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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Sep 2005 09:08:48 AM |
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OT: FEMA still AWOL... |
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to the
nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands of
people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal officials
are often unable to give local governments permission to proceed with
fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most areas in the
region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop shopping sites for
residents in need of aid for their homes or families. Officials say that
they are uncertain whether they can meet the president's goal of providing
housing for 100,000 people who are now in shelters by the middle of next
month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain throughout
the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana and Mississippi,
as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal officials, provide
a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: FEMA still AWOL... |
17 Sep 2005 09:12:15 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving
thousands of people unable to get through for help, day after day.
Federal officials are often unable to give local governments
permission to proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns
running again. Most areas in the region still lack federal help
centers, the one-stop shopping sites for residents in need of aid for
their homes or families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether
they can meet the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000
people who are now in shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and
federal officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and
dysfunctional system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20050917/NEWS06/5091
70490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Translation: "No matter how hard they work and how much they manage to
deliver to whom, we can always find someplace that's still waiting and
that's what we'll focus on."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"This city, for the first time that I can remember,
is drug-free and violence-free.
And we plan to keep it that way." - Mayor Ray Nagin
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: OT: FEMA still AWOL... |
18 Sep 2005 03:08:39 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 14:12:15 +0000 (UTC), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving
thousands of people unable to get through for help, day after day.
Federal officials are often unable to give local governments
permission to proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns
running again. Most areas in the region still lack federal help
centers, the one-stop shopping sites for residents in need of aid for
their homes or families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether
they can meet the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000
people who are now in shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and
federal officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and
dysfunctional system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20050917/NEWS06/5091
70490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Translation: "No matter how hard they work and how much they manage to
deliver to whom, we can always find someplace that's still waiting and
that's what we'll focus on."
Translation: "CYA CYA GOP CYA CYA"
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1898 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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17 Sep 2005 09:11:37 AM |
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In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal
officials are often unable to give local governments permission to
proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop
shopping sites for residents in need of aid for their homes or families.
Officials say that they are uncertain whether they can meet the
president's goal of providing housing for 100,000 people who are now in
shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana and
Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal
officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it does
not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three weeks after
the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has yet to give him
approval to even start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are walking around the damn
streets. The system's broke.'"
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: FEMA still AWOL, even in Mississippi... |
17 Sep 2005 09:21:15 AM |
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In <ZKqdnWlnLeeAubHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal
officials are often unable to give local governments permission to
proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop
shopping sites for residents in need of aid for their homes or
families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether they can meet
the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000 people who are
now in shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal
officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional
system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it
does not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three weeks
after the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has yet to
give him approval to even start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are walking around the
damn streets. The system's broke.'"
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/16/bush.americareacts.ap/index.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R68A220DB
"The [Bush] speech left Kevin Melton, 54, a retired Marine from Biloxi,
Miss., disgusted. He lost his home and car in the storm and is now staying
at a Red Cross shelter in Gulfport, Mississippi.
"'I'm constantly seeing on TV that money is being allocated, and we're not
seeing it,' he said. 'There's lots of talk, no action. It just seems to be
a showcase now.'"
Cant' find a link to the story on CNN Headline News right now about the
town in MS that's still waiting for temporary housing...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: OT: FEMA still AWOL, even in Mississippi... |
17 Sep 2005 01:52:41 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:21:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnWlnLeeAubHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal
officials are often unable to give local governments permission to
proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop
shopping sites for residents in need of aid for their homes or
families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether they can meet
the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000 people who are
now in shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal
officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional
system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it
does not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three weeks
after the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has yet to
give him approval to even start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are walking around the
damn streets. The system's broke.'"
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/16/bush.americareacts.ap/index.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R68A220DB
"The [Bush] speech left Kevin Melton, 54, a retired Marine from Biloxi,
Miss., disgusted. He lost his home and car in the storm and is now staying
at a Red Cross shelter in Gulfport, Mississippi.
"'I'm constantly seeing on TV that money is being allocated, and we're not
seeing it,' he said. 'There's lots of talk, no action. It just seems to be
a showcase now.'"
Cant' find a link to the story on CNN Headline News right now about the
town in MS that's still waiting for temporary housing...
The only thing I could find on that was a video, which I can't really
post a link to 'cuz it's one of thos "javascript" thingies. It's
viewable from the main page under "Special coverage" titled
"Mississippi town feels forgotten".
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
Those first to step up and say,
"Now is not the time for placing blame"
...
...are quite often to blame....
_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=~_o-O=
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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17 Sep 2005 02:09:45 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:21:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnWlnLeeAubHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his
address to the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of
calls, leaving thousands of people unable to get through for
help, day after day. Federal officials are often unable to
give local governments permission to proceed with
fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the
one-stop shopping sites for residents in need of aid for
their homes or families. Officials say that they are
uncertain whether they can meet the president's goal of
providing housing for 100,000 people who are now in shelters
by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food,
money and temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious
problems remain throughout the affected region. Visits to
several towns in Louisiana and Mississippi, as well as
interviews with dozens of local and federal officials,
provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional
system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying
that it does not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana,
because three weeks after the storm severely damaged his
drainage system, FEMA has yet to give him approval to even
start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are
sleeping in houses that were chopped in half by oak trees.
The promised wave of government inspectors have not shown up
to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city
near the Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in
an interview on Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put
a location for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are
walking around the damn streets. The system's broke.'"
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/16/bush.americareacts.ap/index.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R68A220DB
"The [Bush] speech left Kevin Melton, 54, a retired Marine from
Biloxi, Miss., disgusted. He lost his home and car in the storm
and is now staying at a Red Cross shelter in Gulfport,
Mississippi.
"'I'm constantly seeing on TV that money is being allocated,
and we're not seeing it,' he said. 'There's lots of talk, no
action. It just seems to be a showcase now.'"
Cant' find a link to the story on CNN Headline News right now
about the town in MS that's still waiting for temporary
housing...
The only thing I could find on that was a video, which I can't
really
post a link to 'cuz it's one of thos "javascript" thingies.
It's viewable from the main page under "Special coverage"
titled "Mississippi town feels forgotten".
I dunno about this. I just KNOW this jerk has been voting
Republican since Reagan. The 'pugs have been busily dismantling
goverment for years. You see Mr . Mcgehee, governmet ids the
problem, not the solution. Its too big, you seem to has some
sort of un-American idea the government owes you immediate aid
any time you demand it.
But that is not what government is for. Its for giving tax
breaks to the wealthy and big corporations.
And I bet you have been voting for that since 1980.
Are they learning anything from all of this? I bet not.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Sep 2005 06:09:16 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:21:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
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Cant' find a link to the story on CNN Headline News right now about the
town in MS that's still waiting for temporary housing...
This one?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/20/forgotten.town.ap/index.html
Mississippi town feels forgotten in recovery
Tuesday, September 20, 2005; Posted: 10:19 a.m. EDT (14:19 GMT)
PEARLINGTON, Mississippi (AP) -- For more than a week, Pearlington
survived largely on its own.
Then, 10 days after Hurricane Katrina annihilated this tiny hamlet on
the Louisiana state line, Jeff McVay and five other members of a state
emergency response team from Walton County, Florida, arrived at the
request of Hancock County.
McVay, who's been through many hurricanes, was stunned by what he
found -- a town that had nothing but a place to get water, ice and
military-issued meals. There was no Red Cross. There was no shelter.
He called home and asked for six more men.
Pearlington's homes are heaps of debris, shoved far from their
foundations. Trees, nail-studded boards and utility lines litter the
roads. The mud has long since turned to dust, but it's deep and ready
to revert to its former state with the first good rain.
And people -- maybe 600 of the town's 1,700 souls -- are still living
in tents and under tarps.
Folks here say Pearlington is an old and generally overlooked town, a
place where blacks live in one section and whites in another. It's a
place without a mayor or a town government -- in other words, without
an advocate.
"This little town, we've always been the stepkids among the
communities in Hancock County," said Tracy Bennett, 34, who's living
in the tent city with her immediate and extended family.
A generator allows her to get water from a well, but her 20-month-old
son Tyler ambles around barefoot in the dirt, his fair skin hot and
red despite constant slathering of sunscreen and three cold baths a
day.
"Nobody knows we're here. Nobody knows we exist," Bennett said. "But
we're used to it."
After arriving, McVay took charge and four workers from the Federal
Emergency Management Agency who were already in the area volunteered
to help power-wash rooms in the local elementary school to create a
shelter. But the Red Cross rejected it, concerned about electrical
outlets that had been below the water line and the lack of a
dehumidifier.
Dissatisfied with the response, McVay said he gave up on the Red
Cross. "They've got their rules, and they can't deviate from them, but
it's life over limb," he said.
McVay asked another group -- City Team of San Jose, California -- to
set up the shelter, and work began two hours later. It opened Friday
night, Day 17 after Katrina.
"Our favorite saying here is if you can't ask for it and get it, you
backdoor it," McVay said. "We've backdoored everything we have here.
Sometimes, rules are made to be broken, and I don't mind breaking them
in the best interest of the public."
Mary Ferguson, a regional Red Cross spokeswoman, blamed an
inexperienced volunteer for delaying the opening of the shelter. That
worker has been relieved and the Red Cross is now providing supplies
to the facility.
Even with the Pearlington shelter up and running, some residents are
afraid to leave what's left of their belongings.
That includes Earl Bennett, Tracy's cousin, who is living in a
borrowed RV parked near his green, tin-roofed home. A wall of filthy
water shoved the house 20 feet from where it once stood; its guts are
now jumbled, soaked and broken.
Bennett, his wife and four children saw a sheriff's deputy shortly
after the storm. They weren't offered help, but Bennett said he
understands.
"Everybody was just kind of dumbstruck by the damage," he said.
He is angry that so much attention is focused on displaced victims of
the New Orleans floods when the people of Pearlington and nearby
Waveland live in squalid, third-world conditions.
"There's people in the Astrodome getting money, and their houses are
still standing," Bennett said. "People here, they don't have no homes
to go to."
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Sep 2005 06:06:40 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:21:15 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
[]
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/16/bush.americareacts.ap/index.html
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R68A220DB
"The [Bush] speech left Kevin Melton, 54, a retired Marine from Biloxi,
Miss., disgusted. He lost his home and car in the storm and is now staying
at a Red Cross shelter in Gulfport, Mississippi.
"'I'm constantly seeing on TV that money is being allocated, and we're not
seeing it,' he said. 'There's lots of talk, no action. It just seems to be
a showcase now.'"
Cant' find a link to the story on CNN Headline News right now about the
town in MS that's still waiting for temporary housing...
Viewers skeptical of Bush
Reaction to president's speech mixed
Friday, September 16, 2005; Posted: 11:44 a.m. EDT (15:44 GMT)
Two refugees had nothing but profanities to utter after President
Bush's speech from New Orleans. A casino dealer said Congress was to
blame for the slow response to the hurricane, not the president.
Americans watched Bush's speech Thursday with mixed expectations. Some
were glad the president acknowledged again the government's failure in
its initial response to Hurricane Katrina; others were angry, saying
the speech was too little, too late.
"He had no intention of coming to help us," said Samuel Lewis, 31, an
evacuee who watched the speech in a Houston shelter. "He should have
been there 24 hours after. He is telling me he is going to rebuild my
city. Still, when I go back home, you are going to rebuild my city,
but what about all the stuff I lost? What about jobs?"
Speaking from New Orleans' French Quarter, Bush promised the
government would pay most of the costs of rebuilding the
hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast in one of the largest reconstruction
projects the world has ever seen.
"A day late and a dollar short," said 18-year-old Wayne State
University student Rachel Aviles in Detroit. "I think he's more
responding to the negative media than responding to fix the problem."
Jason Sawyer, 30, added his sarcasm as he watched at the Eastlake Zoo
tavern in Seattle. When the president offered toll-free help numbers,
Sawyer responded: "Oh yeah, pick up that cell phone that doesn't work
and call FEMA."
In Rochester, New York, students gathered around a television in a
residence hall at the University of Rochester. Nat Powell, 21, wasn't
confident the money to rebuild New Orleans will be well spent.
"It's going to be geared toward rebuilding the city -- it's not going
to be geared toward building up the population, and that I think is
the main problem," he said. "The poor are going to stay poor unless
the problem of poverty is actually addressed."
The speech left Kevin Melton, 54, a retired Marine from Biloxi, Miss.,
disgusted. He lost his home and car in the storm and is now staying at
a Red Cross shelter in Gulfport, Mississippi.
"I'm constantly seeing on TV that money is being allocated, and we're
not seeing it," he said. "There's lots of talk, no action. It just
seems to be a showcase now."
Yolanda Johnson, a 39-year-old single mother of four, was looking for
a bit of inspiration, but was also left disappointed. She watched Bush
on a tiny television in a Houston shelter.
"I really thought he was going to say something beneficial, something
for us to look forward to," she said. "It's the same thing we've been
reading in the paper. Every politician makes promises and the promises
are never kept."
But Scott Parker, 44, a casino dealer from Ocean Springs, Miss.,
doesn't blame Bush at all. "He knows what happened here," Parker said.
"He's been here. But he's just the middle man. Congress has the
say-so."
In Albuquerque, New Mexico, members of an extended family who fled
their homes in New Orleans following Katrina's wrath sat silently as
the president spoke, gesturing in agreement when he mentioned the
hardships faced by the refugees.
"I think it was a positive message, and I think it will be done," said
21-year-old Christopher Freeman. "It just takes time."
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:11:37 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal
officials are often unable to give local governments permission to
proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop
shopping sites for residents in need of aid for their homes or families.
Officials say that they are uncertain whether they can meet the
president's goal of providing housing for 100,000 people who are now in
shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana and
Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal
officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it does
not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three weeks after
the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has yet to give him
approval to even start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are walking around the damn
streets. The system's broke.'"
Title: FEMA, Slow to the Rescue, Now Stumbles in Aid Effort
Source: NY times
URL Source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?
th=&oref=login&emc=th&pagewan
Published: Sep 17, 2005
Author: JENNIFER STEINHAUER and ERIC LIPTON
Post Date: 2005-09-17 18:38:47 by Indie
17 Comments
Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina cut its devastating path,
FEMA - the same federal agency that botched the rescue mission - is
faltering in its effort to aid hundreds of thousands of storm victims,
local officials, evacuees and top federal relief officials say. The
federal aid hot line mentioned by President Bush in his address to the
nation on Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day.
Federal officials are often unable to give local governments
permission to proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns
running again. Most areas in the region still lack federal help
centers, the one-stop shopping sites for residents in need of aid for
their homes or families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether
they can meet the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000
people who are now in shelters by the middle of next month.
While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and
federal officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and
dysfunctional system.
The top two federal relief officials in charge of the effort both
acknowledged in interviews late this week that they too have listened
to the frustrated voices of local officials and citizens alike, and
find their complaints valid.
"It is not happening fast enough, effective enough and it is not
impacting the people at the bottom as quickly as it should," said Vice
Adm. Thad W. Allen, standing along the waterfront in New Orleans on
Friday. "I have heard frustrations."
Admiral Allen, who was put in charge of the federal government's
emergency operations along the Gulf Coast a week ago Friday, said
entrenched bureaucracies hampered attempts to accelerate his top
priorities: aid to residents, providing housing and clearing the vast
swaths of wreckage from homes and trees damaged by the storm.
Working from Baton Rouge, William Lokey, FEMA's coordinating officer
for the three-state region, echoed Admiral Allen's criticisms. "It is
not going as fast as I would like, and yes, I do not have the
resources I would like," he said on Thursday. "I am going as fast as I
can to get them."
The problems clearly stem largely from the sheer enormousness of the
disaster. But the lack of investment in emergency preparedness, poor
coordination across a sprawling federal bureaucracy and a massive
failure of local communication systems - all of which hurt the initial
rescue efforts - are now also impeding the recovery.
FEMA, Mr. Lokey said, is an agency with limited federal money that
must quickly expand its operational capacity only after a major
disaster strikes. It has not won a large chunk of the new federal
homeland security dollars, that have been dedicated to terrorism.
"If the billions of dollars that have been spent on chemical, nuclear
and biological response, if some of that had come over here, we would
have done better," he said. "But after 9/11, the public priority was
terrorism."
The Katrina troubles underscore serious questions about the federal
government's ability to handle similar disasters in the future.
"I don't think federal bureaucracy can handle the next disaster," said
Toye Taylor, the president of Washington Parish, one of the hardest
hit areas in Louisiana, who met with Mr. Bush this week.
"I expressed to the president that it would take a new partnership
between the military and private sector," Mr. Taylor said. "Because
there will be another one and I don't think the federal government is
going to be able to help." Indeed, Mr. Bush said in his address to the
nation from New Orleans on Thursday night that the military would play
a new role in federal disaster relief.
The struggle to return parishes, towns and individual lives to some
semblance of working order is visible throughout the region.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=109695
The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it
does not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three
weeks after the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has
yet to give him approval to even start the repairs.
Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced," he said. "They are walking around the
damn streets. The system's broke."
Some critical aspects of the federal response to the storm are moving
significantly faster than expected. The Army Corps of Engineers, which
initially predicted that pumping out New Orleans would take up to
three months, now predicts that the enormous task will be wrapped up
by Oct. 2.
FEMA and its partners have delivered as of Friday morning more than
177 million tons of ice, 63 million liters of water and 26 million
ready-to-eat meals throughout Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.
More than $1.25 billion of federal disaster aid has also been
distributed directly to many of the just over one million victims in
the three-state region that registered for aid. Just in Louisiana,
another $100 million in disaster food stamp benefits have been
distributed.
"The commitment is an aggressive one," said Ann Silverberg Williamson,
secretary of the Louisiana Department of Social Services, which is
working with federal officials on several of these efforts.
In many affected areas, Americans continue to live in conditions
unthinkable in most of the industrialized world, like the rural
unincorporated areas in Washington and surrounding parishes, where the
uprooted trunks of 20-ton trees have left dinosaur foot-size crevices
in roads, and homes are still surrounded by a maze of twisting
branches.
In Tangipahoa Parish, the parish president, Gordon Burgess, said he
called FEMA officials daily to ask when they would arrive to assist
residents with housing. Mr. Burgess said the federal workers say, "
'I'll get to you next week,' and then the next week and then you'd
never hear from them again."
Indeed, almost every local leader interviewed - even those sympathetic
to FEMA's plight - complained that they could not get FEMA to approve
their contracts with workers, tell them when they would be opening
help centers or answer basic questions. Often, they say, the FEMA
worker on the ground, eager to help, has to go up the chain of command
before taking action, which can take days.
"People on the ground are wonderful but the problem is getting the
'yes,' " said Mr. Davis of St Tammany parish, who has a contractor
ready to clean his drainage system of the same trees FEMA allowed him
to take off his streets, and to repair parts of the sewage system.
"I'm saying, 'Wait a minute, you pick up debris on the road but not
the drainage?' If it rains, I've got real problems. I just need
someone to tell me make the public bids and I could rebuild our parish
in no time."
Perhaps the greatest frustration expressed by state and local
officials - as well as by some federal officials - is the pace of
finding or setting up temporary housing to move people out of
emergency shelters and the slow opening of specialized recovery
centers.
The Bush administration had set Oct. 1 as the deadline for moving
those 100,000 people in shelters out of these often overcrowded and
uncomfortable facilities and into temporary homes. The goal is to
install tens of thousands of mobile homes and trailers, so people are
not only out of the shelters, but they can move back closer to their
homes. But progress on the installation of these new homes is off to a
slow start.
"That is not going to happen," Mr. Lokey said Thursday afternoon of
the Oct. 1 goal. "It is just too big." By Thursday night, in his
speech to the nation, Mr. Bush had revised the deadline to Oct. 15,
which Mr. Lokey said would still be hard to meet.
Tempers are already flaring among many of the thousands of people
displaced by the storm who have had a hard time getting through to
FEMA on the telephone or finding centers where FEMA representatives
can answer questions about various federal assistance programs. Only 8
of 40 promised sites have opened in Louisiana.
"I still do not have a firm date as to when they will put a site,"
said Mr. Taylor of Washington parish. Baton Rouge, which has received
a huge influx of evacuees, did not get such a center until this
Thursday. Evacuees and local officials also complain that FEMA's
request for them to register on line or via phone is unrealistic,
given that as of Wednesday 310,000 households in Louisiana were still
without telephone service and 283,231 were still awaiting power, or
nearly 30 percent of the state's households. And the phone lines are
almost always jammed anyway. As such, those with cars drive miles to
operating help centers in other counties, where the lines are
sprawling. Confusion is rampant.
"FEMA don't communicate with you very well," said Tommy Nelson, as he
cleaned out the home of his girlfriend's mother in Waveland, a Gulf
Coast town now more of a memory than a place. "You got to learn things
second-hand. We just happened to be in a post office line and we just
happened to learn you got to register down here for a trailer. I was
talking to a FEMA representative about trailers yesterday and she
didn't have a clue." The best way to reach FEMA is about 2 a.m.,
various evacuees said.
Meanwhile, truck drivers carrying tens of thousands of tons of ice and
driving water have been sent on a cross-country tour, from city to
city, only then to be told to wait for up to a week in a parking lot
in Memphis, with their engines, as well as their tabs as drivers
running.
"It is a sad experience," said Frank Link,, who was sent from to
Missouri, then to Mississippi, then to Alabama and then to Tennessee -
all with the same load of 41,580 pounds of ice that he had loaded in
Chicago. "I went down there to help. All I did was get the runaround
from FEMA."
But the disaster has also exposed several serious flaws that hampered
FEMA's response. Communication systems, especially in rural areas,
were crippled and have still failed to return, making it impossible
for residents as well as local officials to reach the federal
government.
Further, many of the residents affected had few resources and limited
power to begin with. Isolation proved to be a liability. Those who had
leaders with access to television cameras and a little political
influence have begun to make out better than those without.
Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish, assailed the federal
government on national television the first days after the storm.
Today he boasts that FEMA has moved "at lightning speed" to get his
parish housing, paychecks for workers, and carries in his tote bag a
personal letter from the president.
Admiral Allen, whose jurisdiction spreads across the Gulf Coast
region, said he recognized that he had a brief window in which to turn
things around for the hundreds of thousands of affected residents.
"There should be a low tolerance for a learning curve on my part,"
Admiral Allen said. "It is not weeks. It is days. And if it is not
days, it is hours."
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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In <su41j1libkq5q4qjj8ijde2q8e5np31msj@4ax.com>, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:11:37 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal
officials are often unable to give local governments permission to
proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop
shopping sites for residents in need of aid for their homes or
families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether they can meet
the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000 people who are
now in shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal
officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional
system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it
does not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three weeks
after the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has yet to
give him approval to even start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are walking around the damn
streets. The system's broke.'"
Title: FEMA, Slow to the Rescue, Now Stumbles in Aid Effort Source: NY
times
Operation Clusterfuck continues...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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21 Sep 2005 07:04:16 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:47:09 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <su41j1libkq5q4qjj8ijde2q8e5np31msj@4ax.com>, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:11:37 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <ZKqdnW5nLefpvrHeRVn-1Q@megapath.net>, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands
of people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal
officials are often unable to give local governments permission to
proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most
areas in the region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop
shopping sites for residents in need of aid for their homes or
families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether they can meet
the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000 people who are
now in shelters by the middle of next month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal
officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional
system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
Also...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/nationalspecial/17fema.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126966167-TRHar+zR9whUJ0Ek52VknA
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A16A210DB
"The president of St. Tammany Parish, Kevin Davis, is praying that it
does not rain in his sweltering corner of Louisiana, because three weeks
after the storm severely damaged his drainage system, FEMA has yet to
give him approval to even start the repairs.
"Up north in the poor parish of Washington, residents are sleeping in
houses that were chopped in half by oak trees. The promised wave of
government inspectors have not shown up to assist them.
"James McGehee, the mayor of Bogalusa, a small Louisiana city near the
Mississippi border, could barely contain his rage in an interview on
Thursday.
"'Today is 18 days past the storm, and FEMA has not even put a location
for people who are displaced,' he said. 'They are walking around the damn
streets. The system's broke.'"
Title: FEMA, Slow to the Rescue, Now Stumbles in Aid Effort Source: NY
times
Operation Clusterfuck continues...
Give it a month and anal lube might arrive....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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20 Sep 2005 05:55:42 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 09:08:48 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
"The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to the
nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving thousands of
people unable to get through for help, day after day. Federal officials
are often unable to give local governments permission to proceed with
fundamental tasks to get their towns running again. Most areas in the
region still lack federal help centers, the one-stop shopping sites for
residents in need of aid for their homes or families. Officials say that
they are uncertain whether they can meet the president's goal of providing
housing for 100,000 people who are now in shelters by the middle of next
month.
"While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain throughout
the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana and Mississippi,
as well as interviews with dozens of local and federal officials, provide
a portrait of a fragmented and dysfunctional system."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050917/NEWS06/509170490
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J64A410DB
September 17, 2005
FEMA's struggle to help continues
Federal officials say they lack needed resources
By Jennifer Steinhauer and Eric Lipton
The New York Times
BATON ROUGE, La. -- Nearly three weeks after Hurricane Katrina cut its
devastating path, FEMA is faltering in its effort to aid hundreds of
thousands of storm victims, say local officials, evacuees and top
federal relief officials.
The federal aid hotline mentioned by President Bush in his address to
the nation Thursday cannot handle the flood of calls, leaving
thousands of people unable to get through for help, day after day.
Federal officials are often unable to give local governments
permission to proceed with fundamental tasks to get their towns
running again. Most areas in the region still lack federal help
centers, the one-stop shopping sites for residents in need of aid for
their homes or families. Officials say that they are uncertain whether
they can meet the president's goal of providing housing for 100,000
people who are now in shelters by the middle of next month.
While the agency has redoubled its efforts to get food, money and
temporary shelter to the storm victims, serious problems remain
throughout the affected region. Visits to several towns in Louisiana
and Mississippi, as well as interviews with dozens of local and
federal officials, provide a portrait of a fragmented and
dysfunctional system.
The top two federal relief officials in charge of the effort both
acknowledged in interviews late this week that they too have listened
to the frustrated voices of local officials and citizens alike, and
find their complaints valid.
"It is not happening fast enough, effective enough and it is not
impacting the people at the bottom as quickly as it should," said Vice
Adm. Thad Allen in New Orleans on Friday.
Allen, who was put in charge of the federal government's emergency
operations along the Gulf Coast a week ago Friday, said entrenched
bureaucracies hampered attempts to accelerate his top priorities: aid
to residents, providing housing and clearing the vast swaths of
wreckage from homes damaged by the storm.
Working from Baton Rouge, William Lokey, FEMA's coordinating officer
for the three-state region, echoed Allen's criticisms. "It is not
going as fast as I would like, and yes, I do not have the resources I
would like," he said Thursday. "I am going as fast as I can to get
them."
The problems stem largely from the sheer enormity of the disaster. But
the lack of investment in emergency preparedness, poor coordination
across a sprawling federal bureaucracy and a massive failure of local
communication systems are now also impeding the recovery.
FEMA, Lokey said, is an agency with limited federal funds that must
quickly expand its operational capacity only after a major disaster
hits. It has not won a large chunk of the new federal homeland
security dollars that have been dedicated to terrorism.
Perhaps the greatest frustrations expressed by state, local and some
federal officials are the pace of finding or setting up temporary
housing to move people out of emergency shelters and the slow opening
of specialized recovery centers.
Copyright 2005 IndyStar.com
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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