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"Therion Ware" |
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20 Sep 2004 06:55:39 AM |
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OT: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Sep 2004 08:19:41 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred years!
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Marvin" |
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20 Sep 2004 11:00:47 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956A5EE5ABE84fstone69@207.69.189.194...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban
hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a
hundred years!
--
Fred Stone
According to probably biased reports I've read on the subject,
the foxes in these hunts are never wild any more, but are bred
and raised for the purpose. If that is correct, the situation
is far different than that of the eastern US cities that
become obsessed with Bambi-ism and are overrun by whitetail
deer.
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Marvin
To reply, burn off fog.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Sep 2004 12:39:19 PM |
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"Marvin" <marvin2@fogstarband.net> wrote in
news:2%C3d.218$zy2.5@fe25.usenetserver.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns956A5EE5ABE84fstone69@207.69.189.194...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in
the sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred
years!
According to probably biased reports I've read on the subject,
the foxes in these hunts are never wild any more, but are bred
and raised for the purpose. If that is correct, the situation
is far different than that of the eastern US cities that
become obsessed with Bambi-ism and are overrun by whitetail
deer.
I thought I had read somewhere that wild foxes were just about wiped out
in Britain.
New Jersey is having fits over the issuance of 200 bear licenses this
year. Ohio regularly has similar fits over thinning the deer population,
and is seeing the bear population rise too. They're attracted by donuts
and beer. (Homer the Bear!) When I was a kid you never heard of deer in
the city parks, now they're almost common.
There was a good article about reintroducing wolves into Yellowstone and
the impact on the grossly overpopulated elk herds in Scientific
American.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Steve Jones" |
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21 Sep 2004 06:36:52 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<Xns956A8AEBB7ADfstone69@207.69.189.195>...
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I thought I had read somewhere that wild foxes were just about wiped out
in Britain.
Assuredly not! They're everywhere in London: I have to double bag
any rubbish that won't fit in doesn't go in the wheelie-bin, else the
blighters will have at it, and I'm greeted with a nasty clean-up job
in the morning.
Steve
(Pentylzic)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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21 Sep 2004 08:11:32 AM |
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(Steve Jones) wrote in
news:d79ae05d.0409210336.4e10910e@posting.google.com:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns956A8AEBB7ADfstone69@207.69.189.195>...
<snip>
I thought I had read somewhere that wild foxes were just about wiped
out in Britain.
Assuredly not! They're everywhere in London: I have to double bag
any rubbish that won't fit in doesn't go in the wheelie-bin, else the
blighters will have at it, and I'm greeted with a nasty clean-up job
in the morning.
When I was a kid some of my friends used to trap raccoons and possums in
a little wooded patch to sell the furs for pocket money. Foxes were rare
but worth two or three times what a raccoon would bring.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "" |
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20 Sep 2004 09:21:34 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:19:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred years!
I'm sorry, Fred, but I wouldn't complain about increased numbers of
(human female) foxes whether they're blonde, brunette, or redhead...
(big grin)
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| User: "raven1" |
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20 Sep 2004 04:13:22 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:21:34 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:19:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred years!
Actually, isn't the proper plural "foxen"? You know, like "one ox, two
oxen"... ;-)
I'm sorry, Fred, but I wouldn't complain about increased numbers of
(human female) foxes whether they're blonde, brunette, or redhead...
(big grin)
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 12:06:35 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:13:22 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:21:34 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:19:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred years!
Actually, isn't the proper plural "foxen"?
No idea.
You know, like "one ox, two oxen"... ;-)
That's the xtian view of things.
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| User: "raven1" |
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21 Sep 2004 06:01:07 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:35 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:13:22 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:21:34 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:19:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred years!
Actually, isn't the proper plural "foxen"?
No idea.
You know, like "one ox, two oxen"... ;-)
That's the xtian view of things.
Furthermore, shouldn't it be "mouse/mice, house/hice" or "goose/geese,
moose/meese"?
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 05:36:02 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:01:07 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:06:35 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:13:22 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:21:34 -0700, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:19:41 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes, but don't blame us when you're overrun with foxes in a hundred years!
Actually, isn't the proper plural "foxen"?
No idea.
You know, like "one ox, two oxen"... ;-)
That's the xtian view of things.
Furthermore, shouldn't it be "mouse/mice, house/hice" or "goose/geese,
moose/meese"?
/cue Mr. Jinks...
I love those meeses to pieces....
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| User: "Iain" |
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20 Sep 2004 04:09:04 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com>...
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I found the riots embarrassing. For once the Americans were probably
laughing at us.
~Iain
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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20 Sep 2004 05:00:34 PM |
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"Iain" <iain_inkster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6feb9a89.0409201309.f2bd576@posting.google.com...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:<a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com>...
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I found the riots embarrassing. For once the Americans were probably
laughing at us.
Well, I only snickered slightly.
Actually, I was pretty appalled that fox hunting is still going on.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Iain" |
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20 Sep 2004 04:11:42 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com>...
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Note: It was only in England and Wales. It was banned here in Scotland
about two years ago and was forgotten about a day later. I don't know
about Ulster.
~Iain
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| User: "Eric Pepke" |
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21 Sep 2004 04:46:12 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com>...
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Of course. Giving a fox a chance to escape a hunt, and if the fox fails,
having a pack of hounds rip its body open in a second or two is Obviously
Cruel, because Well Wishing Civilized White People some of whom are
Vegans are Upset At The Image.
On the other hand, catching a fox in a trap that chews through the leg
over the course of several days and kills the animal through infection
is Definitely Not Cruel, because Well Wishing Civilized White People
don't have to think about it because there Aren't Any Horses Or Bugles
Or Red Hats.
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| User: "joe khol" |
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22 Sep 2004 08:38:02 AM |
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(Eric Pepke) wrote in message news:<ef37f531.0409211346.56cad399@posting.google.com>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<a2htk0lr79uf28hna8feo893f1h8iev7ci@4ax.com>...
Of course. Giving a fox a chance to escape a hunt, and if the fox fails,
having a pack of hounds rip its body open in a second or two is Obviously
Cruel, because Well Wishing Civilized White People some of whom are
Vegans are Upset At The Image.
On the other hand, catching a fox in a trap that chews through the leg
over the course of several days and kills the animal through infection
is Definitely Not Cruel, because Well Wishing Civilized White People
don't have to think about it because there Aren't Any Horses Or Bugles
Or Red Hats.
There are only two significant differences between your two examples;
that the first is being used as a form of entertainment and that the
second is already illegal.
Joe
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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21 Sep 2004 06:21:51 PM |
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On 21 Sep 2004 14:46:12 -0700, (Eric Pepke) wrote:
On the other hand, catching a fox in a trap that chews through the leg
over the course of several days and kills the animal through infection
is Definitely Not Cruel, because Well Wishing Civilized White People
don't have to think about it because there Aren't Any Horses Or Bugles
Or Red Hats.
Just a small point. It is the jackets hat are red, or to be precise,
Hunting Pink.
--
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "Mike Smith" |
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20 Sep 2004 08:29:52 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
=Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
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=So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the
=UK ban hunting in the sense of "fox and hounds"?
Yes. Hunting is hunting. Games are games.
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| User: "Jez" |
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22 Sep 2004 03:02:22 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Kinda funny to watch the hunt clip-clopping along the tarmac outside the
house...
Why they don't go thru Crymlyn Bog I don't know......
But they get an ear-full if any of their damn hounds get into the garden.
Hang em high I say !!
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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20 Sep 2004 12:25:57 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
This UK-ian says no.
What's next, laws against mousetraps?
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Conrad Geller" |
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20 Sep 2004 08:31:32 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I don't know the details of fox hunting. Is it more cruel to the fox
than, say, deer hunting? As a meat eater I don't feel I can take a moral
stance against hunting, since a hunted animal generally suffers less
than one raised in factory conditions for meat.
From what I read, fox hunting seems to be a largely social occasion,
with the death of the fox only a detail. Could fox hunting evolve into
an event that tests the equestrian skills of the participants and shows
off their clothes, without the climax?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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20 Sep 2004 08:38:31 AM |
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"Conrad Geller" <cgeller@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:UYA3d.3357$uz1.1247@trndny03...
Therion Ware wrote:
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I don't know the details of fox hunting. Is it more cruel to the fox
than, say, deer hunting? As a meat eater I don't feel I can take a moral
stance against hunting, since a hunted animal generally suffers less
than one raised in factory conditions for meat.
From what I read, fox hunting seems to be a largely social occasion,
with the death of the fox only a detail. Could fox hunting evolve into
an event that tests the equestrian skills of the participants and shows
off their clothes, without the climax?
Hey, if they just want to gallop through the countryside without a fox
getting torn to pieces by a pack of dogs at the end, I certainly wouldn't
have a problem with that.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "johac" |
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21 Sep 2004 01:09:22 AM |
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In article <2r84qlF17a6cuU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Conrad Geller" <cgeller@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:UYA3d.3357$uz1.1247@trndny03...
Therion Ware wrote:
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I don't know the details of fox hunting. Is it more cruel to the fox
than, say, deer hunting? As a meat eater I don't feel I can take a moral
stance against hunting, since a hunted animal generally suffers less
than one raised in factory conditions for meat.
From what I read, fox hunting seems to be a largely social occasion,
with the death of the fox only a detail. Could fox hunting evolve into
an event that tests the equestrian skills of the participants and shows
off their clothes, without the climax?
Hey, if they just want to gallop through the countryside without a fox
getting torn to pieces by a pack of dogs at the end, I certainly wouldn't
have a problem with that.
We need someone to invent a mechanical fox. that way they can have
their fun without anything getting killed.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Ian Bush" |
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21 Sep 2004 09:08:46 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <2r84qlF17a6cuU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Hey, if they just want to gallop through the countryside without a fox
getting torn to pieces by a pack of dogs at the end, I certainly wouldn't
have a problem with that.
We need someone to invent a mechanical fox. that way they can have
their fun without anything getting killed.
No you don't. You just have to make a trail with some strong scent,
for instance aniseed, and let the hounds follow that. It's called
drag hunting and goes on over here.
Problem is that the scent is so good that the pace is somewhat faster
than if following a fox, and so you have to be a reasonable equestrian
to keep up and avoid falling off. This doesn't fit well with consuming
the best part of a bottle of gin while the `sport' is occurring,
Ian
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| User: "johac" |
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22 Sep 2004 01:05:36 AM |
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In article <cip79s$42$1@mserv2.dl.ac.uk>,
Ian Bush <I.J.Bush@nospam.dl.ac.uk> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <2r84qlF17a6cuU1@uni-berlin.de>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Hey, if they just want to gallop through the countryside without a fox
getting torn to pieces by a pack of dogs at the end, I certainly wouldn't
have a problem with that.
We need someone to invent a mechanical fox. that way they can have
their fun without anything getting killed.
No you don't. You just have to make a trail with some strong scent,
for instance aniseed, and let the hounds follow that. It's called
drag hunting and goes on over here.
Problem is that the scent is so good that the pace is somewhat faster
than if following a fox, and so you have to be a reasonable equestrian
to keep up and avoid falling off. This doesn't fit well with consuming
the best part of a bottle of gin while the `sport' is occurring,
Ian
That doesn't sound so bad, but I could think of better places to
consume a bottle of gin than on the back of a galloping horse.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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20 Sep 2004 10:26:38 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:38:31 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"Conrad Geller" <cgeller@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:UYA3d.3357$uz1.1247@trndny03...
Therion Ware wrote:
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I don't know the details of fox hunting. Is it more cruel to the fox
than, say, deer hunting? As a meat eater I don't feel I can take a moral
stance against hunting, since a hunted animal generally suffers less
than one raised in factory conditions for meat.
From what I read, fox hunting seems to be a largely social occasion,
with the death of the fox only a detail. Could fox hunting evolve into
an event that tests the equestrian skills of the participants and shows
off their clothes, without the climax?
Hey, if they just want to gallop through the countryside without a fox
getting torn to pieces by a pack of dogs at the end, I certainly wouldn't
have a problem with that.
They can, by having someone drag an aniseed-soaked cloth around which the hounds
then chase. Of course this is not considered as satisfying as bringing home the
trophy consisting of the fox's tail, or brush.
A lot of the problem in the UK has been, surprise, surprise, the fact that
fox-hunting with hounds has been seen as a class thing.
The countryside "toffs" or landed gentry versus the working-class town dweller.
A load of aristocratic airhead layabouts on horseback wearing fancy-dress with
plum-in-the-mouth accents versus the salt-of-the-earth, horny-handed sons of
toil. (To mix a lot of metaphors).
Frankly there are other, cleaner and more hygienic ways of removing foxes (they
are a pest), than having then torn limb from limb by a pack of baying hounds.
I'm glad to see it banned, personally. Even though there will be job losses
amongst kennel and stable workers.
JPG
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| User: "Iain" |
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20 Sep 2004 04:07:30 PM |
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Conrad Geller <cgeller@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message news:<UYA3d.3357$uz1.1247@trndny03>...
Therion Ware wrote:
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I don't know the details of fox hunting. Is it more cruel to the fox
than, say, deer hunting? As a meat eater I don't feel I can take a moral
stance against hunting, since a hunted animal generally suffers less
than one raised in factory conditions for meat.
From what I read, fox hunting seems to be a largely social occasion,
with the death of the fox only a detail. Could fox hunting evolve into
an event that tests the equestrian skills of the participants and shows
off their clothes, without the climax?
A band of red coat wearing loud people on horseback spend an hour or
so chasing a single terrified fox through the countryside every
weekend, and, if they are successful, the fox will have become
exhausted, and is torn apart by the hounds.
The hunters then wipe the blood of the fox on their faces.
~Iain
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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20 Sep 2004 08:48:54 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 13:31:32 GMT, Conrad Geller
<cgeller@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
I don't know the details of fox hunting. Is it more cruel to the fox
than, say, deer hunting? As a meat eater I don't feel I can take a moral
stance against hunting, since a hunted animal generally suffers less
than one raised in factory conditions for meat.
From what I read, fox hunting seems to be a largely social occasion,
with the death of the fox only a detail. Could fox hunting evolve into
an event that tests the equestrian skills of the participants and shows
off their clothes, without the climax?
The fox is chased down by a pack of hounds who rip it apart. It is not
a clean kill.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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20 Sep 2004 09:31:43 AM |
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on 20 Sep 2004 in alt.atheism, Therion Ware dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Hell no. Sport is sport. Passing ***** laws just makes criminals out
of law-abiding citizens.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
21 Sep 2004 08:27:11 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:31:43 -0500 in alt.atheism, Vic Sagerquist
(Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
on 20 Sep 2004 in alt.atheism, Therion Ware dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
Hell no. Sport is sport. Passing ***** laws just makes criminals out
of law-abiding citizens.
Indeed.
Passing laws against muggers just makes them criminals?
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- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
21 Sep 2004 09:47:30 AM |
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on 21 Sep 2004 in alt.atheism, Therion Ware dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 09:31:43 -0500 in alt.atheism, Vic Sagerquist
(Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
on 20 Sep 2004 in alt.atheism, Therion Ware dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in
the sense of "fox and hounds"?
Hell no. Sport is sport. Passing ***** laws just makes criminals
out of law-abiding citizens.
Indeed.
Passing laws against muggers just makes them criminals?
No.
Passing laws that make pot illegal makes criminals out of nice people who
like to get stoned. It's called victimless crime. Like the motorcycle
helmet laws, or seatbelt laws. In my eyes, a person has a right to commit
suicide.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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