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"Mark K. Bilbo" |
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21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 AM |
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OT: I don't know what to say... |
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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21 Aug 2007 02:06:45 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com...
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Hmm, interesting.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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23 Aug 2007 08:59:50 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:06:45 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com...
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Hmm, interesting.
Only in a rather "can't stop looking at the train wreck" kinda way.
I just can never get over how the right made *such* a big thing over a
*****--which is *so* mundane in terms of sexual behavior--when it
seems every time you turn around, something really, very, deeply *weird*
pops up on *their* side of the fence.
Not that I give a flying flip about people poking holes in their ding-
dongs but... what the *****? Who the hell are these "family values" types
anyway? Are they all freaks?
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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23 Aug 2007 02:03:47 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:bbydnYEZLfNLD1DbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:06:45 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com...
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Hmm, interesting.
Only in a rather "can't stop looking at the train wreck" kinda way.
Which I personally enjoy ;)
I just can never get over how the right made *such* a big thing over a
*****--which is *so* mundane in terms of sexual behavior--when it
seems every time you turn around, something really, very, deeply *weird*
pops up on *their* side of the fence.
Not that I give a flying flip about people poking holes in their ding-
dongs but... what the *****? Who the hell are these "family values" types
anyway? Are they all freaks?
I'm starting to think they are ;)
I personally don't have a problem with piercings - got a few in my ears that
are normally where you'd find them and once had the belly button pierced -
but some of that stuff is pretty whacked.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Hatter" |
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23 Aug 2007 12:54:59 PM |
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On Aug 23, 9:59 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:06:45 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com...
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Hmm, interesting.
Only in a rather "can't stop looking at the train wreck" kinda way.
I just can never get over how the right made *such* a big thing over a
*****--which is *so* mundane in terms of sexual behavior--when it
seems every time you turn around, something really, very, deeply *weird*
pops up on *their* side of the fence.
Not that I give a flying flip about people poking holes in their ding-
dongs but... what the *****? Who the hell are these "family values" types
anyway? Are they all freaks?
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No, they aren't all freaks. Those that are so sternly in the camp, and
vociferous to rise to a position of leadership, are the ones whom have
the biggest chance of being, somehow, very odd.
Hatter
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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21 Aug 2007 10:08:35 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Part of me is screaming that this just can't be true. Not that i have
any actual evidence* and I suspect it is true. But, really now. Isn't
there some law that limits the weirdness to the Universe? Can't we
stop at some point and say, enough is enough, things just can't get
more bizarre?
What seems to unite these people is shame, shame about themselves or
their family or something. Nor moral guilt but shame. And I wonder if
that is part of what just jerks them about Clinton: he was not ashamed
of his background and not ashamed of his upbringing.
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s
in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover
model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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21 Aug 2007 10:51:01 AM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:djvlc3t6o14ieh6sdv0ghp527nfi9mao74@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Part of me is screaming that this just can't be true. Not that i have
any actual evidence* and I suspect it is true. But, really now. Isn't
there some law that limits the weirdness to the Universe? Can't we
stop at some point and say, enough is enough, things just can't get
more bizarre?
What seems to unite these people is shame, shame about themselves or
their family or something. Nor moral guilt but shame. And I wonder if
that is part of what just jerks them about Clinton: he was not ashamed
of his background and not ashamed of his upbringing.
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s
in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover
model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Geoff" |
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21 Aug 2007 01:16:03 PM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove himself?
And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes anyway. What
am I missing?
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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21 Aug 2007 09:37:27 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes
anyway. What am I missing?
Human nature, obviously. You and I might see it as irrelevant, but you know
full well that there are people that would find such things extremely
newsworthy. I'm not passing judgment on the guy, just wondering where the
tabloids have been.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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21 Aug 2007 02:08:17 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes
anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself. Interesting,
yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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22 Aug 2007 09:39:08 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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22 Aug 2007 10:34:24 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:EPudnTOr45IR11HbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
Yeah, I guess ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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22 Aug 2007 10:29:01 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a
popular cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the
story I find hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many
levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
He stoops to conquer. ;-)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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22 Aug 2007 03:25:30 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:29:01 -0400, Geoff wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a
popular cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the
story I find hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
He stoops to conquer. ;-)
SSHHHHHHHHHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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23 Aug 2007 11:24:52 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:29:01 -0400, Geoff wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in
his 50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a
popular cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the
story I find hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many
levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
He stoops to conquer. ;-)
SSHHHHHHHHHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
You look as if you've seen a ghost...or some other paranormal entity that
can be explained rationally if we don't succumb to superstition. ;-)
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22 Aug 2007 11:40:08 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:39:08 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <EPudnTOr45IR11HbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
Look at the legs on the false claim that Obama is a Muslim and went to
a radical Madrasas.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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25 Aug 2007 10:26:40 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:40:08 -0400, Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:39:08 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <EPudnTOr45IR11HbnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:17 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a
popular cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the
story I find hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself.
Interesting, yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Yah but, suppose the story had been about Hillary's father?
We'd never hear the end of it. Even if it were an unverified rumor.
Look at the legs on the false claim that Obama is a Muslim and went to a
radical Madrasas.
That was appalling. Just appalling...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Morality is doing what is right, no matter what you're
told. Religion is doing what you're told, not matter what
is right."
- Jerry Sturdivant
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22 Aug 2007 07:45:00 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a
popular cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the
story I find hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the big whoop is myself. Interesting,
yes. Scandalous? In THIS day and age?
Any reports about Rove's hypocrisy are about 8 years late and have been
covered in detail before.
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| User: "les_on_usenet" |
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21 Aug 2007 01:51:42 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:16:03 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>
wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove himself?
And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes anyway. What
am I missing?
Their Christian beliefs?
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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22 Aug 2007 07:43:34 AM |
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les_on_usenet wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:16:03 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>
wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a
popular cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the
story I find hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not
crimes anyway. What am I missing?
Their Christian beliefs?
Christian beliefs? AFAIK, neither Rove nor, if you are go by the article,
are/were practicing Christians.
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22 Aug 2007 09:30:08 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:16:03 -0400, Geoff wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s
in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover
model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes
anyway. What am I missing?
It's not terribly significant except in the sense of... what an...
interesting household that must have been...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Just because it's inexplicted doesn't mean it's inexplicable."
- Dr. House
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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21 Aug 2007 01:31:07 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:16:03 -0400, in alt.atheism , "Geoff"
<gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> in
<pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove himself?
And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes anyway. What
am I missing?
As I wrote, it suggests again to me that the big motivating factor for
those who want to control my life is their own personal shame. Either
shame about their past or background or their own actions/desires.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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22 Aug 2007 09:38:21 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:31:07 -0400, Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:16:03 -0400, in alt.atheism , "Geoff"
<gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> in
<pIednTUCWdV4tlbbnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
Denis Loubet wrote:
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his
50s in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular
cover model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
If it is true, who cares? What does this have to do with Karl Rove
himself? And being gay and wanting to pierce your schlong are not crimes
anyway. What am I missing?
As I wrote, it suggests again to me that the big motivating factor for
those who want to control my life is their own personal shame. Either
shame about their past or background or their own actions/desires.
It *is* interesting that the backgrounds of the "moralists" are often
so... um... strange?
Our politics are so weird right now. Liberals would look at this kind of
thing and shrug it off as, yeah, whatever. Conservatives would have an
absolute tantrum. But seems every time you turn around, the weird stories
are about the conservatives.
What *does* ***** me off is say you found a story like this in the
background of, oh, Obama or Edwards. It'd be all *over* the place.
Verified, unverified, wouldn't matter. Since it's about Rove, the silence
is deafening.
Along the way, by the way, I ran across that there are rumors Gannon was
going to the WH to meet *Rove*. That story has apparently been going
around Washington for some time now.
Weird...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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21 Aug 2007 11:09:27 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:51:01 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:djvlc3t6o14ieh6sdv0ghp527nfi9mao74@4ax.com...
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Part of me is screaming that this just can't be true. Not that i have
any actual evidence* and I suspect it is true. But, really now. Isn't
there some law that limits the weirdness to the Universe? Can't we
stop at some point and say, enough is enough, things just can't get
more bizarre?
What seems to unite these people is shame, shame about themselves or
their family or something. Nor moral guilt but shame. And I wonder if
that is part of what just jerks them about Clinton: he was not ashamed
of his background and not ashamed of his upbringing.
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s
in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover
model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
If it's true, where has this story been for the last six years?
It reads like a Paul Harvey "...and now you know the rest of the
story", bu tI doubt it's been on there...
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "johac" |
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22 Aug 2007 12:38:10 AM |
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In article <djvlc3t6o14ieh6sdv0ghp527nfi9mao74@4ax.com>,
Matt Silberstein <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Part of me is screaming that this just can't be true. Not that i have
any actual evidence* and I suspect it is true. But, really now. Isn't
there some law that limits the weirdness to the Universe? Can't we
stop at some point and say, enough is enough, things just can't get
more bizarre?
That Rove's father was gay is also mentioned in this article:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20253121/site/newsweek/
and i seem to recall reading it elsewhere.
What seems to unite these people is shame, shame about themselves or
their family or something. Nor moral guilt but shame. And I wonder if
that is part of what just jerks them about Clinton: he was not ashamed
of his background and not ashamed of his upbringing.
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s
in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover
model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Aug 2007 08:48:30 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:08:35 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Part of me is screaming that this just can't be true. Not that i have
any actual evidence* and I suspect it is true.
I wouldn't be surprised. Does it bother me? Not at all.
But, really now. Isn't
there some law that limits the weirdness to the Universe? Can't we
stop at some point and say, enough is enough, things just can't get
more bizarre?
One 'can,' if one needs to lie to themself. I can't help but chuckle
a little with, not at, your disquiet. I'd suggest Mr. Rove Sr.,
didn't see his actions/likes/whatever as weird or bizarre. I guess it
comes down to what one is familiar with.
I, personally, find the idea bizarre and very very weird that a
universe-spanning omnipresent construct is concerned whether someone;
turns on a light, turns on a stove, tears toiletpaper, carries
packages, conducts rescue and recovery operations, gives a rip
about-or even notices an individual entity among countless numbers on
Earth or through the universe, or anything else.
The list can continue through all the items in all the religions in
the world. This includes the concept in whatever form that said
entity is 'good,' 'just,' 'loving,' 'compassionate,' etc., when it
tortures whether for moments, years, or eternities, its synchophants.
Compared to that, anything else would come under sane.
What seems to unite these people is shame, shame about themselves or
their family or something. Nor moral guilt but shame. And I wonder if
that is part of what just jerks them about Clinton: he was not ashamed
of his background and not ashamed of his upbringing.
Could be. The reaction of the Republicans is well into psychopathic.
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted
father would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s
in the 80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover
model of a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find
hardest to accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
Might be something to privately track down and see what pops up. The
item(s) could very well have no connection with the topic(s) at all.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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23 Aug 2007 08:56:48 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:08:35 -0400, Matt Silberstein wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:11:55 -0500, in alt.atheism , "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> in <NZqdnYhZkfY2b1fbnZ2dnUVZ_uvinZ2d@giganews.com>
wrote:
Except, what the hell kind of household did Rove grow up in?
Rather R rated, I'd avoid opening at work or around kids:
http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20070818.html
Part of me is screaming that this just can't be true. Not that i have
any actual evidence* and I suspect it is true. But, really now. Isn't
there some law that limits the weirdness to the Universe? Can't we stop
at some point and say, enough is enough, things just can't get more
bizarre?
Apparently, no. <g>
What seems to unite these people is shame, shame about themselves or
their family or something. Nor moral guilt but shame. And I wonder if
that is part of what just jerks them about Clinton: he was not ashamed
of his background and not ashamed of his upbringing.
*I do wonder about the dates. Rove was born in 1950. His adopted father
would have been in his 40s, at least, in the 70s and in his 50s in the
80s. It is possible that a 50 years old man was a popular cover model of
a gay magazine, but it is the part of the story I find hardest to
accept. Which is telling on so many levels.
Well, keep in mind that we're talking <shudder> piercing. Something more
popular today (don't ask me why) but still something of a, ahem, "niche".
If you don't have a lot of people to choose from, you kind of settle for
what you can get?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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