Religions > Atheism > OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections
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10 Nov 2005 05:57:29 AM |
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OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections |
Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article326030.ece
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
Published: 10 November 2005
President George Bush, already suffering his lowest approval ratings,
was dealt another stinging blow when voters in a crucial state ignored
his last-minute campaigning on behalf of the Republican candidate.
As well as sending a warning sign to Republicans across the country,
the outcome of the governor's race in Virginia has focused fresh
attention on the outgoing Democratic governor, Mark Warner, already
being tipped as a candidate for the presidency in 2008.
Democrats
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/fb562b4d3b120c74
G.O.P.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/e44d1177c2455101
Bush mafia
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/7033ca1f9656d7ab
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| User: "Andrew F. Heil" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections |
10 Nov 2005 06:28:55 AM |
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Yeah, I think Warner was the clearest winner of all on Tuesday.
Warner v. Clinton for the Dem nod? That would be interesting ...
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections |
10 Nov 2005 11:02:01 AM |
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Andrew F. Heil wrote:
Yeah, I think Warner was the clearest winner of all on Tuesday.
Warner v. Clinton for the Dem nod? That would be interesting ...
Meanwhile, idiot-boy Senator Rick Santorum is already
running for president, 2008. And fighting for re-election.
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Worst. Job Approval. Ever. (again)
That's right, a new poll, conducted by the Republican firm Strategic
Vision, shows that Rick Santorum's job approval ratings have fallen
below their previous low, set just two weeks ago. Here are Rick's
approval numbers:
13. Do you approve or disapprove of United States Senator Rick
Santorum's job performance?
Approve 40%
Disapprove 47%
Undecided 13%
Whoa! That means, since October 6th, Rick's approval rating has
dropped 3 percentage points, while his disapproval rating has
increased 6 percentage points. October has apparently not been a good
month for Rick.
........
Get your Rick Santorum for president junk now.
http://www.cafepress.com/progopgear/798751
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The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Andrew F. Heil" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections |
10 Nov 2005 04:12:40 PM |
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And the latest Keystone Poll (11/02 - 11/07) shows Casey leading
Santorum 51% - 35%. Basically, the recent list of incumbent Senators
who've come back from being consistently 10+% down in the polls is a
very, very short one. Santorum isn't finished yet, but without the
help of the proverbial dead girl/live boy in Casey's closet, his odds
of winning are extremely long indeed.
Happily, there are two growing lists of Senate races for 2006 - races
in which the GOP has failed to get an A-list candidate to run, and
races in which the GOP incumbent is looking very vulnerable.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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10 Nov 2005 08:11:53 PM |
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Andrew F. Heil wrote:
And the latest Keystone Poll (11/02 - 11/07) shows Casey leading
Santorum 51% - 35%. Basically, the recent list of incumbent
Senators who've come back from being consistently 10+% down in the
polls is a
very, very short one. Santorum isn't finished yet, but without the
help of the proverbial dead girl/live boy in Casey's closet, his
odds of winning are extremely long indeed.
Happily, there are two growing lists of Senate races for 2006 -
races in which the GOP has failed to get an A-list candidate to run,
and races in which the GOP incumbent is looking very vulnerable.
The problem with Santorum is, he is stupid and he
says stupid things. When the election heats up, all
Casey has to do is dig out Santorum's idiocies.
The funny thing is, Santorum had presidential hopes.
I think America has had its fill of right winged morons
for president for the nonce.
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The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections |
10 Nov 2005 06:47:28 AM |
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Warner/Clinton ticket. Interesting. (Not Clinton/Warner, wouldn't work)
-tg
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| User: "Andrew F. Heil" |
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10 Nov 2005 07:02:14 AM |
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wrote:
Warner/Clinton ticket. Interesting.
Unworkable. Hillary Clinton is too big to be the number two. The
nominee would run a serious risk of being overshadowed, of being
presented as simply a vehicle for returning the Clintons to power, etc.
I don't think any Democratic nominee would seriously consider Hillary
Clinton as a running mate.
On the other hand, a less commanding Clinton associate might work -
someone like Bill Richardson. Not because he was associated with the
Clinton Administration but simply because he would bring a lot to the
ticket. And of course there are plenty of possibilities for running
mates completely unconnected with the Clintons.
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| User: "" |
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10 Nov 2005 07:44:25 AM |
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Andrew F. Heil wrote:
tgdenning@earthlink.net wrote:
Warner/Clinton ticket. Interesting.
Unworkable. Hillary Clinton is too big to be the number two. The
nominee would run a serious risk of being overshadowed, of being
presented as simply a vehicle for returning the Clintons to power, etc.
I don't think any Democratic nominee would seriously consider Hillary
Clinton as a running mate.
I don't know. If Warner has the chops people are suggesting, it might
make him look stronger. At some point, a woman has to run and probably
first as VP. An 'unknown' woman is a lot tougher sell. Clinton brings
an enormous amount of interest to the ticket, energizes the base,
probably energizes young women, and can claim years of experience as
the shadow president. 'Time for a change' sounds like a real good
slogan right now.
-tg
On the other hand, a less commanding Clinton associate might work -
someone like Bill Richardson. Not because he was associated with the
Clinton Administration but simply because he would bring a lot to the
ticket. And of course there are plenty of possibilities for running
mates completely unconnected with the Clintons.
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| User: "Andrew F. Heil" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Bush is humiliated as Republicans suffer losses in local elections |
10 Nov 2005 08:49:12 AM |
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wrote:
Andrew F. Heil wrote:
tgdenning@earthlink.net wrote:
Warner/Clinton ticket. Interesting.
Unworkable. Hillary Clinton is too big to be the number two. The
nominee would run a serious risk of being overshadowed, of being
presented as simply a vehicle for returning the Clintons to power, etc.
I don't think any Democratic nominee would seriously consider Hillary
Clinton as a running mate.
I don't know. If Warner has the chops people are suggesting, it might
make him look stronger. At some point, a woman has to run and probably
first as VP. An 'unknown' woman is a lot tougher sell. Clinton brings
an enormous amount of interest to the ticket, energizes the base,
probably energizes young women, and can claim years of experience as
the shadow president. 'Time for a change' sounds like a real good
slogan right now.
But she comes with Bill - that fact cannot be ignored. And Warner is
the outsider, a man of far less stature than Bill Clinton. I just
can't see anyone willing to overshadow themselves so severely. It
would immediately subsume the message of Warner for the history of the
Clintons, and all that entails. Further, Hillary's intense push to the
center lately is peeling away at her appeal to the 'base'. She's got
appeal for the party machinery - the liberal base is a different issue.
The only way I could see Warner picking Hillary[1] is a brokered
convention in which she's got enough delegates to force the issue.
[1] - Working on the assumption that he would get the nomination - and
it is way, way too soon for such assumptions.
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