidn't he read the
newspapers?
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
Did he honestly say this? I know that the man has a room-temperature
IQ, but had he really forgotten Pearl Harbour, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and
the action in which his father was deservedly decorated after being
shot down in action?
suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982
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10 Jan 2005 02:35:26 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:57 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
Which even Blair had to know was a lie. OR doidn't he read the
newspapers?
There was a big investigation and he blamed intelligence. By that, I think
he meant that he has none :)
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of
the great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
Did he honestly say this? I know that the man has a room-temperature
IQ, but had he really forgotten Pearl Harbour, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and
the action in which his father was deservedly decorated after being
shot down in action?
Yep, incredible isn't it. Still, he wasn't born then and I guess learning
was never was of his strong points.
suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for
Israel, to kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel
and burn them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from
underneath the feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be
forced to run to us crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two
synagogues here and there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon,
interviewed by Amos Oz (published in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC
17, 1982
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10 Jan 2005 04:26:33 PM |
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CQMMAN wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:57 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
Which even Blair had to know was a lie. OR doidn't he read the
newspapers?
There was a big investigation and he blamed intelligence. By that, I think
he meant that he has none :)
http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kfile/iraqdossier.pdf
We went to war because not enough people understand the distinction
between conjecture and fact.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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10 Jan 2005 05:14:36 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:26:33 +0000, sanguinevikings <spam@spam.not>
wrote:
CQMMAN wrote:
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:58:57 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
Which even Blair had to know was a lie. OR doidn't he read the
newspapers?
There was a big investigation and he blamed intelligence. By that, I think
he meant that he has none :)
http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kfile/iraqdossier.pdf
We went to war because not enough people understand the distinction
between conjecture and fact.
We were saying last year that is was a perfect example of the
difference between belief and fact.
Bush and his poodle both believed there were WMD. And imagined that
justified the invasion.
But even if he did have them that was no justification under
international law. It's like my neighbour having a shotgun and my
taking action against him for it. The US has them - and has used them.
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| User: "navi-gater" |
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10 Jan 2005 07:40:40 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
news:0md5u0hk9c95m9m5t6cq84sskov764plgp@4ax.com:
http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kfile/iraqdossier.pdf
We went to war because not enough people understand the distinction
between conjecture and fact.
We were saying last year that is was a perfect example of the
difference between belief and fact.
Bush and his poodle both believed there were WMD. And imagined that
justified the invasion.
But even if he did have them that was no justification under
international law. It's like my neighbour having a shotgun and my
taking action against him for it. The US has them - and has used them.
Hmmm.
Well I have a strange position on this. I'm "for" the war (in principle)
but against the current way of conducting it and the "official"
justification.
Do I think Saddam Hussein was a nasty piece of work and should be gone?
Yes.
(Assuming the political process is failing) Do/did I support military
action to achieve that specific goal? Yes.
Do I think Bush/Blair were right to try and pin 9/11 and WMDs on him to
justify it? No.
Do I think Bush in particular should be using religious rhetoric to back
up his position? No.
Do I think Bush/Blair deliberately lied to the public about the threat?
Blair = No, Bush = Yes.
As far as the WMD lies go, I think Blair may be guilty of spinning the
intelligence agencies input, but in the lead up to war, he was pointing
out that Saddam = Bad = Should be removed, and there's this WMD thing to
go with it.
Bush was just saying 9/11 = WMD = Saddam <- It's the profiteering from
9/11 I don't like, presumably because Bush felt Americans were too weak-
willed to go to war over something as inconseqauential as the welfare of
the Iraqis....
gater.
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