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27 Apr 2006 07:05:03 AM |
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OT: In Memory of Salsa |
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog:
always happy to see me when I got home from work, infinitely patient with
the children, always up for a game of catch or keep away.
Naturally, there were lots of tears all around. My wife, a theist,
comforted the children by telling them how she is now playing fetch in
doggie heaven, and how she'll be waiting for us when it is our turn to go.
A pleasant thought, if you can believe it. I can't, of course.
It also gave me pause to consider the double standard. People who would
deem it "cruel" to let a crippled animal "suffer" would be horrified at
the thought of euthanizing a human being, even if the human requested it.
Don't we deserve the same compassion as a dog? People are funny like that.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 01:54:33 PM |
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"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.04.27.12.05.13.106889@stopspam.net...
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog:
always happy to see me when I got home from work, infinitely patient with
the children, always up for a game of catch or keep away.
Naturally, there were lots of tears all around. My wife, a theist,
comforted the children by telling them how she is now playing fetch in
doggie heaven, and how she'll be waiting for us when it is our turn to go.
A pleasant thought, if you can believe it. I can't, of course.
It also gave me pause to consider the double standard. People who would
deem it "cruel" to let a crippled animal "suffer" would be horrified at
the thought of euthanizing a human being, even if the human requested it.
Don't we deserve the same compassion as a dog? People are funny like
that.
I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I've been quite through quite a few
pets and know what it's like. And I know what you mean about the "double
standard". My father was miserable and in constant pain towards the end of
his life and express on many occasions that he wanted to die. If he was a
dog, he could have been quietly put to sleep.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: In Memory of Salsa |
28 Apr 2006 11:01:05 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:54:33 -0400, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
wrote:
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.04.27.12.05.13.106889@stopspam.net...
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog:
always happy to see me when I got home from work, infinitely patient with
the children, always up for a game of catch or keep away.
Naturally, there were lots of tears all around. My wife, a theist,
comforted the children by telling them how she is now playing fetch in
doggie heaven, and how she'll be waiting for us when it is our turn to go.
A pleasant thought, if you can believe it. I can't, of course.
It also gave me pause to consider the double standard. People who would
deem it "cruel" to let a crippled animal "suffer" would be horrified at
the thought of euthanizing a human being, even if the human requested it.
Don't we deserve the same compassion as a dog? People are funny like
that.
I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I've been quite through quite a few
pets and know what it's like. And I know what you mean about the "double
standard". My father was miserable and in constant pain towards the end of
his life and express on many occasions that he wanted to die. If he was a
dog, he could have been quietly put to sleep.
Instead we have "kill a baby, save a cat".
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 04:07:08 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized
yesterday. She was having increasing problems with hip and spine
arthritis, and was starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end.
She was a great dog: always happy to see me when I got home from
work, infinitely patient with the children, always up for a game of
catch or keep away.
Naturally, there were lots of tears all around. My wife, a theist,
comforted the children by telling them how she is now playing fetch in
doggie heaven, and how she'll be waiting for us when it is our turn
to go. A pleasant thought, if you can believe it. I can't, of course.
It also gave me pause to consider the double standard. People who
would deem it "cruel" to let a crippled animal "suffer" would be
horrified at the thought of euthanizing a human being, even if the
human requested it. Don't we deserve the same compassion as a dog?
People are funny like that.
Yes we do. Child labor laws grew out of animal cruelty laws and maybe some
day a model for letting people die in dignity will grow out of it.
Until then there are cheap , painless, and drugless ways to go.
Sorry about your dog. Cecil, the pup that jumped in my car 15 years ago is
getting near that point.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 04:18:12 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:07:08 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry about your dog. Cecil, the pup that jumped in my car 15 years ago is
getting near that point.
It hurts. When they get old you give them so much love, and that's
what keeps them gong. Which makes it hurt even more.
When I emigrated to the USA I brought my two cats with me. One of them
lived to be 19 1/2, and I was devastated when he died. I now have two
more, both rescued.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 06:59:03 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:07:08 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry about your dog. Cecil, the pup that jumped in my car 15 years ago is
getting near that point.
It hurts. When they get old you give them so much love, and that's
what keeps them gong. Which makes it hurt even more.
When I emigrated to the USA I brought my two cats with me. One of them
lived to be 19 1/2, and I was devastated when he died. I now have two
more, both rescued.
I have one that's about 18. Damn, cats live a long time. Three months
ago the vet discovered a heart murmur, and took a blood test. The test
revealed the beginning of kidney failure. But the cat refuses to throw
in the towel. Just this morning she was bouncing off the walls like a
kitten.
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Member, Earthquack's 666 club
Supervisor, EAC department of little adhesive-backed shiny plastic
L-shaped doo-dads to add feet to Jesus Fish department
It is safe to say that the bible contains equal amounts of fact, history
and pizza.
-Penn Jillette
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: OT: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 06:55:11 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog:
always happy to see me when I got home from work, infinitely patient with
the children, always up for a game of catch or keep away.
I'm deeply sorry about your loss. I lost a 13 year old Australian
Shepherd pretty much the same way. She died in my arms at the vet's.
When you can see the pain in their eyes, it's time. Unfortunately, they
don't last forever.
Naturally, there were lots of tears all around. My wife, a theist,
comforted the children by telling them how she is now playing fetch in
doggie heaven, and how she'll be waiting for us when it is our turn to go.
A pleasant thought, if you can believe it. I can't, of course.
I have seen firsthand how that thought is comforting, especially if it
was a human being that died unexpectedly, such as a child being struck
by a car. The notion that you will never see them again is almost
impossible to bear, even if it's only a beloved old dog that's involved.
It also gave me pause to consider the double standard. People who would
deem it "cruel" to let a crippled animal "suffer" would be horrified at
the thought of euthanizing a human being, even if the human requested it.
Don't we deserve the same compassion as a dog? People are funny like that.
The parents of Terri Schiavo come to mind.
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Member, Earthquack's 666 club
Supervisor, EAC department of little adhesive-backed shiny plastic
L-shaped doo-dads to add feet to Jesus Fish department
It is safe to say that the bible contains equal amounts of fact, history
and pizza.
-Penn Jillette
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: OT: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 04:23:26 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog[.]
<Snip remainder for bandwidth>
Oh, Mark, I'm *so* sorry. Losing a furry family member is every bit as
bad as losing a human family member, in my opinion.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: OT: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 05:03:41 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:23:26 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
MarkA wrote:
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog[.]
<Snip remainder for bandwidth>
Oh, Mark, I'm *so* sorry. Losing a furry family member is every bit as
bad as losing a human family member, in my opinion.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Thanks for the sympathy. The *worst* part is that we still have two
dysfunctional cats (is that being redundant?), and no canine to keep them
honest! :)
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: OT: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 05:07:56 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:23:26 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
MarkA wrote:
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog[.]
<Snip remainder for bandwidth>
Oh, Mark, I'm *so* sorry. Losing a furry family member is every bit as
bad as losing a human family member, in my opinion.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Thanks for the sympathy. The *worst* part is that we still have two
dysfunctional cats (is that being redundant?), and no canine to keep them
honest! :)
The six cats I live with assure me that all cats are perfectly
functional; it's only humans and dogs who are dysfunctional.
Of course, they have a bit of an axe to grind.... ;->
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: OT: In Memory of Salsa |
27 Apr 2006 07:00:10 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:23:26 -0700, skyeyes wrote:
MarkA wrote:
We had our 12 year old Labrador Retriever, Salsa, euthanized yesterday.
She was having increasing problems with hip and spine arthritis, and was
starting to deteriorate rapidly toward the end. She was a great dog[.]
<Snip remainder for bandwidth>
Oh, Mark, I'm *so* sorry. Losing a furry family member is every bit as
bad as losing a human family member, in my opinion.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
Thanks for the sympathy. The *worst* part is that we still have two
dysfunctional cats (is that being redundant?), and no canine to keep them
honest! :)
Time to go shopping!
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Member, Earthquack's 666 club
Supervisor, EAC department of little adhesive-backed shiny plastic
L-shaped doo-dads to add feet to Jesus Fish department
It is safe to say that the bible contains equal amounts of fact, history
and pizza.
-Penn Jillette
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