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"Doc Smartass" |
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03 Feb 2004 06:32:42 PM |
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OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Dissent is not a right.
It is a RESPONSIBILITY.
--me.
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
06 Feb 2004 05:06:57 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.04.14.20.06.470983@hoo.com-amikchi>...
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:40:38 +0000 didst Robibnikoff speak
thusly:
In article <pan.2004.02.04.03.50.06.686298@hoo.com-amikchi>, Mark K. Bilbo
says...
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:32:42 +0000 didst Doc Smartass speak
thusly:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Can you believe the uproar?
And, okay, so they want me to believe that the audience of a major
football game is offended at the sight of a breast.
Lemme try this again. The audience of *football is offended at the sight
of a breast.
Wait... am I missing something here?
Seriously, you don't think those guys go to Hooters just for the chicken wings,
no do you?
From the way everybody is talking, you'd think they'd be in church instead
of watching the game anyway...
I have a lot of teen students who were watching the game _at_ church!
-LisaKay
aa #2054
pp #1
I'm really proud of that porcupine point! :-)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
09 Feb 2004 11:22:25 AM |
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On 6 Feb 2004 15:06:57 -0800, (LisaKay), Message
ID: <1dbe2aec.0402061506.389bbed4@posting.google.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.04.14.20.06.470983@hoo.com-amikchi>...
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:40:38 +0000 didst Robibnikoff speak
thusly:
In article <pan.2004.02.04.03.50.06.686298@hoo.com-amikchi>, Mark K. Bilbo
says...
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:32:42 +0000 didst Doc Smartass speak
thusly:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Can you believe the uproar?
And, okay, so they want me to believe that the audience of a major
football game is offended at the sight of a breast.
Lemme try this again. The audience of *football is offended at the sight
of a breast.
Wait... am I missing something here?
Seriously, you don't think those guys go to Hooters just for the chicken wings,
no do you?
From the way everybody is talking, you'd think they'd be in church instead
of watching the game anyway...
I have a lot of teen students who were watching the game _at_ church!
Hmmmm.......I wonder what would happen if we combined things and
inserted the fictional christian world into the mix.
Scenario.......
It wasn't Janet and Jason on stage but Jesus and Mary. And Mary dropped
her top as the 'blow-off' part of the act. The difference would be
instead of seeing a part of a middle-aged woman's breast these
christians saw a pair which would have won the 'Golden Globes' award
(deliberate word play).
Would christians fall all over themselves in a race to see who would
take the 'Emmy' for fawning and supplication or would they explode in
'righteous rage(tm)?'
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
05 Feb 2004 09:54:08 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:50:06 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi>,
Message ID: <pan.2004.02.04.03.50.06.686298@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
alt.atheism;
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:32:42 +0000 didst Doc Smartass speak
thusly:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Can you believe the uproar?
And, okay, so they want me to believe that the audience of a major
football game is offended at the sight of a breast.
Lemme try this again. The audience of *football is offended at the sight
of a breast.
Wait... am I missing something here?
Just vastly overstating the I.Q.'s of the audience as well as their
educational levels.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
05 Feb 2004 03:40:20 AM |
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Doc Smartass wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section....
....for a split second, after that flash of fire following the 'unveiling'
it could have been the second coming of christ'!
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Dissent is not a right.
It is a RESPONSIBILITY.
--me.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
04 Feb 2004 12:58:56 AM |
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In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
05 Feb 2004 09:58:17 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
06 Feb 2004 12:58:35 AM |
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In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
07 Feb 2004 11:57:48 AM |
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:58:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-A918FA.22583505022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
Or the billions stolen by Enron.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
08 Feb 2004 12:50:23 AM |
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In article <bo9a20hdpkvija6ipo1tfgvoflbi9jm949@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:58:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-A918FA.22583505022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and
the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
Or the billions stolen by Enron.
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our citizens...
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
09 Feb 2004 11:24:19 AM |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-00A8EF.22502307022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <bo9a20hdpkvija6ipo1tfgvoflbi9jm949@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:58:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-A918FA.22583505022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and
the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
Or the billions stolen by Enron.
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
10 Feb 2004 12:43:17 AM |
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In article <lfgf201s40feh8m4lepgrup8f5ev3ldgro@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-00A8EF.22502307022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <bo9a20hdpkvija6ipo1tfgvoflbi9jm949@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:58:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-A918FA.22583505022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote
in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and
the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only
a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
Or the billions stolen by Enron.
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
And it could also pay for a lot of research to develop treatmenst for
AIDS, cancer, and many of the other diseases that beset us.
Even if the money did nothing, 534 (at last count) more Americans would
be alive today.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
11 Feb 2004 09:24:55 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:43:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-CE7A17.22431709022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <lfgf201s40feh8m4lepgrup8f5ev3ldgro@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-00A8EF.22502307022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <bo9a20hdpkvija6ipo1tfgvoflbi9jm949@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:58:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-A918FA.22583505022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote
in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and
the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only
a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
Or the billions stolen by Enron.
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
And it could also pay for a lot of research to develop treatmenst for
AIDS, cancer, and many of the other diseases that beset us.
Even if the money did nothing, 534 (at last count) more Americans would
be alive today.
I see the military got blind-sided and don't have enough prosthetics and
other items for those who lost limbs. ***** poor planning strikes again.
(Either that or the requests weren't funded)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
12 Feb 2004 01:28:07 AM |
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In article <f5ik20pg75n96724tm619fqjd993bm668u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:43:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-CE7A17.22431709022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <lfgf201s40feh8m4lepgrup8f5ev3ldgro@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 22:50:23 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-00A8EF.22502307022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <bo9a20hdpkvija6ipo1tfgvoflbi9jm949@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 22:58:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-A918FA.22583505022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote
in
alt.atheism;
In article <l54620l1mgt3l5fgg1vad8mrl7aau0i633@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 22:58:56 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com>
wrote
in
alt.atheism;
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page
and
the
Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was
only
a
breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more
important things going on in the country and the world to concern
the
media. Get over it people!
It's an excellant avenue to divert the brainless mob's attention
from
important items.
Hey, honey, I can see her tit! Who gives a **** about the ****ing war!
Or the billions stolen by Enron.
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
And it could also pay for a lot of research to develop treatmenst for
AIDS, cancer, and many of the other diseases that beset us.
Even if the money did nothing, 534 (at last count) more Americans would
be alive today.
I see the military got blind-sided and don't have enough prosthetics and
other items for those who lost limbs. ***** poor planning strikes again.
(Either that or the requests weren't funded)
I don't think that enough has been made in the press about some of the
lousy care that our wounded guys get, even when they get home.
According to some reports, they are shoved into dilapidated facilities
with leaky roofs, not enough beds, not enough doctors or nurses to take
care of them. Now this. Bush sends them off to a crappy unjustified war,
and now we can't even take care of them when they get hurt? Anyone in
the service who votes for Bush is nuts.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT? JACKSON'S TIT SIGNIFIES END OF WORLD!! |
13 Feb 2004 08:54:15 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:28:07 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-135754.23280711022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <f5ik20pg75n96724tm619fqjd993bm668u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:43:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-CE7A17.22431709022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
(snip)
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
And it could also pay for a lot of research to develop treatmenst for
AIDS, cancer, and many of the other diseases that beset us.
Even if the money did nothing, 534 (at last count) more Americans would
be alive today.
I see the military got blind-sided and don't have enough prosthetics and
other items for those who lost limbs. ***** poor planning strikes again.
(Either that or the requests weren't funded)
I don't think that enough has been made in the press about some of the
lousy care that our wounded guys get, even when they get home.
According to some reports, they are shoved into dilapidated facilities
with leaky roofs, not enough beds, not enough doctors or nurses to take
care of them. Now this. Bush sends them off to a crappy unjustified war,
and now we can't even take care of them when they get hurt? Anyone in
the service who votes for Bush is nuts.
Not necessarily. Keep in mind the news they get is extremely filtered.
With long duty hours the focus is on trying to get some sleep.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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14 Feb 2004 01:04:29 AM |
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In article <4c3r20p61geff0foiruhhka8mv6n9ibhvu@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:28:07 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-135754.23280711022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <f5ik20pg75n96724tm619fqjd993bm668u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:43:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-CE7A17.22431709022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
(snip)
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or
the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our
citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way
toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
And it could also pay for a lot of research to develop treatmenst for
AIDS, cancer, and many of the other diseases that beset us.
Even if the money did nothing, 534 (at last count) more Americans would
be alive today.
I see the military got blind-sided and don't have enough prosthetics and
other items for those who lost limbs. ***** poor planning strikes again.
(Either that or the requests weren't funded)
I don't think that enough has been made in the press about some of the
lousy care that our wounded guys get, even when they get home.
According to some reports, they are shoved into dilapidated facilities
with leaky roofs, not enough beds, not enough doctors or nurses to take
care of them. Now this. Bush sends them off to a crappy unjustified war,
and now we can't even take care of them when they get hurt? Anyone in
the service who votes for Bush is nuts.
Not necessarily. Keep in mind the news they get is extremely filtered.
With long duty hours the focus is on trying to get some sleep.
The ones in the field, but I'm sure that those based in the US and
ex-service personnel get a better picture.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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15 Feb 2004 09:33:10 AM |
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According to some reports, they are shoved into dilapidated facilities
with leaky roofs, not enough beds, not enough doctors or nurses to take
care of them. Now this. Bush sends them off to a crappy unjustified war,
and now we can't even take care of them when they get hurt? Anyone in
the service who votes for Bush is nuts.
Not necessarily. Keep in mind the news they get is extremely filtered.
With long duty hours the focus is on trying to get some sleep.
The ones in the field, but I'm sure that those based in the US and
ex-service personnel get a better picture.
The incident that the poster was refering to happened in the US after wounded
troops had been rotated back to CONUS. The service has been exceptionally
reticent to give proper medical care to wounded guardmen and reservists.
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/1186.html
However, after the story got to be widely known the military decided to act.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=1208
Whether or not this has had any long term effect, I do not know.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "johac" |
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15 Feb 2004 10:47:57 PM |
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In article <20040215103310.06160.00000608@mb-m21.aol.com>,
forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert) wrote:
According to some reports, they are shoved into dilapidated facilities
with leaky roofs, not enough beds, not enough doctors or nurses to take
care of them. Now this. Bush sends them off to a crappy unjustified war,
and now we can't even take care of them when they get hurt? Anyone in
the service who votes for Bush is nuts.
Not necessarily. Keep in mind the news they get is extremely filtered.
With long duty hours the focus is on trying to get some sleep.
The ones in the field, but I'm sure that those based in the US and
ex-service personnel get a better picture.
The incident that the poster was refering to happened in the US after wounded
troops had been rotated back to CONUS. The service has been exceptionally
reticent to give proper medical care to wounded guardmen and reservists.
http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/iraq/1186.html
However, after the story got to be widely known the military decided to act.
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/newsArticle.asp?id=1208
Whether or not this has had any long term effect, I do not know.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
Yes, this is what I was referring to. Thanks for the link, I had lost
mine. I hope that the second article is correct and the government and
the military will start taking better care of their own wounded, but
it's a shame that the report had to come out before they reacted. I hope
that it has a long lasting effect, but in this crazy time of budget
cutting on the one hand, and profligate spending for irrelevant wars on
the other, who knows what will happen.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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15 Feb 2004 11:54:07 PM |
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Yes, this is what I was referring to. Thanks for the link, I had lost
mine. I hope that the second article is correct and the government and
the military will start taking better care of their own wounded, but
it's a shame that the report had to come out before they reacted. I hope
that it has a long lasting effect, but in this crazy time of budget
cutting on the one hand, and profligate spending for irrelevant wars on
the other, who knows what will happen.
Having considerable first hand experience on how the military medical system
does, or more accurately does not work, I was not terribly surprised to hear
about what was happening to wounded servicemen quartered at Ft. Stewart and
also at Ft. Knox. USAMEDDAC is, with very few exceptions, a bureaucratic
nightmare and a political boondoggle and is forced to use physicians of less
than stellar credentials and quality. What I believe that long term effect of
what happened at Ft. Stewy will be is to clear the backlog there only to have
it popup somewhere else unnoticed like Ft. Jackson or MacDill AFB.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "johac" |
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16 Feb 2004 11:51:59 PM |
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In article <20040216005407.21868.00001595@mb-m25.aol.com>,
forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert) wrote:
Yes, this is what I was referring to. Thanks for the link, I had lost
mine. I hope that the second article is correct and the government and
the military will start taking better care of their own wounded, but
it's a shame that the report had to come out before they reacted. I hope
that it has a long lasting effect, but in this crazy time of budget
cutting on the one hand, and profligate spending for irrelevant wars on
the other, who knows what will happen.
Having considerable first hand experience on how the military medical system
does, or more accurately does not work, I was not terribly surprised to hear
about what was happening to wounded servicemen quartered at Ft. Stewart and
also at Ft. Knox. USAMEDDAC is, with very few exceptions, a bureaucratic
nightmare and a political boondoggle and is forced to use physicians of less
than stellar credentials and quality. What I believe that long term effect of
what happened at Ft. Stewy will be is to clear the backlog there only to have
it popup somewhere else unnoticed like Ft. Jackson or MacDill AFB.
This is a disgrace. If we are going to put brave young men and women in
danger, the least we can do is look after them properly if they get
hurt. this should be another campaign issue. Bush started a war in which
we were unprepared to take care of our casualties.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Feb 2004 07:00:40 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 23:04:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-5DE99F.23042913022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <4c3r20p61geff0foiruhhka8mv6n9ibhvu@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:28:07 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-135754.23280711022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <f5ik20pg75n96724tm619fqjd993bm668u@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:43:17 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>,
Message ID: <jhachm-CE7A17.22431709022004@news-60.giganews.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
(snip)
Or the deficit that's eating our future. Or the loss of our jobs. Or
the
loss of our civil rights. Or the trashing of our environment. Or that
we are unable to provide adequate medical care for all of our
citizens...
The few hundred Billion wasted in Iraq would have gone a long way
toward
equipping hospitals and training doctors and nurses.
And it could also pay for a lot of research to develop treatmenst for
AIDS, cancer, and many of the other diseases that beset us.
Even if the money did nothing, 534 (at last count) more Americans would
be alive today.
I see the military got blind-sided and don't have enough prosthetics and
other items for those who lost limbs. ***** poor planning strikes again.
(Either that or the requests weren't funded)
I don't think that enough has been made in the press about some of the
lousy care that our wounded guys get, even when they get home.
According to some reports, they are shoved into dilapidated facilities
with leaky roofs, not enough beds, not enough doctors or nurses to take
care of them. Now this. Bush sends them off to a crappy unjustified war,
and now we can't even take care of them when they get hurt? Anyone in
the service who votes for Bush is nuts.
Not necessarily. Keep in mind the news they get is extremely filtered.
With long duty hours the focus is on trying to get some sleep.
The ones in the field, but I'm sure that those based in the US and
ex-service personnel get a better picture.
Based in the U.S., I can't say. I don't know to what degree, or how,
others being deployed is effecting them.
As for ex-service personnel, certainly they do.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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04 Feb 2004 12:45:08 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front
page and the Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only
a breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more important things going on in the country and the world to concern
the media. Get over it people!
Indeed.
We need fair and balanced coverage--or, more accurately, _un_-coverage, of
the other one =D
--
Dr. Smartass, amused by the hysterics
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Dissent is not a right.
It is a RESPONSIBILITY.
--me.
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| User: "johac" |
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05 Feb 2004 12:40:28 AM |
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In article <Xns948582A02654Baskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front
page and the Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only
a breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more important things going on in the country and the world to concern
the media. Get over it people!
Indeed.
We need fair and balanced coverage--or, more accurately, _un_-coverage, of
the other one =D
Let's all write in to CBS and the FCC and demand equal time for the left
one.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "bob young" |
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05 Feb 2004 08:45:39 PM |
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johac wrote:
In article <Xns948582A02654Baskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front
page and the Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only
a breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more important things going on in the country and the world to concern
the media. Get over it people!
Indeed.
We need fair and balanced coverage--or, more accurately, _un_-coverage, of
the other one =D
Let's all write in to CBS and the FCC and demand equal time for the left
one...
....hee hee,,, she needs to prove she has one!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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06 Feb 2004 01:00:06 AM |
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In article <4022FE59.D1C8F3B6@netvigator.com>,
bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <Xns948582A02654Baskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-C327F8.22585603022004@news-60.giganews.com:
In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>,
Doc Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the
local paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front
page and the Life section.
Trivial things worry trivial people. I still say big deal. It was only
a breast. And it only showed for about two seconds. Surely there are
more important things going on in the country and the world to concern
the media. Get over it people!
Indeed.
We need fair and balanced coverage--or, more accurately, _un_-coverage, of
the other one =D
Let's all write in to CBS and the FCC and demand equal time for the left
one...
...hee hee,,, she needs to prove she has one!
I wouldn't take anybody's word for it. Let's see the evidence!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "William Klee" |
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03 Feb 2004 08:38:31 PM |
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In article <Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
That should obviously be the Get A Life section, as in "get a life, you
morons! It's only a tit." Jesus Fucking Doesn't Exist Christ! If
someone had brandished a gun (real or fake) there wouldn't be *half*
this much fuss. There's something fucking *wrong* with a culture where
a life-giving and affirming *tit* draws more flak than a killing tool.
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| User: "stoney" |
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05 Feb 2004 09:52:49 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 00:32:42 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>, Message ID:
<Xns9484BD455F5F5askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18> wrote in alt.atheism;
Well, maybe not--but it's in keeping with all the hysteria in the local
paper, which put the story above the fold on both the front page and the
Life section.
The latter section should be labled the "Get a life" section.
Damn. 9 billion dollars lost to California from Enron.
100 Billion lost, plus hundreds of lives, in the get the oil reserves
game.
And all the hullabaloo is about seeing as much of a middle-aged woman's
breast as in a low-cut evening gown. :\ Damned children in adult
bodies.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "anne marie hovgaard" |
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06 Feb 2004 01:32:33 PM |
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Actually, this story made the news over here as well (Norway). Not
that anyone cared about her (nice enough, but nothing out of the
ordinary) tits - we just found the American reaction to one naked
breast on TV amusing. A couple of weeks ago a guy waved his penis
around as part of jack-*****-type stunt in a popular crazy-comedy show
on Norw. national television. Most newspapers wrote about it and it
was discussed in one or two talkshows, some said it was "unfortunate"
and they really wished comedy shows would be more like in the good old
days when they were younger, while other commentators thought it was a
bit vulgar, but really funny (he wanted to see if it was more
intelligent than a sausage...). The next day they did a re-run so all
those who missed it could get a chance to see it.
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Feb 2004 11:40:41 AM |
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On 6 Feb 2004 11:32:33 -0800, (anne marie hovgaard),
Message ID: <705782b9.0402061132.2bd155ec@posting.google.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Actually, this story made the news over here as well (Norway). Not
that anyone cared about her (nice enough, but nothing out of the
ordinary) tits - we just found the American reaction to one naked
breast on TV amusing. A couple of weeks ago a guy waved his penis
around as part of jack-*****-type stunt in a popular crazy-comedy show
on Norw. national television. Most newspapers wrote about it and it
was discussed in one or two talkshows, some said it was "unfortunate"
and they really wished comedy shows would be more like in the good old
days when they were younger, while other commentators thought it was a
bit vulgar, but really funny (he wanted to see if it was more
intelligent than a sausage...). The next day they did a re-run so all
those who missed it could get a chance to see it.
God ettermiddag Anne Marie;
I'm not surprised the news story went world-wide. The ignorance of many
Americans I find quite embarrassing. Once again the U.S. motto "Land
of the Free and Home of the Brave" is shown to be wrong.
A reaction like you indicate above would be the adult one. But then,
what can be expected from a country founded by religious extremists?
We, as a country, would have been much better off getting the convicts.
Have all the news stories about the science education battles made it to
Norway?
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "anne marie hovgaard" |
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10 Feb 2004 05:48:44 AM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
Have all the news stories about the science education battles made it to
Norway?
I don't think I've ever heard anything about it on the (TV) news, it's
more a matter for the Sunday editions of newspapers, alongside stories
about rat-feeding festivals in India and the difficult situation for
women in Afghanistan. It is hard to believe - and frightening!- that
so many people take the Adam-and-Eve story seriously, as "science", in
a nation we really, really hope is more or less civilised, as it's
powerful enough to wipe out all of us if it wants to.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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10 Feb 2004 08:37:35 AM |
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And so upon Tue, 10 Feb 2004 03:48:44 -0800 didst anne marie hovgaard
speak thusly:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
Have all the news stories about the science education battles made it to
Norway?
I don't think I've ever heard anything about it on the (TV) news, it's
more a matter for the Sunday editions of newspapers, alongside stories
about rat-feeding festivals in India and the difficult situation for
women in Afghanistan. It is hard to believe - and frightening!- that
so many people take the Adam-and-Eve story seriously, as "science", in
a nation we really, really hope is more or less civilised, as it's
powerful enough to wipe out all of us if it wants to.
Hm... then you probably don't want to know just how far we've slid back
into superstition over here...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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