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17 Jul 2004 02:33:04 AM |
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OT: Introducing Del-Qaida |
Introducing Del-Qaida
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1263360,00.html
Worried about losing money, the entertainment business is peddling
false links between DVD pirates and terror cells
Duncan Campbell
Saturday July 17, 2004
The Guardian
If you buy a pirated DVD from a bloke in the pub, you could be
personally responsible for the deaths of innocent women and children
in terrorist attacks. That, essentially, is the message being promoted
this week by the Industry Trust for Intellectual Property Awareness
(Itipa), the body that represents some of the world's largest film
companies. This week it launched a £1.5m "public awareness campaign"
to inform people of supposed links between the "Del Boy" characters
who sell pirate DVDs and terrorist cells.
Duncan Campbell
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=18510aff.0311290158.475f731b%40posting.google.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Introducing Del-Qaida |
18 Jul 2004 09:54:13 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:33:04 -0700 in episode
<18510aff.0407162333.42eb445b@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
maff91@yahoo.com (maff):
Worried about losing money, the entertainment business is peddling false
links between DVD pirates and terror cells
It's time to shorten copyright to no more than 20 years. And public domain
all copyrights currently held that have exceeded that length of time.
Also, it's time to eliminate the holding of copyrights by corporations.
Only individuals should be granted copyrights. Only people who actually
*create something should be granted copyrights. All copyrights held by
corporations should be reverted to the actual creators of the material. If
they are not presently living, the material should immediately enter the
public domain.
And if the corporations squawk, abolish copyright entirely...
(Hey, ya gotta dream)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
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| User: "Ichimusai" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Introducing Del-Qaida |
18 Jul 2004 10:55:41 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
It's time to shorten copyright to no more than 20 years. And public
domain all copyrights currently held that have exceeded that length
of time.
The day some big corp. has the money to fund such a campaign would be
a very interesting day indeed... as long as the variety of democracy
in the free world is based on who has the best funding it's not really
gonna happen, is it?
Also, it's time to eliminate the holding of copyrights by
corporations. Only individuals should be granted copyrights.
I would agree to individual life time copyrights even. It would be a
lot better than what we have today...
Only people who actually *create something should be granted
copyrights. All copyrights held by corporations should be reverted
to the actual creators of the material.
Who is the copyright holder of a film with several hundreds of people
in all chipping in to the entire creation?
--
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trots allt är ju nallen totalt värdelöst om man inte har
ett nät som fungerar och har fungerande abbonemang.
- fortfarande betalar man för vackra glasbitar med
guld...
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Introducing Del-Qaida |
18 Jul 2004 11:52:28 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:55:41 +0200 in episode
<m37jt148ea.fsf@ichimusai.dyndns.org> we saw our hero Ichimusai
<ichi@ichimusai.org>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:
It's time to shorten copyright to no more than 20 years. And public
domain all copyrights currently held that have exceeded that length of
time.
The day some big corp. has the money to fund such a campaign would be a
very interesting day indeed... as long as the variety of democracy in the
free world is based on who has the best funding it's not really gonna
happen, is it?
Also, it's time to eliminate the holding of copyrights by corporations.
Only individuals should be granted copyrights.
I would agree to individual life time copyrights even. It would be a lot
better than what we have today...
Only people who actually *create something should be granted copyrights.
All copyrights held by corporations should be reverted to the actual
creators of the material.
Who is the copyright holder of a film with several hundreds of people in
all chipping in to the entire creation?
Dunno. But whatever they worked out, it would have to be something held by
*individuals. Not fake "persons" who exist only as stacks of papers. If I
can't shake your hand, you can't have a copyright. Corporations don't
create. People create.
If they couldn't figure out a way to do it, then they just can't have a
copyright. We don't *owe anybody one.
What's forgotten in the "debate" these days is that a copyright or a
patent is a *monopoly *grant that we ("the people" as it were) *give
someone. The intention was a limited monopoly grant to enable someone who
was creative to make some money off his/her creation(s) to encourage them
to keep creating.
The *point was to create a steady stream of materials going into public
domain. The forgotten element is that public domain *IS* the point. Since
nothing enters public domain anymore, the social contract has been broken.
We should terminate the agreement and withdraw our *voluntary protection.
Let them fend for themselves.
(The right loves to talk about strict interpretation of the
Constitution... let them note there is *NO* right to copyrights nor
patent... no such right exists, no such right was envisioned)
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Introducing Del-Qaida |
18 Jul 2004 07:58:40 AM |
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maff wrote:
Introducing Del-Qaida
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1263360,00.html
Worried about losing money, the entertainment business is peddling
false links between DVD pirates and terror cells
Duncan Campbell
Saturday July 17, 2004
The Guardian
Further down the article we come to ........
'A couple of years ago, the Bush administration launched a major
anti-drugs television campaign. It showed teenagers "confessing" to
having killed a judge or a police officer because they had used drugs,
and it said that drugs funded terrorism. Even if you were just having a
joint in your back yard, the ad said, you could be helping terrorists.
This was nonsense. The main profiteers from drugs in the US are American
citizens who, if they are smart, vote Republican to ensure that the
value of their product remains artificially high. '
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Yip indeed.
Legalise it..and do it now !
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Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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