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User: "GoDrex"
Date: 05 Nov 2006 01:44:40 PM
Object: OT: Four-finned dolphin
http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: OT: Four-finned dolphin 05 Nov 2006 03:10:58 PM
"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in
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http://mdn.mainichi-

msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html
Can you say "transitional"?
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User: "turk"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 05 Nov 2006 03:15:04 PM
"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).
When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.
turk
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on terror." --George W. Bush, interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept.
6, 2006
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 05 Nov 2006 05:19:22 PM
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk

All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.
It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.
I smell something "fishy"...
--
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 07 Nov 2006 07:20:09 AM
Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.

This is wrong. The tail flukes of cetaceans are definitely a
development of the tail. All cetaceans start to develop hind limbs at
the embryo stage but the relevant HOX genes in the hind limb tissue are
turned off at an early stage of development. The limb buds atrophy and
disappear before birth. If the regulatory mechanism malfunctions it is
possible that the hind limbs would continue to develop. The bottom line
is that they have the genes necessary to grow hind limbs but these
genes normally get shut down early in development. It is possible that
some other essential development occurs along with the early growth of
the limb buds, so there is selection pressure not to lose these genes
completely. It may be that what happenned in the case here is that a
mutation has blocked the regulatory gene that normally shuts down the
hind limb growth and through drift or some unknown selection pressure
has become fixed in a particular population of Dolphins.
Bill
<SNIP>
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 07 Nov 2006 03:13:54 PM
On 7 Nov 2006 05:20:09 -0800,
wrote:
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Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
- Refer: <-u2dnYr5iI3OydPYnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@comcast.com>

"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.


This is wrong. The tail flukes of cetaceans are definitely a
development of the tail. All cetaceans start to develop hind limbs at
the embryo stage but the relevant HOX genes in the hind limb tissue are
turned off at an early stage of development. The limb buds atrophy and
disappear before birth. If the regulatory mechanism malfunctions it is
possible that the hind limbs would continue to develop. The bottom line
is that they have the genes necessary to grow hind limbs but these
genes normally get shut down early in development. It is possible that
some other essential development occurs along with the early growth of
the limb buds, so there is selection pressure not to lose these genes
completely. It may be that what happenned in the case here is that a
mutation has blocked the regulatory gene that normally shuts down the
hind limb growth and through drift or some unknown selection pressure
has become fixed in a particular population of Dolphins.

Bill

Oh, thanks for that correction.
I was wrong, it seems.
That's a fluke!
<Sobs in the corner> ;)
--
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User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 06 Nov 2006 04:10:48 AM
Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...

Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
.
User: "Kevin Anthoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 06 Nov 2006 12:06:37 PM
Lucifer wrote:


Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...


http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html



That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin
species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain
unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings.
And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation.
It's amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered
even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 06 Nov 2006 05:35:19 AM
On 6 Nov 2006 02:10:48 -0800, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1162807848.002923.257070@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
- Refer: <-u2dnYr5iI3OydPYnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@comcast.com>

"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.

You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?
--
.
User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 06 Nov 2006 06:40:07 AM
Michael Gray wrote:

On 6 Nov 2006 02:10:48 -0800, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1162807848.002923.257070@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
- Refer: <-u2dnYr5iI3OydPYnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@comcast.com>

"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?

The normal dolphin tail structure is present, and is visible in the
upper photo, though it is partially conceakled by water and is
difficult to make out.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"


--

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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 12 Nov 2006 03:00:59 PM
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:05:19 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On 6 Nov 2006 02:10:48 -0800, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1162807848.002923.257070@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
- Refer: <-u2dnYr5iI3OydPYnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@comcast.com>

"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?

Vertical stab.....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 12 Nov 2006 07:05:07 PM
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:05:19 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On 6 Nov 2006 02:10:48 -0800, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1162807848.002923.257070@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


Michael Gray wrote:

On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 15:15:04 -0600, "turk" <turk96@nowaynohow.not>
wrote:
- Refer: <-u2dnYr5iI3OydPYnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d@comcast.com>

"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CLOcnbqy3em1otPYUSdV9g@ptd.net...

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/national/news/20061105p2a00m0na015000c.html


That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....

You said that on porpoise.
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 13 Nov 2006 06:24:39 PM
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:35:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>

[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.

Don't get in a flap about it.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 13 Nov 2006 10:30:35 PM
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:24:39 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f53il25oa1g8d3j76dj26m77a8lo2mspc3@4ax.com>

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:35:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.

Sonar, yet so far.
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 16 Nov 2006 11:20:52 AM
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:00:35 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:24:39 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f53il25oa1g8d3j76dj26m77a8lo2mspc3@4ax.com>

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:35:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.

Proper bouyancy is a fin line.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 16 Nov 2006 03:28:02 PM
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:20:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <ke7pl2p84sp9m899555v2bm8l5jgt9ngcb@4ax.com>

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:00:35 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:24:39 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f53il25oa1g8d3j76dj26m77a8lo2mspc3@4ax.com>

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:35:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.

Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 19 Nov 2006 03:47:00 PM
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:58:02 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:20:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <ke7pl2p84sp9m899555v2bm8l5jgt9ngcb@4ax.com>

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:00:35 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:24:39 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f53il25oa1g8d3j76dj26m77a8lo2mspc3@4ax.com>

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:35:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.

There's several drag nets out for you.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 20 Nov 2006 01:24:07 AM
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:47:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t5k1m2t4d03kl05nt2b3hoouvt8npslgda@4ax.com>

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:58:02 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:20:52 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <ke7pl2p84sp9m899555v2bm8l5jgt9ngcb@4ax.com>

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:00:35 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:24:39 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <f53il25oa1g8d3j76dj26m77a8lo2mspc3@4ax.com>

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:35:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 13:00:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <tr2fl297gf4l9rl5939rr673jq4jklvv6t@4ax.com>


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.

I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 25 Nov 2006 04:01:48 PM
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:54:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:47:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t5k1m2t4d03kl05nt2b3hoouvt8npslgda@4ax.com>

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:58:02 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.

The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 25 Nov 2006 05:02:24 PM
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:01:48 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n6fhm25rttji4iv7eg51d29srk27mbqo1b@4ax.com>

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:54:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:47:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t5k1m2t4d03kl05nt2b3hoouvt8npslgda@4ax.com>

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:58:02 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.

A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 27 Nov 2006 03:57:21 PM
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:01:48 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n6fhm25rttji4iv7eg51d29srk27mbqo1b@4ax.com>

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:54:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:47:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t5k1m2t4d03kl05nt2b3hoouvt8npslgda@4ax.com>

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:58:02 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.

The rock salt implicated you.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 27 Nov 2006 05:09:13 PM
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:01:48 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <n6fhm25rttji4iv7eg51d29srk27mbqo1b@4ax.com>

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:54:07 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:47:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <t5k1m2t4d03kl05nt2b3hoouvt8npslgda@4ax.com>

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:58:02 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

That's pretty cool. More evidence of evolution (as if it needed more).

When I first saw your article header I was thinking of the dolphin species
sighted by naturalists that had two dorsal fins. They still remain unknown
officially, but are almost sure to exist given the credible sightings. And
since schools of them have been sighted, it can't just be a mutation. It's
amazing how many new dolphin and whale species are still discovered even
nowadays. Many large species are only know by the occassional skeleton.

turk


All dolphins have 4 "fins".
The two "hands", and the tail flukes that evolved from feet.
The specimen in the photo seems to have moved the usual large tail
flukes forward a bit, and shrunk them.
Quite how it manages to propel itself is the mystery.

It would not make sense to assume that a dolphin could have an EXTRA
pair of fins at the rear, in addition to the tail flukes.
That would make 6 limbs, and would be effectively "impossible" to have
evolved in the short time since dolphins split off from land dwelling
quadrupeds.

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.

Well, that's yer Lot!
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 29 Nov 2006 04:25:02 PM
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.


Well, that's yer Lot!

Yer, best ta pay the Trent.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Steve"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 29 Nov 2006 04:59:15 PM
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
| wrote in alt.atheism
|
| >On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
| > - Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>
| >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
| >>wrote in alt.atheism
|
| []
|
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I smell something "fishy"...
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton
here, but it
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail,
not from
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture
of the
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through
almost the
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>You could be right.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>But I still smell something fishy.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>Look at the photos in the article.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you see a tail?
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>Or is it just a fluke?
| >>>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>>Vertical stab.....
| >>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>You said that on porpoise.
| >>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>Don't get in a flap about it.
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>Sonar, yet so far.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>Proper bouyancy is a fin line.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
| >>>>>>>I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>There's several drag nets out for you.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
| >>>>>You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
| >>>>>I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
| >>>>>Officer O'Cean will sea to that.
| >>>>
| >>>>The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
| >>>>the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.
| >>>
| >>>A reefer you say, Jim lad?
| >>>Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
| >>>An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
| >>>'Twas some other salty sea dog.
| >>
| >>The rock salt implicated you.
| >
| >Well, that's yer Lot!
|
| Yer, best ta pay the Trent.
ughhh...yo...ho...ho?
;^)
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 02 Dec 2006 06:51:07 PM
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:59:15 -0600, "Steve" <no.one@example.com> wrote
in alt.atheism


"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
| wrote in alt.atheism
|
| >On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
| > - Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>
| >>On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
| >>wrote in alt.atheism
|
| []
|
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I smell something "fishy"...
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton
here, but it
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail,
not from
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture
of the
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through
almost the
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>You could be right.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>But I still smell something fishy.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>Look at the photos in the article.
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you see a tail?
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>Or is it just a fluke?
| >>>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>>Vertical stab.....
| >>>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>>You said that on porpoise.
| >>>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>>Don't get in a flap about it.
| >>>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>>Sonar, yet so far.
| >>>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>>Proper bouyancy is a fin line.
| >>>>>>>
| >>>>>>>Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
| >>>>>>>I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>There's several drag nets out for you.
| >>>>>
| >>>>>I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
| >>>>>You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
| >>>>>I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
| >>>>>Officer O'Cean will sea to that.
| >>>>
| >>>>The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
| >>>>the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.
| >>>
| >>>A reefer you say, Jim lad?
| >>>Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
| >>>An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
| >>>'Twas some other salty sea dog.
| >>
| >>The rock salt implicated you.
| >
| >Well, that's yer Lot!
|
| Yer, best ta pay the Trent.

ughhh...yo...ho...ho?

It'll be a Lott, too, and must be paid without DeLay.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.


User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 30 Nov 2006 12:31:23 AM
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:25:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.


Well, that's yer Lot!


Yer, best ta pay the Trent.

Sodd'em.
I'll pay them gomorrow.
--
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 02 Dec 2006 07:03:33 PM
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:01:23 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:25:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.


Well, that's yer Lot!


Yer, best ta pay the Trent.


Sodd'em.
I'll pay them gomorrow.

Beware they don't smoke ya.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 03 Dec 2006 07:02:09 PM
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:03:33 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <mi84n2ptfu2et027nbvf7qf6nlo4vsjuq2@4ax.com>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:01:23 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:25:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail, not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.


Well, that's yer Lot!


Yer, best ta pay the Trent.


Sodd'em.
I'll pay them gomorrow.


Beware they don't smoke ya.

The "salary" of sin.
--
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 03 Dec 2006 09:38:46 PM
--
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:0ss6n2h3uspde28frqhn9e2ffamp5fdrh4@4ax.com...

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:03:33 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <mi84n2ptfu2et027nbvf7qf6nlo4vsjuq2@4ax.com>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:01:23 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:25:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton
here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail,
not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture
of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went
through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and
sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section
of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.


Well, that's yer Lot!


Yer, best ta pay the Trent.


Sodd'em.
I'll pay them gomorrow.


Beware they don't smoke ya.


The "salary" of sin.

Sin has a salary?! How much per hour an how
many hours per week?
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 04 Dec 2006 12:46:43 AM
In article <9qmdnZcyXJreBe7YnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

--
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:0ss6n2h3uspde28frqhn9e2ffamp5fdrh4@4ax.com...

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:03:33 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <mi84n2ptfu2et027nbvf7qf6nlo4vsjuq2@4ax.com>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:01:23 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:25:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton
here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail,
not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture
of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went
through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and
sinker?
I'll take it all the way to the Seapreme Court!
Officer O'Cean will sea to that.


The gaff got yer flounderin' after the har poon 'n the bald section
of
the reef. An' they tossed your tail fins into the reefer they did.


A reefer you say, Jim lad?
Well spliff me skiff, an' shiver me cinders!
An' I never blunted the har-poon tang.
'Twas some other salty sea dog.


The rock salt implicated you.


Well, that's yer Lot!


Yer, best ta pay the Trent.


Sodd'em.
I'll pay them gomorrow.


Beware they don't smoke ya.


The "salary" of sin.

Sin has a salary?! How much per hour an how
many hours per week?

What about benefits? Does it have a 401K plan?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Four-finned dolphin 04 Dec 2006 05:05:05 AM
On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:46:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-5E75F5.22464303122006@news.giganews.com>

In article <9qmdnZcyXJreBe7YnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

--
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:0ss6n2h3uspde28frqhn9e2ffamp5fdrh4@4ax.com...

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:03:33 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <mi84n2ptfu2et027nbvf7qf6nlo4vsjuq2@4ax.com>

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:01:23 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:25:02 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <h42sm2tb1qk59n09ga0ohv9tjcg6kvoh7c@4ax.com>

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:13 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:57:21 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <epnmm291oarr5k2u24lsflo0jg2b3db0h2@4ax.com>

On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:32:24 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism


[]

I smell something "fishy"...


Just by a cursory examination of a picture of a skeleton
here, but it
appears that the tail flukes simply evolved from the tail,
not from
hind legs. (Just guessing based on two things - a picture
of the
skeleton, and a knowledge of icthyosaurs, which went
through almost the
exact same evolutionary path, and ended up that way.


You could be right.
But I still smell something fishy.
Look at the photos in the article.
Can you see a tail?
Or is it just a fluke?


Vertical stab.....


You said that on porpoise.


Don't get in a flap about it.


Sonar, yet so far.


Proper bouyancy is a fin line.


Got a bottle in front of your nose again?
I'm beginning to harbour pacific thoughts.


There's several drag nets out for you.


I sea... you think I'm gill-tea?
You think that I fell for your little cod-game hook, line and
sinker?
I'll take it