Religions > Atheism > OT: For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists
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19 Mar 2005 09:57:58 AM |
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OT: For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists |
For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1441333,00.html
The left must help shape a modern sense of British and English identity
David Blunkett
Saturday March 19, 2005
The Guardian
What is it that unites, on the left of British politics, George Orwell,
Billy Bragg, Gordon Brown and myself? An understanding that identity
and a sense of belonging need to be linked to our commitment to
nationhood and a modern form of patriotism.
It was, after all, the unity and sense of purpose of the second world
war that resulted in Labour's landslide victory of 1945. Solidarity and
interdependence, a sense of worth, a pride and hope in the future:
these are positive gains for those who believe in progressive politics
and the beneficial role of government, rather than a detriment.
David Blunkett
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/d1e03e745d3d451c
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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| Title: Re: OT: For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists |
20 Mar 2005 12:30:27 AM |
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In article <1111226278.718000.240960
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, maff said...
What is it that unites, on the left of British politics, George Orwell,
Billy Bragg, Gordon Brown and myself?
They've all talked with the taxman about poetry?
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists |
19 Mar 2005 02:04:34 PM |
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maff wrote:
For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1441333,00.html
The left must help shape a modern sense of British and English identity
David Blunkett
Saturday March 19, 2005
The Guardian
Huh Bloody rich coming from Blunkett, the guy who wants us to live in a
police-state, what's Patriotic about that ?
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: OT: For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists |
19 Mar 2005 07:47:43 PM |
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Jez wrote:
maff wrote:
For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1441333,00.html
The left must help shape a modern sense of British and English
identity
David Blunkett
Saturday March 19, 2005
The Guardian
Huh Bloody rich coming from Blunkett, the guy who wants us to live in
a
police-state, what's Patriotic about that ?
He has become a National Socialist.
A chip off the old block?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.yugoslavia/msg/54591d804d97cc0a
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too
often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of
what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists |
20 Mar 2005 12:21:27 PM |
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maff wrote:
Jez wrote:
maff wrote:
For far too long, we have left patriotism to the extremists
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1441333,00.html
The left must help shape a modern sense of British and English
identity
David Blunkett
Saturday March 19, 2005
The Guardian
Huh Bloody rich coming from Blunkett, the guy who wants us to live in
a
police-state, what's Patriotic about that ?
He has become a National Socialist.
Indeed.
A chip off the old block?
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.yugoslavia/msg/54591d804d97cc0a
It still amazes me that so many in the UK either fail to notice the
similarities, or just ignore them.
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
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