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User: "maff"
Date: 04 Sep 2005 03:50:46 PM
Object: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11
Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9177622/site/newsweek/
The president faces another leadership challenge amid national tragedy.
WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY
By Howard Fineman
Newsweek
Updated: 7:31 p.m. ET Sept. 2, 2005
Sept. 2, 2005 - History doesn't repeat itself, but there are
political echoes of 9/11 sounding loudly all over the Gulf Coast, and,
for the most part, the comparisons between catastrophes in two iconic
cities-New York and New Orleans-aren't likely to help boost
public regard for the presidency of George W. Bush.
Howard Fineman
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/93e3438af0a130cb
.

User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 04 Sep 2005 05:47:33 PM
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1125867046.431376.117150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9177622/site/newsweek/

The president faces another leadership challenge amid national tragedy.

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY

By Howard Fineman
Newsweek
Updated: 7:31 p.m. ET Sept. 2, 2005

Sept. 2, 2005 - History doesn't repeat itself, but there are
political echoes of 9/11 sounding loudly all over the Gulf Coast, and,
for the most part, the comparisons between catastrophes in two iconic
cities-New York and New Orleans-aren't likely to help boost
public regard for the presidency of George W. Bush.

Important item:
<quote>
New Orleans is less about the digital world than the physical one: not a
river of gigabytes but of barges. Fixing the market hub of New Orleans is
likely to take longer—much longer. Grain shipments wait to go out in long
lines at nonexistent docks; oil rigs have to be rebuilt in the Gulf.
</quote>
This is where the Chucklehead Brigade (most notably georgann) has their
***** all wrong in insisting that the levees and flood control were mere
"local problems" that should have been taken care of by the City and the
State, without the poor overburdened American Taxpayers having to shell out
their money. I wonder--does she complain about the $300 million bridge
being built to nowhere up in Alaska?
I don't want to pay for that. I'll never use it.
The access road project for wal-mart's headquarters?
I don't shop at wal-mart. The bastards can pay for their own damn road.
Quite different from legitimate uses of money, considering that the Corps
of Engineers has been the Federal entity in charge of building and
maintaining flood control structures all along the Mississippi and its
branches, to protect towns that are built in flood plains. They also
oversee construction of bridges, roads, sewage systems, power plants...
I think Lexington, Kentucky (where she lives) can take care of itself, if
New Orleans can. No more federal money for any of that. Need a new bridge?
Make it your own damnselves and don't use my tax money for your welfare
projects.
We all use the facilities at New Orleans. Some 80% of all the fuel used in
my area--southern Alabama, NW Florida, and doubtless farther afield--comes
out of the New Orleans refineries. There's a stream of shipping, regional,
national and international, plying the port, the Mississippi and the Gulf
of Mexico it feeds into, and the Intracoastal Waterway.
This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.
Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least one
dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be shipped
out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are scattered for miles
inland.
Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better care of
themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 04 Sep 2005 06:39:49 PM
In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
burst into the room and exclaimed:

"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1125867046.431376.117150@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9177622/site/newsweek/

The president faces another leadership challenge amid national tragedy.

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY

By Howard Fineman
Newsweek
Updated: 7:31 p.m. ET Sept. 2, 2005

Sept. 2, 2005 - History doesn't repeat itself, but there are political
echoes of 9/11 sounding loudly all over the Gulf Coast, and, for the
most part, the comparisons between catastrophes in two iconic cities-New
York and New Orleans-aren't likely to help boost public regard for the
presidency of George W. Bush.


Important item:

<quote>
New Orleans is less about the digital world than the physical one: not a
river of gigabytes but of barges. Fixing the market hub of New Orleans is
likely to take longer—much longer. Grain shipments wait to go out in long
lines at nonexistent docks; oil rigs have to be rebuilt in the Gulf.
</quote>

This is where the Chucklehead Brigade (most notably georgann) has their
***** all wrong in insisting that the levees and flood control were mere
"local problems" that should have been taken care of by the City and the
State, without the poor overburdened American Taxpayers having to shell
out their money. I wonder--does she complain about the $300 million bridge
being built to nowhere up in Alaska?

I don't want to pay for that. I'll never use it.

The access road project for wal-mart's headquarters?

I don't shop at wal-mart. The bastards can pay for their own damn road.

Quite different from legitimate uses of money, considering that the Corps
of Engineers has been the Federal entity in charge of building and
maintaining flood control structures all along the Mississippi and its
branches, to protect towns that are built in flood plains. They also
oversee construction of bridges, roads, sewage systems, power plants...

I think Lexington, Kentucky (where she lives) can take care of itself, if
New Orleans can. No more federal money for any of that. Need a new bridge?
Make it your own damnselves and don't use my tax money for your welfare
projects.

We all use the facilities at New Orleans. Some 80% of all the fuel used in
my area--southern Alabama, NW Florida, and doubtless farther afield--comes
out of the New Orleans refineries. There's a stream of shipping, regional,
national and international, plying the port, the Mississippi and the Gulf
of Mexico it feeds into, and the Intracoastal Waterway.

This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least one
dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be shipped
out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are scattered for miles
inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better care
of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.

These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.
Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think those
products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the I-10 is
quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a problem since, as
we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 12:26:02 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:

This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least
one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be
shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are
scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they get
some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.
Hmm.
A pier-2-pier network!
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 01:47:11 PM
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least
one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be
shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are
scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they get
some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!

You are a very bad man!
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 01:55:21 PM
In episode <sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
burst into the room and exclaimed:



On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism



"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least
one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be
shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are scattered
for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think those
products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the I-10 is
quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a problem since,
as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!

I'll hold him down, you whack him with the rubber chicken!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 07 Sep 2005 08:22:23 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Mq6dncWYWpQPCYHeRVn-iw@megapath.net:

In episode <sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
burst into the room and exclaimed:



On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism



"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting
shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken
better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless
they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the
wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!


I'll hold him down, you whack him with the rubber chicken!

I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 07 Sep 2005 08:35:47 PM
In <Xns96CACF4DCDD6Caskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Mq6dncWYWpQPCYHeRVn-iw@megapath.net:

In episode <sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
burst into the room and exclaimed:



On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism



"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready
to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are
scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!


I'll hold him down, you whack him with the rubber chicken!


I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!

Oh he's been in the catnip again...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 11 Sep 2005 11:44:22 AM
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:35:47 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <Xns96CACF4DCDD6Caskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Mq6dncWYWpQPCYHeRVn-iw@megapath.net:

In episode <sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
burst into the room and exclaimed:

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing the
reply to alt.atheism


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready
to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are
scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!


I'll hold him down, you whack him with the rubber chicken!


I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!


Oh he's been in the catnip again...

Again? When has he ever left the catnip patch?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.



User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 08 Sep 2005 01:22:00 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Therion Ware wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The
fate of New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was
at least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with
shrimp ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those
rotting shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken
better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her
input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people
think those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to
mention, the I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which
I guess isn't a problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers
can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from
pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!


I'll hold him down, you whack him with the rubber chicken!

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chicken.
Just so's you know.
Cheers,
b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
.


User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 07 Sep 2005 08:21:34 PM
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com:



On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism



"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting
shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the
wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!

I'm a worse woman!
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 08 Sep 2005 03:55:11 AM
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 01:21:34 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism

Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com:



On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism



"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting
shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the
wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!


I'm a worse woman!

Promises, promises....
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 11 Sep 2005 11:45:24 AM
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 01:21:34 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:

Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:sk4ph15aufldcmcjdchf96o8pslbonm3ub@4ax.com:

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:26:02 GMT in alt.atheism, Doc Smartass (Doc
Smartass <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting
shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the
wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


You are a very bad man!


I'm a worse woman!

Some folks would demand you bend over to support the statement.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 12:43:44 PM
In episode <Xns96C87EBA6F869askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
burst into the room and exclaimed:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least
one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be
shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are scattered
for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think those
products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the I-10 is
quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a problem since,
as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they get
some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!

<shakes finger>
If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 07 Sep 2005 08:21:09 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:qrWdne9_9eNUHoHeRVn-sQ@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C87EBA6F869askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting
shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless
they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the
wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...

I find myself suitably unapologetic. ;p~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bring it on!
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
My president is incompetenter than your prime minister.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 07 Sep 2005 08:24:48 PM
In <Xns96CACF1875F49askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:qrWdne9_9eNUHoHeRVn-sQ@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C87EBA6F869askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc Smartass
burst into the room and exclaimed:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:uLmdnciag7NdGIbeRVn-1A@megapath.net:

In episode <Xns96C7B4BF58FFBaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>, Doc
Smartass burst into the room and exclaimed:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of New
Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at least
one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp ready to be
shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are
scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a national
impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through Gulfport. Unless they
get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


I find myself suitably unapologetic. ;p~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bring it on!

<hangs Mission Accomplished banner>
Showed you!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
.


User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 03:02:46 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The
fate of New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was
at least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with
shrimp ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those
rotting shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken
better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her
input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people
think those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to
mention, the I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which
I guess isn't a problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can
fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from
pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...

No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but she's a
/flying/ rubber chicken.
Just so's you know.
Cheers,
b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 06:03:37 PM
In episode <1125950566.081237.288740@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Ben
Goren burst into the room and exclaimed:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp
are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and taken better
care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people think
those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to mention, the
I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a
problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to
pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but she's a
/flying/ rubber chicken.

Just so's you know.

Are you sure she's not at my hummingbird feeder right now?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 05 Sep 2005 09:37:24 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The
fate of New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There
was at least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters
with shrimp ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and
those rotting shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice
and taken better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll
appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do
people think those products walk themselves off those
boats? Not to mention, the I-10 is quite the major trucking
"artery." Which I guess isn't a problem since, as we all
know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from
pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but she's a
/flying/ rubber chicken.

Just so's you know.


Are you sure she's not at my hummingbird feeder right now?

Could be, could be. I've long suspected that she has a sweet
tooth. Hold on a moment while I check...
....
....um. Bad news, Mark. It's not her. She's still at her usual post
on my bookshelf. I don't know who or what it is at your
hummingbird feeder, but it sure ain't /my/ small rubber chicken
(even if she is a /flying/ rubber chicken, just so's you know).
I'd be veeeeeewy caweful if I were you. Who knows what sorts of
things in your neck of the woods have decided that flying is
preferable to swimming? Might be a good time to check the vorpal
blade for rust spots. If you've got a Jubjub on your hands....
Cheers,
b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 06 Sep 2005 06:28:28 AM
In episode <1125974244.768813.256240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Ben
Goren burst into the room and exclaimed:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those rotting
shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and
taken better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate
her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people
think those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to
mention, the I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery." Which I
guess isn't a problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly
right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to
pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but she's a
/flying/ rubber chicken.

Just so's you know.


Are you sure she's not at my hummingbird feeder right now?


Could be, could be. I've long suspected that she has a sweet tooth.
Hold on a moment while I check...

...

...um. Bad news, Mark. It's not her. She's still at her usual post on my
bookshelf. I don't know who or what it is at your hummingbird
feeder, but it sure ain't /my/ small rubber chicken (even if she is a
/flying/ rubber chicken, just so's you know).

I'd be veeeeeewy caweful if I were you. Who knows what sorts of things
in your neck of the woods have decided that flying is preferable to
swimming? Might be a good time to check the vorpal blade for rust spots.
If you've got a Jubjub on your hands....

Wait, that's not a rubber chicken. Let me get closer and
seeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee...................
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 06 Sep 2005 08:16:19 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The
fate of New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There
was at least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters
with shrimp ready to be shipped out. No warehouse,
now--and those rotting shrimp are scattered for miles
inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice
and taken better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll
appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of
a national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do
people think those products walk themselves off those
boats? Not to mention, the I-10 is quite the major
trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a problem since, as
we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from
pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but she's
a /flying/ rubber chicken.

Just so's you know.


Are you sure she's not at my hummingbird feeder right now?


Could be, could be. I've long suspected that she has a sweet
tooth. Hold on a moment while I check...

...

...um. Bad news, Mark. It's not her. She's still at her usual
post on my bookshelf. I don't know who or what it is at your
hummingbird feeder, but it sure ain't /my/ small rubber chicken
(even if she is a /flying/ rubber chicken, just so's you know).

I'd be veeeeeewy caweful if I were you. Who knows what sorts of
things in your neck of the woods have decided that flying is
preferable to swimming? Might be a good time to check the
vorpal blade for rust spots. If you've got a Jubjub on your
hands....


Wait, that's not a rubber chicken. Let me get closer and
seeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee...................

Oh, dear. What a shame. Mr. Bilbo survived the worst natural
disaster in American history, only to fall victim to a
Jubjub. 'Tis a most un-frabjous day. There'll be no more
calloohing and callaying for a while, I'm afraid.
Farewell, Mark. We'll miss ye.
<sniff>
And I was /so/ looking forward to a joyful chortling. Ah, well.
Cheers,
b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 06 Sep 2005 12:36:16 PM
In episode <1126012579.510715.10940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Ben
Goren burst into the room and exclaimed:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running loose. The fate of
New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped out. There was at
least one dockside warehouse loaded to the rafters with shrimp
ready to be shipped out. No warehouse, now--and those
rotting shrimp are scattered for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and
taken better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll appreciate
her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much of a
national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do people
think those products walk themselves off those boats? Not to
mention, the I-10 is quite the major trucking "artery."
Which I guess isn't a problem since, as we all know, 18 wheelers
can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump from pier to
pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but she's a
/flying/ rubber chicken.

Just so's you know.


Are you sure she's not at my hummingbird feeder right now?


Could be, could be. I've long suspected that she has a sweet tooth.
Hold on a moment while I check...

...

...um. Bad news, Mark. It's not her. She's still at her usual post on
my bookshelf. I don't know who or what it is at your hummingbird
feeder, but it sure ain't /my/ small rubber chicken (even if she is a
/flying/ rubber chicken, just so's you know).

I'd be veeeeeewy caweful if I were you. Who knows what sorts of things
in your neck of the woods have decided that flying is preferable to
swimming? Might be a good time to check the vorpal blade for rust
spots. If you've got a Jubjub on your hands....


Wait, that's not a rubber chicken. Let me get closer and
seeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee...................


Oh, dear. What a shame. Mr. Bilbo survived the worst natural
disaster in American history, only to fall victim to a Jubjub.
'Tis a most un-frabjous day. There'll be no more calloohing and
callaying for a while, I'm afraid.

Farewell, Mark. We'll miss ye.

<sniff>

And I was /so/ looking forward to a joyful chortling. Ah, well.

<weakly>
I'm not dead yet!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 06 Sep 2005 07:20:50 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Ben Goren wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

Doc Smartass wrote:


This isn't a local problem, like a dog running
loose. The fate of New Orleans affects us all.

Like shrimp? Bayou LeBatre, Alabama got wiped
out. There was at least one dockside warehouse loaded
to the rafters with shrimp ready to be shipped out. No
warehouse, now--and those rotting shrimp are scattered
for miles inland.

Oh, well. They should have taken georgann's advice and
taken better care of themselves. I'm sure they'll
appreciate her input.


These yapping poodles don't (yet) realize just how much
of a national impact this is going to have.

Two of the busiest ports in the US are down here. Do
people think those products walk themselves off those
boats? Not to mention, the I-10 is quite the major
trucking "artery." Which I guess isn't a problem since,
as we all know, 18 wheelers can fly right?


They'll have to fly or swim to use US-90 through
Gulfport. Unless they get some Kung Fu skills and jump
from pier to pier across the wreckage.

Hmm.

A pier-2-pier network!


<shakes finger>

If my rubber chicken hadn't blown away in the storm...


No problem--you can borrow mine. She may be small, but
she's a /flying/ rubber chicken.

Just so's you know.


Are you sure she's not at my hummingbird feeder right now?


Could be, could be. I've long suspected that she has a sweet
tooth. Hold on a moment while I check...

...

...um. Bad news, Mark. It's not her. She's still at her usual
post on my bookshelf. I don't know who or what it is at your
hummingbird feeder, but it sure ain't /my/ small rubber
chicken (even if she is a /flying/ rubber chicken, just so's
you know).

I'd be veeeeeewy caweful if I were you. Who knows what sorts
of things in your neck of the woods have decided that flying
is preferable to swimming? Might be a good time to check the
vorpal blade for rust spots. If you've got a Jubjub on your
hands....


Wait, that's not a rubber chicken. Let me get closer and
seeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee...................


Oh, dear. What a shame. Mr. Bilbo survived the worst natural
disaster in American history, only to fall victim to a Jubjub.
'Tis a most un-frabjous day. There'll be no more calloohing and
callaying for a while, I'm afraid.

Farewell, Mark. We'll miss ye.

<sniff>

And I was /so/ looking forward to a joyful chortling. Ah, well.


<weakly>

I'm not dead yet!

Oh, that's easy enough to take care of. Next time Bush stops by,
just smear yourself with dark shoe polish, walk up to the crowd,
and loudly ask, ``Hey! Where the white women at?!''
Cheers,
b&
--
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
All but God can prove this sentence true.
.











User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11 08 Sep 2005 09:37:48 PM
On 4 Sep 2005 13:50:46 -0700, "maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote:

Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9177622/site/newsweek/

The president faces another leadership challenge amid national tragedy.

WEB-EXCLUSIVE COMMENTARY

By Howard Fineman
Newsweek
Updated: 7:31 p.m. ET Sept. 2, 2005

Sept. 2, 2005 - History doesn't repeat itself, but there are
political echoes of 9/11 sounding loudly all over the Gulf Coast, and,
for the most part, the comparisons between catastrophes in two iconic
cities-New York and New Orleans-aren't likely to help boost
public regard for the presidency of George W. Bush.

No president knows the hand fate will deal him, but it’s more obvious
than ever what Bush’s fate is: it’s to be faced with homeland attacks
(one man-made, one natural) of almost unimaginable proportions. But
wherever you look in examining the politics of the two nightmares, the
one in New Orleans looks worse.
Here’s what I mean, point by point:
The Country: Unity vs. Division
The events of 9/11 united the country, fusing it, however temporarily,
into an alloy of immense tensile strength. Men and women of all walks
of life in New York (and Washington, and on Flight 93) were
affected—and, just as important, it looked that way on TV. This
tragedy is playing far differently, and for Bush, more dangerously.
Wealthy families have suffered and died along the Gulf of Mexico and
the Mississippi River. I know of Kennedyesque family compounds along
the coast that were obliterated—not one stick of wood remains; I know
of old family mansions in the French Quarter ruined by standing water.
But the faces are the facts: and they are largely poor, and they are
more than predominantly black, and anyone who knows New Orleans a
little knows that these faces were largely out of sight in the tourism
and mythology of the town—and now they are out there for all to see,
many of them dead. It is imagery that demagogues will exploit, but
that doesn’t mean that there isn’t truth there. Bush ignores this at
his—and the Republican Party’s peril.
The Damage: Technical vs. Physical
The “attacks” hit two great—but very different—commercial hubs. Lower
Manhattan was and remains the center of digital and paper-based trade,
not to mention the Ground Zero of the global stock-market trading
system. Through heroic measures, communications and computer crews
were able to restore the essential functions by creating an
alternative digital reality. The New York Stock Exchange was back in
business within days—a tremendous technical feat.
New Orleans is less about the digital world than the physical one: not
a river of gigabytes but of barges. Fixing the market hub of New
Orleans is likely to take longer—much longer. Grain shipments wait to
go out in long lines at nonexistent docks; oil rigs have to be rebuilt
in the Gulf.
Local Leadership: Brilliant vs. Whatever
There is a reason why Rudy Giuliani is, in early polls, the surprising
leader for the GOP nomination in 2008, even though he is pro-choice,
pro-gay rights and many other verboten things. And the reason is the
leadership he displayed as mayor of New York in the aftermath of 9/11.
As his rather quiet but calm backup, Gov. George Pataki of New York
State also got and deserved high marks. The president could and did
benefit from their strength and skill.
Fairly or not—and the physical situation in many ways is so much
worse—no Giuliani has yet emerged in Louisiana. Again, it isn’t fair:
New York as a whole was not destroyed, not even close. It absorbed a
blow to the solar plexus; it didn’t literally drown. But in New
Orleans and Louisiana the leaders have often looked as panicked, angry
and dispirited as their constituents. If someone is going to be calm
and leaderlike, it’ll have to be George Bush.
Bush's Role: Commander in Chief vs. Top Bureaucrat
The president was and remains shielded from criticism to some extent
because of his role (which he always reminds voters of) as a “war
president” leading a nation against an evil Osama bin Laden. If
Democrats and their media fellow travelers were muted in their
criticism of him, it may, to some extent, have been because they
didn’t want to seem like inadvertent allies of "The Enemy."
In this case, Bush isn’t wearing the gold epaulets of wartime
leadership. He’s the guy who’s supposed to make sure that the
emergency response works, and that it is prompt and caring and
focused.
What Was Known About “The Enemy”
Able Danger notwithstanding, there are still few who would seriously
argue that the Bush administration knew enough to have prevented the
9/11 attack. There were dots, but they remained largely unconnected.
You can’t say that about New Orleans. Just the opposite: last year the
government ran a simulation of just this kind of event. All you had to
do was read National Geographic or watch the Weather Channel to know,
for example, that Lake Pontchatrain could slosh around like a shallow
pan of water—and easily overtop the berms and floodwalls. As soon as
Katrina started heading for New Orleans—and certainly from the moment
it hit land—the president had every reason to expect disaster.
The Overall Landscape
When 9/11 happened, the Bush presidency had barely begun. It was off
to a slow start, and the bitterness of the 2000 race remained. But it
was a tea party compared with the atmosphere now—with oil prices
shooting up and a war in Iraq generating controversy and division,
lost lives and hundreds of billions of dollars spent.
Possibility of Success
There is one bright spot, if you can call it that, for the president
politically. As Donald Rumsfeld said three years ago, we still have
“no metric” for knowing whether in Iraq we are killing more terrorists
than we are creating. We don’t really know how the “war on terrorism”
is going, and there are reasons to worry that it isn’t going well.
But, in this Battle of New Orleans, the president has the chance,
however daunting the circumstances, to ultimately “win.” It won’t be
when Bourbon Street returns—that may be gone for good—but when the
faces of the people of New Orleans express something other than the
desperation and anguish we see now.
© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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