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"Therion Ware" |
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20 Sep 2004 06:55:39 AM |
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OT: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
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| User: "Danti" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
20 Sep 2004 08:08:33 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in
the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
explain the game.......does it involve a fox who is chased by pack of
barking salivating dogs, followed by a well equipped fully uninformed
calvary??? if so what becomes of this stressed out frightened animal
when caught? is it killed? released? if released must he go through
this torture yet another day???
some fools here in the u.s. decided to take up this
sport.....thankfully they were visited by the animal protection
league...what is the opinion of the average brit?
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
20 Sep 2004 09:23:40 AM |
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"Danti" <danti@nojunk.net> wrote in message
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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Parliament invaded. Riots in Parliament Square.
So what do you (mostly USians think). Should the UK ban hunting in
the
sense of "fox and hounds"?
explain the game.......does it involve a fox who is chased by pack of
barking salivating dogs, followed by a well equipped fully uninformed
calvary??? if so what becomes of this stressed out frightened animal
when caught? is it killed? released? if released must he go through
this torture yet another day???
some fools here in the u.s. decided to take up this
sport.....thankfully they were visited by the animal protection
league...what is the opinion of the average brit?
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane" higher
ground
Kathryn
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
20 Sep 2004 12:28:33 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane" higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "kathryn" |
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20 Sep 2004 01:51:38 PM |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
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kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane" higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
20 Sep 2004 06:33:24 PM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
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kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane"
higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "Marvin" |
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21 Sep 2004 08:16:40 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:2r97m4F17dgodU1@uni-berlin.de...
"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:cin8rq$9km$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:1095701380.8553.1@eunomia.uk.clara.net...
kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do
believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the
more humane"
higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that
if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one
of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
That was me, I'm afraid, and it appears my source was
unreliable. I imagine it was posted on misc.rural by one of
the animal rights trolls, but I can't remember for sure where
I heard it. Like CBS and Dan Rather, I apologize for failing
to verify my source.
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Marvin
To reply, burn off fog.
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| User: "Nick Keighley" |
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25 Sep 2004 08:35:57 AM |
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"Marvin" <marvin2@fogstarband.net> wrote in message news:<nHV3d.255$zy2.52@fe25.usenetserver.com>...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:2r97m4F17dgodU1@uni-berlin.de...
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
That was me, I'm afraid, and it appears my source was
unreliable. I imagine it was posted on misc.rural by one of
the animal rights trolls, but I can't remember for sure where
I heard it. Like CBS and Dan Rather, I apologize for failing
to verify my source.
I've read a report of a Master of Hounds feeding orphaned fox cubs.
They arn't bred but they are encouraged.
Apparently in Holland where they don't hunt foxes they are much less
common.
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Nick Keighley
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| User: "John Ritson" |
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21 Sep 2004 01:21:59 PM |
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In message <2r97m4F17dgodU1@uni-berlin.de>, Robibnikoff
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes
"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:cin8rq$9km$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:1095701380.8553.1@eunomia.uk.clara.net...
kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane"
higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
Not bred for hunting, but the hunts do things like putting out food for
foxes in the winter to ensure that enough survive to be hunted in the
spring.
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John Ritson
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| User: "godless_infidel" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
23 Sep 2004 06:00:54 PM |
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Anyone else find it ironic that the largest UK charity concerned with
the protection of animals has royal patronage? A family that delights
in slaughtering wild animals at every opportunity. Nice choice!
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
24 Sep 2004 09:04:52 AM |
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(godless_infidel) wrote in alt.atheism
Anyone else find it ironic that the largest UK charity concerned with
the protection of animals has royal patronage?
From which line, exactly?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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24 Sep 2004 06:34:10 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:04:52 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:
godless_infidel@fastmail.fm (godless_infidel) wrote in alt.atheism
Anyone else find it ironic that the largest UK charity concerned with
the protection of animals has royal patronage?
From which line, exactly?
It is the RSPCA. the "Royal Society". Patronage is direct from the
crown; not to be confused with the head that wears it.
--
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blessed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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25 Sep 2004 11:45:02 AM |
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Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:
godless_infidel@fastmail.fm (godless_infidel) wrote in alt.atheism
Anyone else find it ironic that the largest UK charity concerned with
the protection of animals has royal patronage?
From which line, exactly?
It is the RSPCA. the "Royal Society". Patronage is direct from the
crown; not to be confused with the head that wears it.
Were they involved in the zoos inside the castles in times past?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| User: "godless_infidel" |
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27 Sep 2004 03:26:17 AM |
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Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message news:<mkb9l09gpgf7kkcupaso5pvesh2p5s4o4p@4ax.com>...
It is the RSPCA. the "Royal Society". Patronage is direct from the
crown; not to be confused with the head that wears it.
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I'll rephrase it. Shouldn't the Crowns highest representative refrain
from being photographed beating a bird to death with a walking stick?
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| User: "JPG" |
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21 Sep 2004 02:32:28 AM |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:33:24 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:cin8rq$9km$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:1095701380.8553.1@eunomia.uk.clara.net...
kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane"
higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is one
the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment, they are
frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big cities like
London.
JPG
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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21 Sep 2004 02:45:42 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:32:28 +0100 in alt.atheism, JPG (JPG
<me@privacy.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:33:24 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:cin8rq$9km$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:1095701380.8553.1@eunomia.uk.clara.net...
kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane"
higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is one
the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment, they are
frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big cities like
London.
True. I occasionally saw one or two when taking the bus from London
Bridge tube to work.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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| User: "Apostate" |
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21 Sep 2004 12:56:56 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:32:28 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:33:24 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
news:cin8rq$9km$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:1095701380.8553.1@eunomia.uk.clara.net...
kathryn wrote:
It gets ripped to pieces by the hounds. Although I do believe some are
really lucky and get shot.
I dont think they can ever claim a "we're really the more humane"
higher
ground
Actually they do just that. Many farmers have said that if
the hunts are banned they'll just put snares out instead.
Takes several days of pain and starvation to die in one of
those.
--
Graham Kennedy
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even wild foxes? That
they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is one
the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment, they are
frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big cities like
London.
JPG
That's spooky.
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/Apostate
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Sep 2004 08:48:56 AM |
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Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is
one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment,
they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big
cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| User: "Hank" |
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24 Sep 2004 01:46:43 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is
one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment,
they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big
cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
It's potentially spooky. In Virginia across from D.C., more coyotes and
grey foxes are showing up in the close-in neighborhoods. Not usually a
problem, except for the rabid coyote that attacked a man near Richmond
last year. Since coyotes are *fast* (and the eastern ones are
noticeably bigger than the western ones) that creates some valid
concerns.
On the other hand, if they eat my neighbor's cat, they have my eternal
gratitude...
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Assimilate a pitiful little species like you? I think not! - Q of Borg
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Sep 2004 04:37:22 PM |
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Hank <Hank@Company.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is
one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment,
they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big
cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
It's potentially spooky. In Virginia across from D.C., more coyotes and
grey foxes are showing up in the close-in neighborhoods. Not usually a
problem, except for the rabid coyote that attacked a man near Richmond
last year. Since coyotes are *fast* (and the eastern ones are
noticeably bigger than the western ones) that creates some valid
concerns.
On the other hand, if they eat my neighbor's cat, they have my eternal
gratitude...
Hey! Cat hater!
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| User: "Bruce" |
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24 Sep 2004 08:30:35 PM |
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Hank <Hank@Company.com> wrote in message news:<41546607.6649F2E9@Company.com>...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is
one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment,
they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big
cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
It's potentially spooky. In Virginia across from D.C., more coyotes and
grey foxes are showing up in the close-in neighborhoods. Not usually a
problem, except for the rabid coyote that attacked a man near Richmond
last year. Since coyotes are *fast* (and the eastern ones are
noticeably bigger than the western ones) that creates some valid
concerns.
On the other hand, if they eat my neighbor's cat, they have my eternal
gratitude...
I'm a volunteer and director at a wildlife hospital. We take in
several thousand animals each year from the surrounding suburban areas
that become orphaned or injured (cars, fishing line, etc.). The
suburban wildlife population here is quite large and due to rapid
building in the area we are seeing larger numbers of coyotes and even
mountain lions. A biker was killed by a mountain lion here not too
long ago, and state game wardens killed two young lions that were
found wandering near houses.
We don't have any cats roaming the streets at night here.
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24 Sep 2004 12:22:20 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red
fox is one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban
environment, they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown),
even the centre of big cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
Raccoons have done that quite well around here. Once they discover cat food
they have a very contented life. They stay big and fat and the cats just
hiss at them.
A lot of birds have adapted quite well also. Pigeons in particular have done
so well that in Monterey CA they are driving the seagulls out. Even right
next to the beach it's more common now to see a pigoen perched than a gull.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Sep 2004 05:48:31 PM |
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Mike Painter <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red
fox is one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban
environment, they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown),
even the centre of big cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
Raccoons have done that quite well around here. Once they discover
cat food they have a very contented life. They stay big and fat and the
cats just hiss at them.
A lot of birds have adapted quite well also. Pigeons in particular have
done so well that in Monterey CA they are driving the seagulls out. Even
right next to the beach it's more common now to see a pigoen perched
than a gull.
Interesting... I didn't think pigeons would eat fish. I thought they
were more grain eaters...
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
24 Sep 2004 06:24:53 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Mike Painter <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The
red fox is one the most successful species, having adapted to the
urban environment, they are frequently seen in city centres
(downtown), even the centre of big cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
Raccoons have done that quite well around here. Once they discover
cat food they have a very contented life. They stay big and fat and
the cats just hiss at them.
A lot of birds have adapted quite well also. Pigeons in particular
have done so well that in Monterey CA they are driving the seagulls
out. Even right next to the beach it's more common now to see a
pigoen perched than a gull.
Interesting... I didn't think pigeons would eat fish. I thought they
were more grain eaters...
They tend to eat what the seagulls ate while on shore. I suspect the gulls
were just displaced.
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24 Sep 2004 06:26:42 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 13:48:56 +0000 (UTC), Elroy Willis
<elo@airmail.net> wrote:
Apostate <Apostate.invalid@yeehaw.org> wrote in alt.atheism
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
kathryn <bob@bob.com> wrote in message
I do believe snares are illegal too.
Yeah, and didn't someone else just that these weren't even
wild foxes? That they're bred just for hunting?
They're not bred for hunting, they are actually wild foxes. The red fox is
one the most successful species, having adapted to the urban environment,
they are frequently seen in city centres (downtown), even the centre of big
cities like London.
That's spooky.
Why is it spooky? We have the same problem with coyotes in my part
of the country. What's so spooky about some animal learning to
adapt to their environment and even thrive in it sometimes?
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
We started building, and birds added them selves to the list.
Subject change.
If any of you ever come to England, or living here, visit London,
and you want to see a bit of behavioural adaptation, be sure to visit
St James's park, and don't be too stingy too buy a bag of crumbs.
Go to the bridge over the stream, and feed the sparrows.
They will land on you, and take the food from your hand.
Okay, end of tourism add.
The animals that are moving into our cities now, and being forced
there due to our encroachment on their natural habitat.
It isn't new, survivors are opportunists, from the greatest, to the
least.
--
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blessed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
25 Sep 2004 09:47:36 AM |
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In article <lga9l0pda4l5drv4cbi0g2ajm38ole6i5b@4ax.com>,
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
<snip>
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
We started building, and birds added them selves to the list.
<snip>
And bats of course. Remember to a second approximation all mammals are
rats (rodents) or bats.
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Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
26 Sep 2004 08:45:43 AM |
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Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
Don't forget cats!
We started building, and birds added them selves to the list.
If only evolution would produce a flying cat, able to catch
hummingbirds and hawks and eagles...
<snip>
And bats of course. Remember to a second approximation all
mammals are rats (rodents) or bats.
It's the mammals that kill and eat other mammals that we need to
worry about, don't you think?
Wait, that's not right... We also need to worry about bacteria
and micro-organisms that we can't even see, but they can still
kill us it we're not careful...
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
26 Sep 2004 09:12:36 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:45:43 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, Elroy Willis
(Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
Don't forget cats!
Nah. Cats could have evolved to dominance millennia ago, but it seemed
like too much hard work.
We started building, and birds added them selves to the list.
If only evolution would produce a flying cat, able to catch
hummingbirds and hawks and eagles...
<snip>
And bats of course. Remember to a second approximation all
mammals are rats (rodents) or bats.
It's the mammals that kill and eat other mammals that we need to
worry about, don't you think?
Wait, that's not right... We also need to worry about bacteria
and micro-organisms that we can't even see, but they can still
kill us it we're not careful...
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
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| User: "Boikat" |
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26 Sep 2004 09:21:37 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:0mjdl099utf29nuousbjfoj26mp9gf2pjf@4ax.com...
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:45:43 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, Elroy Willis
(Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
Don't forget cats!
Nah. Cats could have evolved to dominance millennia ago, but it seemed
like too much hard work.
That's why we domesticated humans. <evil grin>
Boikat
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
26 Sep 2004 09:59:03 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 14:21:37 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, Boikat
("Boikat" <boikat@bellsouthnospam.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:0mjdl099utf29nuousbjfoj26mp9gf2pjf@4ax.com...
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 13:45:43 +0000 (UTC) in alt.atheism, Elroy Willis
(Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
Don't forget cats!
Nah. Cats could have evolved to dominance millennia ago, but it seemed
like too much hard work.
That's why we domesticated humans. <evil grin>
And why there is no cat God. That *really would be* hard work. As it
is written in the holy book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060012358
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Hunting Ban in the UK. |
26 Sep 2004 10:25:48 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Puck Greenman <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
And they were by no means, the first.
Rats and mice learned early in our climb to dominion.
Dogs would have been close behind.
Don't forget cats!
Nah. Cats could have evolved to dominance millennia ago, but it
seemed like too much hard work.
Keeping mice and rats out of the grain is hardly "hard work"
for a cat, is it? They like doing it, don't they?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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