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User: "maff"
Date: 23 Nov 2005 08:52:33 AM
Object: OT: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans
Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1648661,00.html
· Lobbyist pleads guilty to bribing congressman
· Favours include golf trips, meals and sports tickets
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday November 23, 2005
The Guardian
The Republican party was yesterday facing a fast-growing corruption
scandal with potentially serious implications for next year's elections
after a well-connected Washington lobbyist pleaded guilty to bribing a
congressman and other public officials.
The plea by Michael Scanlon is a breakthrough in an investigation of
influence-peddling in Congress that could reach top levels of the
party. It comes at a time when the Republicans are already nervous
about next November's congressional elections, with public support for
the Iraq war falling away and the White House under the cloud of an
intelligence leak investigation.
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User: "Bill"

Title: Re: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans 23 Nov 2005 02:00:38 PM
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132735953.607930.189490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1648661,00.html

· Lobbyist pleads guilty to bribing congressman
· Favours include golf trips, meals and sports tickets

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday November 23, 2005
The Guardian


The Republican party was yesterday facing a fast-growing corruption
scandal with potentially serious implications for next year's elections
after a well-connected Washington lobbyist pleaded guilty to bribing a
congressman and other public officials.

The plea by Michael Scanlon is a breakthrough in an investigation of
influence-peddling in Congress that could reach top levels of the
party. It comes at a time when the Republicans are already nervous
about next November's congressional elections, with public support for
the Iraq war falling away

I think this is a destortion of the facts. Support for the war is not
falling away. OPPOSITION
to the war is growing.
and the White House under the cloud of an

intelligence leak investigation.


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User: "Dylan"

Title: Re: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans 23 Nov 2005 04:39:15 PM
Bill wrote:

"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132735953.607930.189490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1648661,00.html

· Lobbyist pleads guilty to bribing congressman
· Favours include golf trips, meals and sports tickets

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday November 23, 2005
The Guardian


The Republican party was yesterday facing a fast-growing corruption
scandal with potentially serious implications for next year's elections
after a well-connected Washington lobbyist pleaded guilty to bribing a
congressman and other public officials.

The plea by Michael Scanlon is a breakthrough in an investigation of
influence-peddling in Congress that could reach top levels of the
party. It comes at a time when the Republicans are already nervous
about next November's congressional elections, with public support for
the Iraq war falling away


I think this is a destortion of the facts. Support for the war is not
falling away.

If support for the war is not falling away, then how come all major
opinion polls show that huge numbers of people who had previously
supported the war no longer do?

OPPOSITION
to the war is growing.
and the White House under the cloud of an

intelligence leak investigation.


.

User: "Bobby D. Bryant"

Title: Re: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans 26 Nov 2005 01:10:19 AM
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, "Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote:

"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132735953.607930.189490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

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It comes at a time when the Republicans are already nervous
about next November's congressional elections, with public support for
the Iraq war falling away


I think this is a destortion of the facts. Support for the war is
not falling away. OPPOSITION to the war is growing.

The polls have been showing for months that _both_ are happening.
--
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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User: "AC"

Title: Re: OT: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans 23 Nov 2005 06:13:46 PM
On 23 Nov 2005 00:52:33 -0800,
maff <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:

Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1648661,00.html

· Lobbyist pleads guilty to bribing congressman
· Favours include golf trips, meals and sports tickets

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday November 23, 2005
The Guardian


The Republican party was yesterday facing a fast-growing corruption
scandal with potentially serious implications for next year's elections
after a well-connected Washington lobbyist pleaded guilty to bribing a
congressman and other public officials.

The plea by Michael Scanlon is a breakthrough in an investigation of
influence-peddling in Congress that could reach top levels of the
party. It comes at a time when the Republicans are already nervous
about next November's congressional elections, with public support for
the Iraq war falling away and the White House under the cloud of an
intelligence leak investigation.

Congressmen sell votes for cash?!?!?!?!?! What a shocker! Whoda thunk
that?
--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
.

User: ""

Title: Re: OT: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans 23 Nov 2005 05:54:44 PM
maff wrote:

Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1648661,00.html

· Lobbyist pleads guilty to bribing congressman
· Favours include golf trips, meals and sports tickets

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday November 23, 2005
The Guardian


The Republican party was yesterday facing a fast-growing corruption
scandal with potentially serious implications for next year's elections
after a well-connected Washington lobbyist pleaded guilty to bribing a
congressman and other public officials.

The plea by Michael Scanlon is a breakthrough in an investigation of
influence-peddling in Congress that could reach top levels of the
party. It comes at a time when the Republicans are already nervous
about next November's congressional elections, with public support for
the Iraq war falling away and the White House under the cloud of an
intelligence leak investigation.

Like the electorate didn't know that there was going to be corruption,
when they elected Republicans?
C'mon!
Republicans have been corrupt, ever since there were Republicans (Circa
1860). The first thing they did was disempower Democratic President
James Buchanan and install their own Secretary of War Edwin McMasters
Stanton to operate as the Executive (6 months before Lincoln's
election). As much as you've been told that the Civil War was about
slavery, it was much more about codifying law under English Common Law
and stopping "the People" from writing laws that didn't conform...
Slavery would have to wait for the 1964 Civil Rights Act to truly be
abolished. Republicans abused citizens North and South during
post-Civil War Reconstruction. Out of Envy of Wilson's League of
Nations, they prevented U.S. ratification which led to the demise of
the Treaty of Versailles and led to WWII. There was the Teapot Dome
Scandal of Republican corruption. There was the greed of Republican
economics that led to the Great Depression. There were the "Blacklists"
of the 1950's aimed at Jews, Liberals and Intellectuals. Watergate /
Dirty Tricks. Reaganomics (Greed is Good!). Now, we're ruled by the
second heir of the Bush Dynasty with Jeb Bush as heir apparent (It's
hard to install democratic principles abroad, when you're a Monarchy at
home).
You don't think that the electorate detects the trend in the
Republican's Anti-Democracy behaviors, even if they're aware of only a
few of these instances. The voters don't care about democratic
principles. Wave the flag, watch some fireworks, listen for two minutes
to someone sing the National Anthem, vote on election day and the
electorate feels it has more than satisfied its patriotic duties. If
they want corruption scandals, they vote Republican. If they want sex
scandals, they vote Democrat. They get what they vote for and they know
it!
JTG 11/23/05
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User: "Robert J. Kolker"

Title: Re: OT: Growing corruption scandal threatens to engulf Republicans 23 Nov 2005 06:17:24 PM
wrote:

of the 1950's aimed at Jews, Liberals and Intellectuals. Watergate /
Dirty Tricks. Reaganomics (Greed is Good!). Now, we're ruled by the
second heir of the Bush Dynasty with Jeb Bush as heir apparent (It's
hard to install democratic principles abroad, when you're a Monarchy at
home).

I remember a line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail:
Arthur, King of the Britons: You don't vote for king. We still have
elections in our semi-free Republic.
Wait until 2008. The Democrats will win. No dynasty. No more a dynasty
than were the Kennedies in the 1960-s. Lyndon Landslide Johnson saw to
that. Along with some assassins.
The Kennedies, the leftwings favorite choice for royalty (complete with
Camelot!) did no better than the Brothers Grachi in Rome.
Bob Kolker
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