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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "AnotherObserver®"
Date: 31 Oct 2004 12:36:05 PM
Object: OT Hydroponic Systems
Hello :)
I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6
If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.
Thanks
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 01:46:54 PM
AnotherObserver® wrote in news:c6bao05ae1plmi9o8eu7et832pm79q5dsd@
4ax.com:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

Thanks

Expect the DEA to break down your door looking for pot.
--
Enkidu
"Yee-Ha" is not a foreign policy.
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User: "AnotherObserver®"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 06:12:27 PM
Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:

AnotherObserver® wrote in news:c6bao05ae1plmi9o8eu7et832pm79q5dsd@
4ax.com:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

Thanks


Expect the DEA to break down your door looking for pot.

That's crazy. If I can grow fresh herbs and peppers to cook with,
then I may try orchids. I'm totally ignorant in farming matters so I
thought it best to skip to hydro systems. Indoor sanitation for the
herbs and peppers, hobbyist properties in the orchids. It's win-win.
--
Davidwd
~~~~~~~
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User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 01 Nov 2004 12:34:51 AM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:12:27 -0500 in alt.atheism, AnotherObserver®
(AnotherObserver®) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:

AnotherObserver® wrote in news:c6bao05ae1plmi9o8eu7et832pm79q5dsd@
4ax.com:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

Thanks


Expect the DEA to break down your door looking for pot.

That's crazy. If I can grow fresh herbs and peppers to cook with,
then I may try orchids. I'm totally ignorant in farming matters so I
thought it best to skip to hydro systems. Indoor sanitation for the
herbs and peppers, hobbyist properties in the orchids. It's win-win.

Till they spot your house by helicopter based heat sensor and come for
you! That said, I manage to grow a fair variety of peppers and herbs
in the kitchen, mostly because it keeps pretty warm there and is
fairly humid. Not particularly high tech, but it works!
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User: "Nivlem"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 09:59:15 PM
AnotherObserver® wrote:


Expect the DEA to break down your door looking for pot.


That's crazy. If I can grow fresh herbs and peppers to cook with,
then I may try orchids. I'm totally ignorant in farming matters so I
thought it best to skip to hydro systems. Indoor sanitation for the
herbs and peppers, hobbyist properties in the orchids. It's win-win.

The US drug war is crazy. 3 or 4 years ago the DEA subpoened the
customer list of a local hydroponics supplier. So it's a real concern.
.

User: "Eris"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 06:43:03 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:12:27 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:

AnotherObserver® wrote in news:c6bao05ae1plmi9o8eu7et832pm79q5dsd@
4ax.com:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

Thanks


Expect the DEA to break down your door looking for pot.

That's crazy. If I can grow fresh herbs and peppers to cook with,
then I may try orchids. I'm totally ignorant in farming matters so I
thought it best to skip to hydro systems. Indoor sanitation for the
herbs and peppers, hobbyist properties in the orchids. It's win-win.

I was walking through the display of orchids when the curator asked me
if I would like to see his lab. He grows orchids from a board with a
sponge attached to it and a wire mesh about 1/4" wide. The orchid
attaches to the mesh and draws nutrients from the sponge.
.
User: "AnotherObserver®"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 07:16:13 PM
Eris <vithant01@antispam.comcast.net> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:12:27 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote:

AnotherObserver® wrote in news:c6bao05ae1plmi9o8eu7et832pm79q5dsd@
4ax.com:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

Thanks


Expect the DEA to break down your door looking for pot.

That's crazy. If I can grow fresh herbs and peppers to cook with,
then I may try orchids. I'm totally ignorant in farming matters so I
thought it best to skip to hydro systems. Indoor sanitation for the
herbs and peppers, hobbyist properties in the orchids. It's win-win.


I was walking through the display of orchids when the curator asked me
if I would like to see his lab. He grows orchids from a board with a
sponge attached to it and a wire mesh about 1/4" wide. The orchid
attaches to the mesh and draws nutrients from the sponge.

That sounds very interesting. I'm too stupid to create my own setup,
maybe I can copy someone's work though. Being successful with orchids
presents me with a challenge before I'm even started. Plus, have you
noticed the price that mass growers are charging? I think growing
orchids will provide a worthy experience at this time in my life. I'm
most interested in things like plants these days. Is that a sign of
growing old?
The fact [biased orchid site] that orchids can remain healthy and in
the same clay stone bedding for years is very appealing to me also.
This a major reason that I'm leaning towards hydro rather than
organic. Plus a hydro system would provide an offset for my inability
to organize things sufficiently.
I'd like to construct something similar to the following
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/product_details.php?id=1159
but I wouldn't know what to use as netting for starters.
Then there's http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/product_details.php?id=1059
I need something to handle germination/cloning to flowering in one
easy to use application or two or three ;) I have two empty bedrooms
so space is limited, I want a grow room and a disply room...
suggestions?
--
Davidwd
~~~~~~~
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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 06:48:39 AM
AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

Thanks

Why a hydro system ?
Nothing wrong with good 'ol soil !
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 12:17:16 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

If you have hydro experience, I'm interested in opinions of the best
setup from germination to harvest. I'd also consider building my own
system, provided with concise information about the materials needed.

I suggest adding in aquaponics. The cycle of fish water and plant
runoff provides a healthy system. Such does not need to be large.
The fish can also be harvested.
Scale it down to your needs.
http://rps.uvi.edu/AES/Aquaculture/aquaponics.html
http://www.bromes.com/aquaponics.htm
What is Aquaponics? It is a combination of aquaculture and
hydroponics, two systems that are not new, but share a common problem
and concern, TOXIC WATER BUILDUP!! In aquaculture, it is the fish
emulsion, with hydroponics, it is the fertilizer water. This toxic
water is not good for the fish or the plants. This water must be
cleaned from time to time and it cannot be dumped any place in our
environment without causing damage.
We at Hanalei Nursery have developed a system over five years ago
using both aquaculture and hydroponics. Our thought is that both
systems compliment each other as a single unit, not as separate units.
We pump the fish water to a greenhouse, which is evenly distributed.
The fish water feeds the plants, such as lettuce and tomato's, then
filters through a porous material (volcanic cinders in Hawaii) and
returns to the fish tank by gravity. Both systems are in a controlled
environment, meaning light and temperature are controlled. The primary
crop is the vegetable and the fish are secondary, meaning
commercially. there is more money and turn around with the vegetables.
The aquaculture is suitable for ornamental fish, prawns, tilapia,
catfish bass and escargot snails. We also grow the Hawaiian taro plant
in cement pots that are placed in with the fish. Watercress can also
be used. What is amazing, is the water stays Ph balanced and the water
remains crystal clear.
The water is basically recycled, with a small amount of water added
weekly for evaporation. This is a balanced, self-contained eco system
that works!! Solar powers the water pump and no chemical are added
what so ever, it is totally organic. Chameleons control any insects
that might get into the house. Earthworms are raised to feed the fish
and the earthworm compost is used in the garden or planter box
gardens.
Our vision is to put one up in space and help third world countries
and China feed their people. Prime aquaculture land is not necessary
and our prototype was designed to fit on roof tops in cities and in
the back yard of homes. We have future plans for a salt water system,
but that will be another story.
{other links on site}

Thanks

--
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Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 01:29:59 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.

They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 03:43:39 PM
"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:4unfo0dd80le4epha8ctd867571pa8ugfa@4ax.com...

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.

Ack! You're not serious, are you?
--
__________
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Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 06:31:03 PM
In our last episode <2uqdccF2bs7q5U8@uni-berlin.de>, Robibnikoff lept out
of the bushes shouting:


"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before you
eat 'em.


Ack! You're not serious, are you?

Elroy? Always. Deathly so. NEVER kids around. Not Elroy...
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 03:49:30 PM
Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.

They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.

Ack! You're not serious, are you?

No. :)
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 05:33:03 PM
"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:760go0lcs4m168bvuibs02kb009bmm7nsi@4ax.com...

Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism


Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.


Ack! You're not serious, are you?


No. :)

I didn't think so, but you never know :)
--
__________
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 03 Nov 2004 02:49:47 PM
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:29:59 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.

I'd leave the worms where they belong.
--
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Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 04 Nov 2004 12:06:49 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.

They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.

I'd leave the worms where they belong.

What about snails?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 06 Nov 2004 10:09:53 AM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:06:49 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism


Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.


I'd leave the worms where they belong.


What about snails?

Them too.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 06 Nov 2004 11:13:49 AM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.

They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.

I'd leave the worms where they belong.

What about snails?

Them too.

Oysters too?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 07 Nov 2004 11:01:06 AM
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:13:49 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism


Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.


I'd leave the worms where they belong.


What about snails?


Them too.


Oysters too?

And 'shitlins' and okra.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 07 Nov 2004 12:15:01 PM
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm
compost is used in the garden or planter box gardens.

They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.

I'd leave the worms where they belong.

What about snails?

Them too.

Oysters too?

And 'shitlins' and okra.

Crawdads and crabs too?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://www.eapnews.com
.


User: "Apostate"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 06 Nov 2004 02:17:35 PM
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 17:13:49 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote:

stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism


Earthworms are raised to feed the fish and the earthworm compost is
used in the garden or planter box gardens.


They're not bad if you fry 'em as well. Best to squish out their guts
first, though, same as cutting the poop vein out of shellfish before
you eat 'em.


I'd leave the worms where they belong.


What about snails?


Them too.


Oysters too?

Fresh out.
Try the minestrone.
--
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User: "Randy Day"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 06 Nov 2004 02:58:21 PM
Apostate wrote:
[snip]

I'd leave the worms where they belong.


What about snails?


Them too.


Oysters too?



Fresh out.
Try the minestrone.

<looks up from dumping pot in sink>
Sorry. It had gone a little off.
There's a nice cheese shop just down
the road, though.
--
R
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 02:05:57 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6

Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.
Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 12:19:26 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:05:57 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

BINGO! And go to another city to do so while never returning.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.

User: "AnotherObserver®"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 06:11:40 PM
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?
--
Davidwd
~~~~~~~
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 12:19:48 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:11:40 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?

With Asscrack around, bet your *****.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.

User: ""

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 31 Oct 2004 08:13:37 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:11:40 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?

You may need a thousand watts of light or so. Your electric bill may
trigger a flyover with a thermal-detection plane or helicopter. It
would be absolutely scintillating if they busted in at 03:30 and found
veggies and nothing illegal.
If you *do have anything illegal, even if not growing it, take pains
to avoid them tracking equipment purchases to you.
Don't put a 1,000 watt metal halide bulb on your credit card.
drift
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 01 Nov 2004 12:37:02 AM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:13:37 -0500 in alt.atheism,

(
) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:11:40 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?


You may need a thousand watts of light or so. Your electric bill may
trigger a flyover with a thermal-detection plane or helicopter. It
would be absolutely scintillating if they busted in at 03:30 and found
veggies and nothing illegal.

If you *do have anything illegal, even if not growing it, take pains
to avoid them tracking equipment purchases to you.

Don't put a 1,000 watt metal halide bulb on your credit card.

As a matter of interest, suppose the police do raid, smash the front
door in and cause general chaos, are they liable to pay compensation
for loss / damage, etc, if you turn out to have nothing of criminal
interest?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
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.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 02 Nov 2004 12:21:48 PM
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:37:02 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:13:37 -0500 in alt.atheism,


(
) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:11:40 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?


You may need a thousand watts of light or so. Your electric bill may
trigger a flyover with a thermal-detection plane or helicopter. It
would be absolutely scintillating if they busted in at 03:30 and found
veggies and nothing illegal.

If you *do have anything illegal, even if not growing it, take pains
to avoid them tracking equipment purchases to you.

Don't put a 1,000 watt metal halide bulb on your credit card.


As a matter of interest, suppose the police do raid, smash the front
door in and cause general chaos, are they liable to pay compensation
for loss / damage, etc, if you turn out to have nothing of criminal
interest?

No. Police have also smashed open doors of the wrong place and shot
the homeowner (killed in some cases) when they whirled in surprise.
Collateral damage, no big deal.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.

User: ""

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 01 Nov 2004 02:52:21 PM
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:37:02 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:



On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:13:37 -0500 in alt.atheism,


(
) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:11:40 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?


You may need a thousand watts of light or so. Your electric bill may
trigger a flyover with a thermal-detection plane or helicopter. It
would be absolutely scintillating if they busted in at 03:30 and found
veggies and nothing illegal.

If you *do have anything illegal, even if not growing it, take pains
to avoid them tracking equipment purchases to you.

Don't put a 1,000 watt metal halide bulb on your credit card.


As a matter of interest, suppose the police do raid, smash the front
door in and cause general chaos, are they liable to pay compensation
for loss / damage, etc, if you turn out to have nothing of criminal
interest?

There was an incident in NYC recently where the narcs shot a
concussion grenade into the wrong apartment, the real druggies were
across the hall, IIRC. After breaking down the door and pinning a
grandmother, she pointed out the correct apartment. They apologized
and paid for the damage. However, there have been heart attacks on
this sort of mistake, nothing fixes that.
I think a snitch can report any address, and they'll go with little
verification. They are crazy on the drug issue.
drift
.

User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: OT Hydroponic Systems 01 Nov 2004 05:48:26 AM
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 01:37:02 -0500, Therion Ware wrote
(in article <8ambo0917id04ksjnfs19g08op471shmet@4ax.com>):



On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:13:37 -0500 in alt.atheism,


(
) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism



On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:11:40 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:36:05 -0500, AnotherObserver® wrote:

Hello :)

I've gained interest with indoor growing of select herbs and a few
peppers. I'm assuming a need for at least two dozen plants growing at
any given time. After searching around, the following site and it's
products appeal to me...
http://www.sgs-hydroponic.com/products.php?cat=6


Never, *ever* buy anything that could conceivably be used to grow
illegal substances over the Internet. Ever.

Make any purchases in person at a large gardening store, anonymously,
in cash, not by check or credit card, and make sure that the seller
doesn't have access to your full name or address.

I guess next is that potting soil is evidence for intent to
manufacture and distribute an illegal substance?


You may need a thousand watts of light or so. Your electric bill may
trigger a flyover with a thermal-detection plane or helicopter. It
would be absolutely scintillating if they busted in at 03:30 and found
veggies and nothing illegal.

If you *do have anything illegal, even if not growing it, take pains
to avoid them tracking equipment purchases to you.

Don't put a 1,000 watt metal halide bulb on your credit card.


As a matter of interest, suppose the police do raid, smash the front
door in and cause general chaos, are they liable to pay compensation
for loss / damage, etc, if you turn out to have nothing of criminal
interest?

No, everything I have read says they won't.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³Of course *you use an operating system hand woven on a loom at a co-op in
the Andean mountains I'm sure.³-Mark K. Bilbo
.






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