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Topic:	Religions > Atheism
User:	"Therion Ware"
Date:	05 Mar 2004 10:17:09 AM
Object:	OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care

Top Bush aide in intensive care
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3537293.stm

US Attorney General John Ashcroft is in intensive care undergoing
treatment for problems with his pancreas.
The 61-year-old former Missouri senator has a severe case of gallstone
pancreatitis, his chief spokesman said.
Mr Ashcroft had to cancel an engagement on Thursday due to what he
thought was a stomach bug, but a White House doctor sent him to
hospital.
He is being treated with antibiotics and is expected to spend several
days in hospital.

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User: "Clayton the Doormat...Walk All Over Me Ladies"
Title: Re: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 06:39:43 PM

"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:vu9h40pqkh46dptpjv4p8e9unnj3dv2cj2@4ax.com...

I heard he had an ***** transplant...but the ***** rejected him!
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User: "johac"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 02:47:44 AM

In article <vu9h40pqkh46dptpjv4p8e9unnj3dv2cj2@4ax.com>,
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:

I heard that he was suffering from rectal - cranial inversion.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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User: "Lee Dimas"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 11:18:54 AM

In article <vu9h40pqkh46dptpjv4p8e9unnj3dv2cj2@4ax.com>,
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:

What, doesn't he believe in the power of his God to heal him?
Apparently modern medicine, as flawed as it is, is more reliable than an
omnipotent deity...
Lee Dimas
aa#11101111001
Surely you can figure out my address.
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User: "Sean C"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 12:56:12 PM

In article <vu9h40pqkh46dptpjv4p8e9unnj3dv2cj2@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:

Top Bush aide in intensive care
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3537293.stm

<subliminal message> PULL THE FUCKING PLUG!!!! </end subliminal message>
Sean C
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User: "quibbler"
Title: I hope that * Ashcroft DIES!!!!	05 Mar 2004 10:48:34 AM

In article <vu9h40pqkh46dptpjv4p8e9unnj3dv2cj2@4ax.com>, autodelete@city-
of-dis.com says...

I wonder what Ashcroft really has. Maybe he got aids from Rick Perry.
In any event I expect that ashcroft will claim that god miraculously
guided his treatment.
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disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
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eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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User: "duke"
Title: Re: I hope that * Ashcroft DIES!!!!	06 Mar 2004 07:13:20 AM

On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:48:34 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:

Mr Ashcroft had to cancel an engagement on Thursday due to what he
thought was a stomach bug, but a White House doctor sent him to
hospital.

He is being treated with antibiotics and is expected to spend several
days in hospital.

I wonder what Ashcroft really has. Maybe he got aids from Rick Perry.
In any event I expect that ashcroft will claim that god miraculously
guided his treatment.

Oh, God will definitely have a hand in his recovery.
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	07 Mar 2004 12:45:09 PM

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com>, Message ID:
<vu9h40pqkh46dptpjv4p8e9unnj3dv2cj2@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;

So much for Asscrack trusting Jesus or paying attention to the babble.

Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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User: "MarkA"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 09:39:21 AM

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.
The pancreas produces very potent digestive enzymes. When the pancreas is
inflamed, these enzymes leak out into the general circulation, and your
body begins to digest itself from the inside out. Imagine a whole-body
chemical burn, but on the inside, rather than on the skin. It is
extremely difficult to treat. There are several tests that can be done
early on that predict how severe the disease will be.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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User: "Therion Ware"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 10:35:41 AM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:39:21 GMT in alt.atheism, MarkA (MarkA
<manthony@stopspam.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

The pancreas produces very potent digestive enzymes. When the pancreas is
inflamed, these enzymes leak out into the general circulation, and your
body begins to digest itself from the inside out. Imagine a whole-body
chemical burn, but on the inside, rather than on the skin. It is
extremely difficult to treat. There are several tests that can be done
early on that predict how severe the disease will be.

As an aside to that, I'd just like to observe that if he does die I
hope to see no post mortem canonisations. It he was a git while alive,
becoming dead doesn't change that, IMO.
..
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User: "Lord Calvert"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 10:42:55 AM

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

While Ashcroft is without question one of the most worthless and evil lumps of
protoplasm on the face of the planet, I cannot get any pleasure from his
suffering nor can I encourage others to do so.
I do sincerely hope that he will be free of pain sometime soon...one way or the
other. However I also hope that he is never able to hold public office ever
again. He should go to his little retirement dacha in the Ozarks.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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User: "Sean C"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 03:34:27 PM

In article <20040306114255.10161.00000955@mb-m03.aol.com>, Lord Calvert
<forlornh@aol.complex> wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

I hope he suffers like a dog, and begs them to kill him in the end.
This guy and some of his fellow Christowhackos have been working to
limit the availability of marijuana and opiates for the treatment of
millions of people in chronic pain and dying of terminal illnesses. He
has also worked to overthrow Oregon's assisted suicide law, and like
all fundies, is an adamant opponent of an intelligent and civilized
euthanasia law. I hope he gets a real solid dose of his own medicine,
first by being denied adequate pain relief, and finally being denied an
easy death when the torture becomes so severe he begs the doctors to
kill him.
It's not that I delight in someone else's torture, even a rat like
Ashcroft, but that anyone this willfully ignorant and callous can often
only be changed by this kind of education. He needs to experience first
hand the results of his own policies. Of course, Ashcroft will not have
to suffer like most sick and dying patients do, and if it reaches the
point he can't take it any more, I'm sure a comfortable exit will be
arranged for him, unlike most terminal patients who generally get to
die in agony for the glory of Jebus. Maybe then he'll have a little
more sympathy for his victims.
Sean C
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 11:28:39 AM

On 06 Mar 2004 16:42:55 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert)
wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

Exacctly. While I am disgusted by his politics and his
totalitarianism, I would not wish what he is suffering from, on
anybody. As a human being myself, I hope he recovers.
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User: "jwk"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 06:52:40 PM

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<ui2k40hifinr638j2822n1eol38am4u6sd@4ax.com>...

On 06 Mar 2004 16:42:55 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert)
wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

Exacctly. While I am disgusted by his politics and his
totalitarianism, I would not wish what he is suffering from, on
anybody. As a human being myself, I hope he recovers.

Sure, sure. Still, Justice cannot but improve due to his forced absence.
jwk
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User: "Lord Calvert"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 08:54:00 PM

Exacctly. While I am disgusted by his politics and his
totalitarianism, I would not wish what he is suffering from, on
anybody. As a human being myself, I hope he recovers.

Sure, sure. Still, Justice cannot but improve due to his forced absence.

No argument there.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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User: "Doc Smartass"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 02:20:39 PM

MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in
news:pan.2004.03.06.15.41.24.823505@stopspam.net:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really
is "severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and
could very well die.

The pancreas produces very potent digestive enzymes. When the
pancreas is inflamed, these enzymes leak out into the general
circulation, and your body begins to digest itself from the inside
out. Imagine a whole-body chemical burn, but on the inside, rather
than on the skin. It is extremely difficult to treat. There are
several tests that can be done early on that predict how severe the
disease will be.

Maybe he could win Missouri back in a Senate attempt if he should pass
away. </dark humor>
Still...I hope his doctors are working rather than praying.
--
Dr. Smartass
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horse. " 01 July 2003, talk.origins
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User: "Bob Dog"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 09:19:44 PM

MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.03.06.15.41.24.823505@stopspam.net>...

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

The pancreas produces very potent digestive enzymes. When the pancreas is
inflamed, these enzymes leak out into the general circulation, and your
body begins to digest itself from the inside out. Imagine a whole-body
chemical burn, but on the inside, rather than on the skin. It is
extremely difficult to treat. There are several tests that can be done
early on that predict how severe the disease will be.

That sounds a lot like the pain most people get when having
a crisis of conscience. Since *****-cruft doesn't have one,
it's a new sensation for him.
Bob Dog
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	07 Mar 2004 01:04:29 PM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:39:21 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net>, Message
ID: <pan.2004.03.06.15.41.24.823505@stopspam.net> wrote in alt.atheism;

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

/fundy
It's for a greater good.

The pancreas produces very potent digestive enzymes. When the pancreas is
inflamed, these enzymes leak out into the general circulation, and your
body begins to digest itself from the inside out. Imagine a whole-body
chemical burn, but on the inside, rather than on the skin. It is
extremely difficult to treat. There are several tests that can be done
early on that predict how severe the disease will be.

I'm sorry, but I have zero sympathy for the man.

Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "SMChristenson"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	06 Mar 2004 05:31:41 PM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:53:18 +0000, grant kinsley wrote:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:39:21 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

actually, it really isn't all that big a problem. He'll have an ERCP,
move the stone and he'll recover.

He'll be closely watched for electrolyte and calcium imbalance,
they'll be corrected, antibiotics will take care of the infection
risk.

But he won't feel too good for a while.

Grant Kinsley MD

How are the opportunities for iatrogenic complications?
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User: "grant kinsley"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	07 Mar 2004 03:43:45 PM

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 17:31:41 -0600, SMChristenson <smchris@visi.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:53:18 +0000, grant kinsley wrote:

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 15:39:21 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

Gallstone pancreatitis is a potentially lethal disease. If it really is
"severe", he will be spending several months in the hospital, and could
very well die.

How are the opportunities for iatrogenic complications?

hehehehe, unfortunatly not as good as one might hope.
GK

User: "SMChristenson"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 04:39:57 PM

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:17:09 +0000, Therion Ware wrote:

The spokesperson in the clip Public Radio broadcast said it is a really
painful condition. :) HAPPY :) HAPPY :) JOY :) JOY :)
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User: "Mike Smith"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 02:41:35 PM

Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
=Top Bush aide in intensive care
= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3537293.stm
=
=US Attorney General John Ashcroft is in intensive care
=undergoing treatment for problems with his pancreas.
I assume he's exhausted the Prayer route, then...
__________________________________________
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Mike Smith | aa #1164 | Founder of SMASH
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"Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child;
but the rod of correction shall drive it far
from him." - Pr:22:15
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User: "L. Raymond"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 05:40:06 PM

Mike Smith <mikesmith@godisdead.com> wrote:

These guys see signs everywhere of their deity's awesome power, but
they ignore the ones that say STOP - like when the actor playing Jesus
in "Passion" got hit by lightning, or this case. If he survives, and
since he's getting modern medical treatment rather than asking a witch
doctor to prance around and beg for his life he probably will, he'll
say it's a miracle!
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	07 Mar 2004 01:02:06 PM

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:41:35 -0600, Mike Smith
<mikesmith@godisdead.com>, Message ID:
<4fph40tc3d7lbnmirb9ipmr26gtu48lm41@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;

"God" said; "No." Asscrack finds that unacceptable.

Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "Carl Kaufmann"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 11:09:49 AM

Therion Ware wrote:

There are no theists in hospitals.
Carl
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User: "Family Man"
Title: Re: OT: John Ashcroft is in intensive care	05 Mar 2004 03:07:08 PM

"Carl Kaufmann" <cwkaufmann@cox.net> wrote in message
news:yv22c.38877$TT5.33916@lakeread06...

Therion Ware wrote:

There are no theists in hospitals.

I heard he was having a shrub removed from the extreme right side of his
head.
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