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"maff" |
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12 Jul 2005 05:20:15 AM |
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OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
A new political response is needed that has more to do with engaging
communities than restricting liberties
Brian Brivati
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Would 7/7 have happened, and would it have been more or less deadly, if
we had not liberated Afghanistan and Iraq? Should our policy be changed
now? Is it time to run and hide?
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of the
old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The invasion of
Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing a new
generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
Brian Brivati
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/c04db70ef1600ad9
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| User: "Bishop Smove" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
12 Jul 2005 05:26:42 AM |
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maff wrote:
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of the
old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The invasion of
Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing a new
generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
http://www.nyanko.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fas/bestiary_ostrich.html
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
12 Jul 2005 06:04:18 AM |
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maff wrote:
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
A new political response is needed that has more to do with engaging
communities than restricting liberties
Brian Brivati
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Would 7/7 have happened, and would it have been more or less deadly, if
we had not liberated Afghanistan and Iraq? Should our policy be changed
now? Is it time to run and hide?
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of the
old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The invasion of
Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing a new
generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
Huh? Afghanistan I can buy, but how on Earth does
invading Iraq deter states from supporting terrorism?
We invaded Iraq because of WMDs or to free the people
(I forget this week's reason), nobody said anything
about terrorism at the time.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
12 Jul 2005 07:27:04 AM |
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Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote in
news:SsNAe.25742$O22.6843@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
maff wrote:
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
A new political response is needed that has more to do with engaging
communities than restricting liberties
Brian Brivati
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Would 7/7 have happened, and would it have been more or less deadly,
if we had not liberated Afghanistan and Iraq? Should our policy be
changed now? Is it time to run and hide?
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of
the old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The
invasion of Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing a
new generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
Huh? Afghanistan I can buy, but how on Earth does
invading Iraq deter states from supporting terrorism?
We invaded Iraq because of WMDs or to free the people
(I forget this week's reason), nobody said anything
about terrorism at the time.
Yes, they did say things about Saddam's support for terrorism before the
invasion.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
12 Jul 2005 08:01:47 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote in
news:SsNAe.25742$O22.6843@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
maff wrote:
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
A new political response is needed that has more to do with engaging
communities than restricting liberties
Brian Brivati
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Would 7/7 have happened, and would it have been more or less deadly,
if we had not liberated Afghanistan and Iraq? Should our policy be
changed now? Is it time to run and hide?
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of
the old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The
invasion of Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing a
new generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
Huh? Afghanistan I can buy, but how on Earth does
invading Iraq deter states from supporting terrorism?
We invaded Iraq because of WMDs or to free the people
(I forget this week's reason), nobody said anything
about terrorism at the time.
Yes, they did say things about Saddam's support for terrorism before the
invasion.
They did? I don't recall Blair ever saying that. It was
all about WMD over here, then shifted to being all about
the poor opressed Iraqi people.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
12 Jul 2005 10:44:34 AM |
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Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote in
news:%aPAe.25845$O22.12374@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
Fred Stone wrote:
Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote in
news:SsNAe.25742$O22.6843@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
maff wrote:
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
A new political response is needed that has more to do with engaging
communities than restricting liberties
Brian Brivati
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Would 7/7 have happened, and would it have been more or less deadly,
if we had not liberated Afghanistan and Iraq? Should our policy be
changed now? Is it time to run and hide?
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of
the old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The
invasion of Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing
a new generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
Huh? Afghanistan I can buy, but how on Earth does
invading Iraq deter states from supporting terrorism?
We invaded Iraq because of WMDs or to free the people
(I forget this week's reason), nobody said anything
about terrorism at the time.
Yes, they did say things about Saddam's support for terrorism before
the invasion.
They did? I don't recall Blair ever saying that. It was
all about WMD over here, then shifted to being all about
the poor opressed Iraqi people.
Bush did discuss the terrorism angle. It was even incorporated in the
Congressional resolution that authorized the invasion of Iraq.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Invasion reduced the threat of terror |
12 Jul 2005 06:36:19 AM |
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Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org> wrote in news:SsNAe.25742$O22.6843
@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk:
maff wrote:
Invasion reduced the threat of terror
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1526500,00.html
A new political response is needed that has more to do with engaging
communities than restricting liberties
Brian Brivati
Tuesday July 12, 2005
The Guardian
Would 7/7 have happened, and would it have been more or less deadly,
if
we had not liberated Afghanistan and Iraq? Should our policy be
changed
now? Is it time to run and hide?
The invasion of Afghanistan significantly reduced the capability of
the
old al-Qaida by removing the only regime it controlled. The invasion
of
Iraq acted as a deterrent to states that were nurturing a new
generation of loosely affiliated "network terrorists".
Huh? Afghanistan I can buy, but how on Earth does
invading Iraq deter states from supporting terrorism?
We invaded Iraq because of WMDs or to free the people
(I forget this week's reason), nobody said anything
about terrorism at the time.
Well, the security services in both the US and the UK said an invasion of
Iraq would most probably increase the threat of terrorism in those
countries !
--
Jez, MBA.,
Country Dancing and Advanced Astrology, UBS.
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
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