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"Fester" |
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06 Jul 2004 06:50:49 AM |
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OT: Kerry blows his Veep chance |
I live in the state of NC. I can say without doubt that Edwards would not
have carried this state in a 2nd Senatorial bid, if he chose to ran. He has
done nothing for the state since going to DC. Edwards made his money and
his name as a trial lawyer. He likes to talk about how his daddy was a mill
worker, and how as a lawyer he stood up for the little guy against the mean
old corporations. His success in gaining unconscionalby large judgements
for these little guys have forced many of these textile corporations to
relocate or go under. He doesn't like to talk about all the little guys who
lost their jobs as a result of excessive tort judgements. I wonder why?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry blows his Veep chance |
06 Jul 2004 11:48:00 AM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote
I live in the state of NC.
Judging from what you post here, I would have guessed
that you live in your head...
Edwards made his money and his name as a trial lawyer.
You mean he represented people?
When the vast majoirity of lawsuits are brought by businesses,
you idiots have got to stop pretending that some little old lady
with 3rd degree burns -- who sued McDonalds -- is responsible
for destroying our entire legal system.
It's going to backfire. It's only a matter of time. Maybe a very
brief time...
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry blows his Veep chance |
06 Jul 2004 01:38:36 PM |
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In our last thrilling episode, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> was
pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:48:00
-0400 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote
Edwards made his money and his name as a trial lawyer.
You mean he represented people?
Yup. And worked his ***** off to get through law school and got rich as
a very, very effective attorney. I wan that man riding herd on the
Senate.
Edwards is also a geek, and the VP traditionally oversees NASA.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Dont Clayton And Then Drive!" |
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06 Jul 2004 07:27:59 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:gbsle05ce5bef80tfc3s3os851n6nvvtnr@4ax.com...
In our last thrilling episode, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> was
pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:48:00
-0400 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote
Edwards made his money and his name as a trial lawyer.
You mean he represented people?
Yup. And worked his ***** off to get through law school and got rich as
a very, very effective attorney.
You mean his rich, powerful daddy didn't buy his degree for him? HOW
EVIL!!!!!!
I wan that man riding herd on the
Senate.
Edwards is also a geek, and the VP traditionally oversees NASA.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry blows his Veep chance |
06 Jul 2004 10:18:23 PM |
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"Don't Clayton And Then Drive!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote
You mean his rich, powerful daddy didn't buy his degree for him?
HOW EVIL!!!!!!
Wait a minute. You're not claiming that Bush didn't earn his way
into Yale with the C-average, are you?
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| User: "johac" |
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07 Jul 2004 01:58:40 AM |
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In article <40eb43ae$0$25462$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
"Don't Clayton And Then Drive!" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>
wrote:
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:gbsle05ce5bef80tfc3s3os851n6nvvtnr@4ax.com...
In our last thrilling episode, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> was
pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:48:00
-0400 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote
Edwards made his money and his name as a trial lawyer.
You mean he represented people?
Yup. And worked his ***** off to get through law school and got rich as
a very, very effective attorney.
You mean his rich, powerful daddy didn't buy his degree for him? HOW
EVIL!!!!!!
Why that's....unamerican!
I wan that man riding herd on the
Senate.
Edwards is also a geek, and the VP traditionally oversees NASA.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "MrPepper11" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry blows his Veep chance |
06 Jul 2004 07:45:46 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message news:<gbsle05ce5bef80tfc3s3os851n6nvvtnr@4ax.com>...
In our last thrilling episode, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> was
pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:48:00
-0400 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote
Edwards made his money and his name as a trial lawyer.
You mean he represented people?
Yup. And worked his ***** off to get through law school and got rich as
a very, very effective attorney. I wan that man riding herd on the
Senate.
Edwards is also a geek, and the VP traditionally oversees NASA.
Kerry did not pick a trust-fund dummy, that's for sure.
Edwards had to major in freakin' TEXTILE SCIENCE at North Carolina
State University to get a job, and ended up being one of the best
lawyers in the country.
He could have become a textile mill supervisor. An UNEMPLOYED textile
supervisor.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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06 Jul 2004 10:23:07 PM |
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(MrPepper11) wrote in
news:57cfd534.0407061645.4c265ec1@posting.google.com:
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:<gbsle05ce5bef80tfc3s3os851n6nvvtnr@4ax.com>...
In our last thrilling episode, "JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> was
pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:48:00
-0400 by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote
Edwards made his money and his name as a trial lawyer.
You mean he represented people?
Yup. And worked his ***** off to get through law school and got rich
as a very, very effective attorney. I wan that man riding herd on
the Senate.
Edwards is also a geek, and the VP traditionally oversees NASA.
Kerry did not pick a trust-fund dummy, that's for sure.
Edwards had to major in freakin' TEXTILE SCIENCE at North Carolina
State University to get a job, and ended up being one of the best
lawyers in the country.
He could have become a textile mill supervisor. An UNEMPLOYED textile
supervisor.
How many workers did he put out of jobs with his high-buck tort suits?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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07 Jul 2004 01:38:39 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
How many workers did he put out of jobs with
his high-buck tort suits?
None.
Now home many American jobs were lost to foreign
competition after Ford Motor Company decided to
build exploding Pintos back in the 1970s?
Answer: Tens of thousands.
Back in the same time period, how many American jobs
were lost to foreign competition when GM introduced
their guaranteed-to-break-down plastic governors in their
automatic transmissions?
Answer: Tens of thousands.
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| User: "John E. Jaku-Hing" |
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| Title: Re: Kerry blows his Veep chance |
07 Jul 2004 08:21:17 AM |
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How many workers did he put out of jobs with his high-buck tort suits?
Well, I suppose if you're willing to sell your soul to Satan so you
don't lose a few precious jobs, you would have a point. Edwards has
adopted a "Rainmaker" profile, so terms like "ambulance chaser" are
best responded with "I'm rubber, you're glue". Trial lawyers are very
capitalistic, indeed, as they are the free market approach to
regulating corporations. Would you rather the government do it?
Well, then, you're a socialist!
Capitalism does not imply Democracy (as China proves with their
superior capitalistic system). Those trying to muddle the two into
some sort of law of politics are pretty much akin to commies
themselves and should be deported (preferably to China) for their
treasonous thoughts.
John E. Jaku.................................HING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For cheap housing when the national housing bubble bursts, visit:
www.hud.gov/homes/index.cfm
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| User: "Fester" |
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07 Jul 2004 05:11:54 PM |
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"John E. Jaku-Hing" <johnejakuhing@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com...
How many workers did he put out of jobs with his high-buck tort suits?
Well, I suppose if you're willing to sell your soul to Satan so you
don't lose a few precious jobs, you would have a point. Edwards has
adopted a "Rainmaker" profile, so terms like "ambulance chaser" are
best responded with "I'm rubber, you're glue". Trial lawyers are very
capitalistic, indeed, as they are the free market approach to
regulating corporations.
LOL. Using the government judicial process to extort billions in
unconscionable law suits is "free market approach to regulating
corporations?" Thanks to lawyers like Mr. E, health care insurance costs
are so high that many in states doctors have had to flee to keep their
practices. The textile businesses that his Daddy worked for to put him
through school are now non-existent in this country thanks to the law suits
and ensuing regulations brought to us by those same trial lawyers. Ben and
Kerry cheered every step of the way when big tobacky was their target, but
the Golden Starches and yes, B&J are now on the lawyers' menu. Edwards
didn't send jobs overseas, he sent entire industries overseas. He is the
most prominent of modern-day locusts, destroying entire economies as they
glut on the companies that sustain the rest of us.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Jul 2004 09:35:12 AM |
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(John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did he put out of jobs with his high-buck tort
suits?
Well, I suppose if you're willing to sell your soul to Satan so you
don't lose a few precious jobs, you would have a point. Edwards has
adopted a "Rainmaker" profile, so terms like "ambulance chaser" are
best responded with "I'm rubber, you're glue".
I see you don't want to answer the question.
Trial lawyers are very capitalistic, indeed, as they are the free
market approach to regulating corporations. Would you rather the
government do it? Well, then, you're a socialist!
I see you'd rather spew propaganda around than answer my simple
question.
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
Capitalism does not imply Democracy (as China proves with their
superior capitalistic system). Those trying to muddle the two into
some sort of law of politics are pretty much akin to commies
themselves and should be deported (preferably to China) for their
treasonous thoughts.
John E.
Jaku.................................HING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For cheap housing when the national housing bubble bursts, visit:
www.hud.gov/homes/index.cfm
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "gammajoe8" |
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07 Jul 2004 10:15:48 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
Gammajoe
Capitalism does not imply Democracy (as China proves with their
superior capitalistic system). Those trying to muddle the two into
some sort of law of politics are pretty much akin to commies
themselves and should be deported (preferably to China) for their
treasonous thoughts.
John E.
Jaku.................................HING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For cheap housing when the national housing bubble bursts, visit:
www.hud.gov/homes/index.cfm
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Jul 2004 03:52:51 PM |
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"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "gammajoe8" |
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07 Jul 2004 10:43:39 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951FABBC5CE9Cfstone69@207.69.154.201...
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
You keep bringng it up - don't you know what you're talking about?
Gammajoe
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Jul 2004 07:07:46 AM |
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"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in
news:Lp3Hc.8626$R36.2531@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951FABBC5CE9Cfstone69@207.69.154.201...
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching
himself with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
You keep bringng it up - don't you know what you're talking about?
I asked a question. Don't you understand that question?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Jul 2004 04:44:24 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 03:43:39 +0000 in episode
<Lp3Hc.8626$R36.2531@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> we saw our hero
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com>:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951FABBC5CE9Cfstone69@207.69.154.201...
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
You keep bringng it up - don't you know what you're talking about?
He's just making it up as he goes.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "Kate " |
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08 Jul 2004 07:46:13 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck the
intestines out of the children using them?
You have a serious problem with your priorities.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Jul 2004 09:46:34 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:40fbea07.700637656@news-west.newscene.com:
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching
himself with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck the
intestines out of the children using them?
Is that the only kind of liability suit you've ever heard of?
You have a serious problem with your priorities.
How many jobs are worth making sure that every cup of take-out coffee
has a label on it that says "Caution: Contents Are HOT!"?
And you think *MY* priorities are screwed up?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "stoney" |
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09 Jul 2004 09:06:16 PM |
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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:46:13 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck the
intestines out of the children using them?
I hadn't heard of the incident before. When I read it happened to 15
children, I was enraged. Those execs should have been given very very
long prison terms.
You have a serious problem with your priorities.
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| User: "Kate " |
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10 Jul 2004 10:57:35 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:06:16 -0700, "stoney"
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:46:13 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck the
intestines out of the children using them?
I hadn't heard of the incident before. When I read it happened to 15
children, I was enraged. Those execs should have been given very very
long prison terms.
But giving businessmen prision terms might mean a cost of jobs from
that company - that's too high a price for the conservatives.
Besides, think of all the jobs created by having all those children on
life support machines for the rest of their lives.
Somebody might get rich on that - and it might be Fred. He's just
sure of it.
But don't ask him to pay the taxes on it once he's made it big, that's
unpatriotic - he's too busy sitting around during emergencies waiting
for his staff to take tell him what to do to take care of those kids
to pay for the services he requires from this fine country up to it's
ears in debt.
Such a fine upstanding patriot on the deck of his private boat in a
flight suit waving to the crowd of admirers.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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10 Jul 2004 11:46:23 AM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:41040f24.841342343@news-west.newscene.com:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:06:16 -0700, "stoney"
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:46:13 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching
himself with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck the
intestines out of the children using them?
I hadn't heard of the incident before. When I read it happened to 15
children, I was enraged. Those execs should have been given very very
long prison terms.
But giving businessmen prision terms might mean a cost of jobs from
that company - that's too high a price for the conservatives.
Civil torts don't result in jail terms anyway, You Silly Person.
Besides, think of all the jobs created by having all those children on
life support machines for the rest of their lives.
More stupid whining, aww, did I kick your ***** so hard that you have to
make up such stupid stories to salve your little feelings?
Somebody might get rich on that - and it might be Fred. He's just
sure of it.
Silly Person, you don't know me. But of course I have already
written that *THAT* kind of product safety issue *is* what the tort
system is all about. It's you and the shyster lobby (who own the
Democrats) who come up with these fairy tales.
But don't ask him to pay the taxes on it once he's made it big, that's
unpatriotic - he's too busy sitting around during emergencies waiting
for his staff to take tell him what to do to take care of those kids
to pay for the services he requires from this fine country up to it's
ears in debt.
More abjectly stupid rhetoric from a poor dumb-dupe of a Democrat.
Such a fine upstanding patriot on the deck of his private boat in a
flight suit waving to the crowd of admirers.
And back to the cowboy posing for the cameras image. How *does* that
line up with the failure to pose for the camera on 9/11 again?
How *do* you keep your doublethink straight? That's why I coudn't be a
leftwinger, I never could keep a straight face while braying the
propaganda slogans.
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Fred Stone
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Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:57:35 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:06:16 -0700, "stoney"
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:46:13 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck the
intestines out of the children using them?
I hadn't heard of the incident before. When I read it happened to 15
children, I was enraged. Those execs should have been given very very
long prison terms.
But giving businessmen prision terms might mean a cost of jobs from
that company - that's too high a price for the conservatives.
Of course. It would cut into stockholder dividends as well as
reduce the income of Shrub's ***** buddies. Therefore, it
cannot be allowed to happen.
Besides, think of all the jobs created by having all those children on
life support machines for the rest of their lives.
Ah, they don't care about jobs or children. They dance with glee
all the way to the bank with the hefty fees charged.
Somebody might get rich on that - and it might be Fred. He's just
sure of it.
Hey, it's hard job, but someone's gotta do it, right?
But don't ask him to pay the taxes on it once he's made it big, that's
unpatriotic - he's too busy sitting around during emergencies waiting
for his staff to take tell him what to do to take care of those kids
to pay for the services he requires from this fine country up to it's
ears in debt.
Such a fine upstanding patriot on the deck of his private boat in a
flight suit waving to the crowd of admirers.
With the middle digit of both hands extended.
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13 Jul 2004 07:20:50 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote in
news:pan.2004.07.13.00.45.27.117097@localhost.localdomain:
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:57:35 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 19:06:16 -0700, "stoney"
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:46:13 -0500, Kate wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:52:51 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"gammajoe8" <gammajoe@yafoo.com> wrote in news:EsUGc.7648$R36.979
@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951F6BB3121EDfstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407070521.31b62d43@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching
himself with his high-buck tort suits?
I don't know. How many?
I don't know either. Do you even care?
How many jobs are worth making sure that wading pools don't suck
the intestines out of the children using them?
I hadn't heard of the incident before. When I read it happened to 15
children, I was enraged. Those execs should have been given very
very long prison terms.
But giving businessmen prision terms might mean a cost of jobs from
that company - that's too high a price for the conservatives.
Of course. It would cut into stockholder dividends as well as
reduce the income of Shrub's ***** buddies. Therefore, it
cannot be allowed to happen.
Indeed, some law firm might have to give up a few million in legal fees
because it's just not worth suing McDonalds for making their customers fat
any more. Oh wait, were you talking about some other groups?
Besides, think of all the jobs created by having all those children
on life support machines for the rest of their lives.
Ah, they don't care about jobs or children. They dance with glee
all the way to the bank with the hefty fees charged.
That's an amazingly good description of how trial lawyers do just that with
their fat legal fees.
Stoney's own hypocrisy glares out at him from the screen. But that's
different, he whines...
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Fred Stone
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| User: "John E. Jaku-Hing" |
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07 Jul 2004 03:58:00 PM |
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How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
Well, it is a difficult question to answer. I cannot begin to compute
that since it's indirect. If a company is able to eat the costs from
it's profit, then probably none. I assume that since you posed the
question, you're able to provide me with some information on the
parameters (amount won, existing profit of company, etc) so I can make
a more educated guess.
The question is also one that warrants speculation. The proper way to
phrase the question was "How many cases in which Edwards tried and won
caused companies to lay off staff"? Edwards did not personally cause
people to lose jobs. It is similar to asking how many jobs I caused
to be lost because, as a software engineer, I automate human
processes. I don't know how many jobs I've caused to be lost, but
perhaps some. May I ask the point to your question? Was there a
better alternative to individuals like him trying the cases, since I
assume you know the details pertaining to the lawsuits in question?
John E. Jaku.........................HING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Jul 2004 05:43:25 PM |
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(John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407071258.2f926b56@posting.google.com:
How many workers did Edwards put out of jobs while enriching himself
with his high-buck tort suits?
Well, it is a difficult question to answer. I cannot begin to compute
that since it's indirect. If a company is able to eat the costs from
it's profit, then probably none. I assume that since you posed the
question, you're able to provide me with some information on the
parameters (amount won, existing profit of company, etc) so I can make
a more educated guess.
I don't know the specific answers either, though I find quite a bit of
support for the notion that more "tort-friendly" jurisdictions suffer
greater unemployment, in part due to higher unemployment and malpractice
insurance rates.
http://www.namic.org/PrintPage.asp?ArticleID=6157
http://www.mochamber.org/mocchw/hw.dll?page&file=pr01062004sessionagenda
The question is also one that warrants speculation. The proper way to
phrase the question was "How many cases in which Edwards tried and won
caused companies to lay off staff"? Edwards did not personally cause
people to lose jobs. It is similar to asking how many jobs I caused
to be lost because, as a software engineer, I automate human
processes. I don't know how many jobs I've caused to be lost, but
perhaps some. May I ask the point to your question? Was there a
better alternative to individuals like him trying the cases, since I
assume you know the details pertaining to the lawsuits in question?
My point was simply to raise the issue for discussion. I don't have any
particulars. As for a better idea, I don't have one of those either,
though it is clear to me that the tort system in America is out of
balance.
http://www.acton.org/publicat/m_and_m/1999_spr/krauss.html
Choosing as vice-president a lawyer who has enriched himself by
exploiting plaintiff law may not be consonant with the "platform" of a
Presidential candidate who claims to be in favor of "job creation".
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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08 Jul 2004 12:17:56 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951FBE7BFD828fstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407071258.2f926b56@posting.google.com:
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Choosing as vice-president a lawyer who has enriched himself by
exploiting plaintiff law may not be consonant with the "platform" of a
Presidential candidate who claims to be in favor of "job creation".
Claiming that Edwards has "exploited" plaintiff law seems like another claim
altogether. Why don't we get specific? Has he filed any particular lawsuits
which you believe to be frivolous?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Jul 2004 01:29:50 PM |
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"Adam Marczyk" <ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote in
news:8lfHc.183$jp5.148@news02.roc.ny:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns951FBE7BFD828fstone69@207.69.154.206...
johnejakuhing@yahoo.com (John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407071258.2f926b56@posting.google.com:
[...]
Choosing as vice-president a lawyer who has enriched himself by
exploiting plaintiff law may not be consonant with the "platform" of
a Presidential candidate who claims to be in favor of "job creation".
Claiming that Edwards has "exploited" plaintiff law seems like another
claim altogether. Why don't we get specific? Has he filed any
particular lawsuits which you believe to be frivolous?
I understand that at least one of his high-profile cases was based on
the *now-discredited* theory that an infant was born with cerebral palsy
that was "caused" by not doing a c-section in time. I believe that was
mentioned in one of the references that I posted.
And of course I'm generalizing from his history to the obvious
likelihood that a Kerry-Edwards administration will be more receptive to
the trial-lawyers lobby in resisting tort reform.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "JTEM" |
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08 Jul 2004 10:29:12 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
And of course I'm generalizing from his history to the
obvious likelihood that a Kerry-Edwards
administration will be more receptive to the
trial-lawyers lobby in resisting tort reform.
When the vast majority of law suits are filed by businesses,
why do you even care?
It's like saying:
"My house is one fire, and my painting is crooked. Quick,
someone! Help me straighten my painting!"
It's retarded.
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| User: "John E. Jaku-Hing" |
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08 Jul 2004 11:13:52 AM |
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I don't know the specific answers either, though I find quite a bit of
support for the notion that more "tort-friendly" jurisdictions suffer
greater unemployment, in part due to higher unemployment and malpractice
insurance rates.
http://www.namic.org/PrintPage.asp?ArticleID=6157
http://www.mochamber.org/mocchw/hw.dll?page&file=pr01062004sessionagenda
My point was simply to raise the issue for discussion. I don't have any
particulars. As for a better idea, I don't have one of those either,
though it is clear to me that the tort system in America is out of
balance.
http://www.acton.org/publicat/m_and_m/1999_spr/krauss.html
Choosing as vice-president a lawyer who has enriched himself by
exploiting plaintiff law may not be consonant with the "platform" of a
Presidential candidate who claims to be in favor of "job creation".
Let's examine the McDonald's coffee "frivilous lawsuit" in finer
detail. Let us suppose that McDonald's brewed you a cup of coffee
that scalded you because they brew it above the federally regulated
temperature. Let's now suppose that you only wished McDonald's to pay
a approx. $150 bill for medical treatment. McDonald's declines. What
do you do now? Well, you could hope and pray that the government will
help you out a little. Incidentally, the very same people who oppose
trial lawyers oppose big government programs. If these minded
individuals wrote laws supporting tort reform, you're basically
screwed. Lower costs for health care, etc are helpful in some cases,
but in some cases (ala the McDonald's case), the consumer would be
SOL.
My fiancee's car was rammed by a forklift once. The Wal-Mart forklift
operator had no license to drive the vehicle. If a newspaper she
pleaded with to run a story would've declined, she would have no
recourse against a big corporation who is absolutely at fault for
causing damage to her car. Perhaps trial lawyers do need to be
somewhat mitigated in favor other alternatives examined, but the fact
remains that hurting the corporation who has hurt the consumer is
ideal, and trial lawyers are helpful in lieu of more government laws
and regulations. BTW, the good news is that the cost against Wal-Mart
by the news crew's presence at the store cost at least 10-20x the cost
of repairing my fiancee's car. That felt really good, to see people
walking away from a Wal-Mart who would've otherwise spent good money
there.
John E. Jaku..................................HING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For information on the exploding foreclosure market, visit:
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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08 Jul 2004 01:25:49 PM |
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(John E. Jaku-Hing) wrote in
news:b4cbbde8.0407080813.1e6b4c7f@posting.google.com:
I don't know the specific answers either, though I find quite a bit
of support for the notion that more "tort-friendly" jurisdictions
suffer greater unemployment, in part due to higher unemployment and
malpractice insurance rates.
http://www.namic.org/PrintPage.asp?ArticleID=6157
http://www.mochamber.org/mocchw/hw.dll?
page&file=pr01062004sessionagen
da
My point was simply to raise the issue for discussion. I don't have
any particulars. As for a better idea, I don't have one of those
either, though it is clear to me that the tort system in America is
out of balance.
http://www.acton.org/publicat/m_and_m/1999_spr/krauss.html
Choosing as vice-president a lawyer who has enriched himself by
exploiting plaintiff law may not be consonant with the "platform" of
a Presidential candidate who claims to be in favor of "job creation".
Let's examine the McDonald's coffee "frivilous lawsuit" in finer
detail. Let us suppose that McDonald's brewed you a cup of coffee
that scalded you because they brew it above the federally regulated
temperature.
There is no Federally regulated temperature. Coffee should be served at
100C or 212F. You couldn't serve it any hotter than that if you wanted
to. If it scalds you it's because you're too stupid to realize that
coffee is hot and that you shouldn't put the cup in your stupid lap
while driving. At least the British courts have enough common sense to
deal with those kinds of frivolous suits.
Case dismissed. Court costs assessed to the plaintiff.
Let's now suppose that you only wished McDonald's to pay
a approx. $150 bill for medical treatment. McDonald's declines. What
do you do now?
You hopefully get called an idiot and thrown out of court.
Well, you could hope and pray that the government will
help you out a little. Incidentally, the very same people who oppose
trial lawyers oppose big government programs. If these minded
individuals wrote laws supporting tort reform, you're basically
screwed. Lower costs for health care, etc are helpful in some cases,
but in some cases (ala the McDonald's case), the consumer would be
SOL.
As they should be.
My fiancee's car was rammed by a forklift once. The Wal-Mart forklift
operator had no license to drive the vehicle. If a newspaper she
pleaded with to run a story would've declined, she would have no
recourse against a big corporation who is absolutely at fault for
causing damage to her car.
Where was her insurance company? Mine would pay for the damage and then
go after Wal-Mart themselves.
Perhaps trial lawyers do need to be
somewhat mitigated in favor other alternatives examined, but the fact
remains that hurting the corporation who has hurt the consumer is
ideal, and trial lawyers are helpful in lieu of more government laws
and regulations. BTW, the good news is that the cost against Wal-Mart
by the news crew's presence at the store cost at least 10-20x the cost
of repairing my fiancee's car. That felt really good, to see people
walking away from a Wal-Mart who would've otherwise spent good money
there.
John E.
Jaku..................................HING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For information on the exploding foreclosure market, visit:
www.hud.gov/homes/index.cfm
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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