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"Therion Ware" |
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19 Dec 2003 04:25:24 PM |
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OT: Libya to give up WMD! |
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
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| User: "Sean C" |
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20 Dec 2003 05:05:19 PM |
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In article <jju6uv0ua5rhm6eq4iqs8i2ve8kutraeah@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Ah, the Saddam of the '80's is back. No sooner do they get rid of the
real Saddam, then they have to resuscitate Khaddafy's corpse and arm
him with those phantom WMDs (I thought they were shipped to Iran or
Syria, or perhaps the Death Star orbiting our planet at this very
moment). How predictable. Another threat to the New World Order, soon
to be "Saddamized" by Blair and Bush, no doubt.
And promotions must be real tough in the Libyan army: Khaddafy is still
just a colonel :)
Sean C
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| User: "Fester" |
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21 Dec 2003 07:47:50 AM |
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"Sean C" <redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:201220031805199105%redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com...
In article <jju6uv0ua5rhm6eq4iqs8i2ve8kutraeah@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Ah, the Saddam of the '80's is back. No sooner do they get rid of the
real Saddam, then they have to resuscitate Khaddafy's corpse and arm
him with those phantom WMDs (I thought they were shipped to Iran or
Syria, or perhaps the Death Star orbiting our planet at this very
moment). How predictable. Another threat to the New World Order, soon
to be "Saddamized" by Blair and Bush, no doubt.
And promotions must be real tough in the Libyan army: Khaddafy is still
just a colonel :)
You are a truly warped, monkey. The Colonel (I wonder why he never promoted
himslef to general) has been working on getting imself in the good graces of
the West for the last 20 years, more or less. His country has been
suffering under the well-deserved trading bans and he has come to realize
that his "Islamic brothers" in Syria, Iran, etc are not about to do him or
anyone else any good. He hasn't been "Saddamized," he's taken the
opportunity, it would appear, to take the plunge into civilized conduct and
I applaud both him and Blair and Bush for working to verify his sincerity
and reward his country accordingly. He's doing what Saddam *should* have
done, and what would have saved the world from this war. This is an
entirely positive event for both the US, Libya and the world. But of course
your cynical mind and blind hatred for Bush just apparently accept the
obvious truth.
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| User: "Sean C" |
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21 Dec 2003 08:45:34 PM |
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In article <awhFb.155324$dl.7005874@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:
"Sean C" <redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote in message
Ah, the Saddam of the '80's is back. No sooner do they get rid of the
real Saddam, then they have to resuscitate Khaddafy's corpse and arm
him with those phantom WMDs (I thought they were shipped to Iran or
Syria, or perhaps the Death Star orbiting our planet at this very
moment). How predictable. Another threat to the New World Order, soon
to be "Saddamized" by Blair and Bush, no doubt.
And promotions must be real tough in the Libyan army: Khaddafy is still
just a colonel :)
You are a truly warped, monkey. The Colonel (I wonder why he never promoted
himslef to general) has been working on getting imself in the good graces of
the West for the last 20 years, more or less.
Which would make any thinking person wonder why it's suddenly news
today. The reason is fairly transparent: we need a new bogeyman with
Saddam out of the picture.
His country has been
suffering under the well-deserved trading bans and he has come to realize
that his "Islamic brothers" in Syria, Iran, etc are not about to do him or
anyone else any good.
What has he done to deserve sanctions that our ally Gen Musharraf in
Pakistan hasn't done?
He hasn't been "Saddamized," he's taken the
opportunity, it would appear, to take the plunge into civilized conduct and
I applaud both him and Blair and Bush for working to verify his sincerity
and reward his country accordingly.
You "applaud" him? You really can't think for yourself at all, can you?
For years, Khaddafy was portrayed as a monster and a serious threat to
the US, now Fox News has praised him for his "courage" in opening up to
the West and you just follow right along and do the same.
You feel any way they tell you to feel from one moment to the next. How
pathetic.
Khaddafy's big crime was thinking that he owned the oil in his country,
the same crime that got Moussadeg overthrown in favor of the Shah of
Iran, and prompted the recent US-supported coup against Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. History has shown that whenever the leaders of oil-producing
countries don't toe the US line, they get whacked. And that is all that
happened to Saddam.
He's doing what Saddam *should* have
done, and what would have saved the world from this war.
Saddam did everything he was asked to do: he completely eliminated
*all* his chemical and biological weapons, and he never possessed
nuclear weapons, despite Bush's multiple lies to the contrary.
This is an
entirely positive event for both the US, Libya and the world. But of course
your cynical mind and blind hatred for Bush just apparently accept the
obvious truth.
The "obvious truth" is that Libya does not have nuclear weapons.
The obvious truth is that Saddam didn't have them, either.
The obvious truth is that using WMDs as an excuse for an invasion was a
lie.
But you're too blinded by our lock-step acceptance of everything Fox
News tells you, and your inability to see any flaws whatsoever in your
Messiah or his foreign policy. You're a complete fundamentalist, with
no ability to consider points of view other than your own, no matter
how many facts are thrown at you.
Here it is again: neither Saddam nor Khaddafy have or had nukes. If you
think they did, let's see the proof.
Meanwhile, here's a picture of your hero cozying up to the dictator of
Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov, who has had political opponents boiled
alive. Perhaps they are discussing the merits of Texas barbecue versus
boiling in oil? In either case, Karimov has gotten $500 million in US
aid while his security forces arrest and torture an average of 6,500
people every year, with an especial vehemence against those evil
lesbians and gays that Bush also fears so much. How do you explain this
apparent hypocrisy, oh enlightened one?
http://www.acutor.be/silt/index.php?id=127
When are we going to invade and "liberate" the Uzbek people from this
monster? Probably never, as Karimov obviously understands who the oil
belongs to. And he's willing to kill his people to ensure they
understand, as well.
Sean C
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| User: "Fester" |
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22 Dec 2003 06:02:39 AM |
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"Sean C" <redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:211220032145348329%redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com...
In article <awhFb.155324$dl.7005874@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:
"Sean C" <redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote in message
Ah, the Saddam of the '80's is back. No sooner do they get rid of the
real Saddam, then they have to resuscitate Khaddafy's corpse and arm
him with those phantom WMDs (I thought they were shipped to Iran or
Syria, or perhaps the Death Star orbiting our planet at this very
moment). How predictable. Another threat to the New World Order, soon
to be "Saddamized" by Blair and Bush, no doubt.
And promotions must be real tough in the Libyan army: Khaddafy is
still
just a colonel :)
You are a truly warped, monkey. The Colonel (I wonder why he never
promoted
himslef to general) has been working on getting imself in the good
graces of
the West for the last 20 years, more or less.
Which would make any thinking person wonder why it's suddenly news
today. The reason is fairly transparent: we need a new bogeyman with
Saddam out of the picture.
Because we made a good step today. And your observation is ridiculous.
Kaddafy has shown real signs of reforming, he is not being villified as you
seem to think was done with Saddam. Quite the opposite, we are applauding
him.
His country has been
suffering under the well-deserved trading bans and he has come to
realize
that his "Islamic brothers" in Syria, Iran, etc are not about to do him
or
anyone else any good.
What has he done to deserve sanctions that our ally Gen Musharraf in
Pakistan hasn't done?
He hasn't been "Saddamized," he's taken the
opportunity, it would appear, to take the plunge into civilized conduct
and
I applaud both him and Blair and Bush for working to verify his
sincerity
and reward his country accordingly.
You "applaud" him? You really can't think for yourself at all, can you?
For years, Khaddafy was portrayed as a monster and a serious threat to
the US, now Fox News has praised him for his "courage" in opening up to
the West and you just follow right along and do the same.
You feel any way they tell you to feel from one moment to the next. How
pathetic.
Khaddafy's big crime was thinking that he owned the oil in his country,
the same crime that got Moussadeg overthrown in favor of the Shah of
Iran, and prompted the recent US-supported coup against Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. History has shown that whenever the leaders of oil-producing
countries don't toe the US line, they get whacked. And that is all that
happened to Saddam.
He's doing what Saddam *should* have
done, and what would have saved the world from this war.
Saddam did everything he was asked to do: he completely eliminated
*all* his chemical and biological weapons, and he never possessed
nuclear weapons, despite Bush's multiple lies to the contrary.
This is an
entirely positive event for both the US, Libya and the world. But of
course
your cynical mind and blind hatred for Bush just apparently accept the
obvious truth.
The "obvious truth" is that Libya does not have nuclear weapons.
The obvious truth is that Saddam didn't have them, either.
The obvious truth is that using WMDs as an excuse for an invasion was a
lie.
But you're too blinded by our lock-step acceptance of everything Fox
News tells you, and your inability to see any flaws whatsoever in your
Messiah or his foreign policy. You're a complete fundamentalist, with
no ability to consider points of view other than your own, no matter
how many facts are thrown at you.
Here it is again: neither Saddam nor Khaddafy have or had nukes. If you
think they did, let's see the proof.
Meanwhile, here's a picture of your hero cozying up to the dictator of
Uzbekistan, Islam Karimov, who has had political opponents boiled
alive. Perhaps they are discussing the merits of Texas barbecue versus
boiling in oil? In either case, Karimov has gotten $500 million in US
aid while his security forces arrest and torture an average of 6,500
people every year, with an especial vehemence against those evil
lesbians and gays that Bush also fears so much. How do you explain this
apparent hypocrisy, oh enlightened one?
http://www.acutor.be/silt/index.php?id=127
When are we going to invade and "liberate" the Uzbek people from this
monster? Probably never, as Karimov obviously understands who the oil
belongs to. And he's willing to kill his people to ensure they
understand, as well.
You are clearly byeond reason, to the point that your non-sequitors and lies
are not worthe spending the time to debunk. I suggest you seek professional
help.
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| User: "Sean C" |
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23 Dec 2003 02:23:27 AM |
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In article <z3BFb.158084$dl.7229545@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:
You are clearly byeond reason, to the point that your non-sequitors and lies
are not worthe spending the time to debunk. I suggest you seek professional
help.
You're good for spewing insults, but as usual, your rhetoric can't
stand up to the facts, so you ignore them. Run away, little boy.
Sean C
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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20 Dec 2003 08:48:02 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:05:19 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <jju6uv0ua5rhm6eq4iqs8i2ve8kutraeah@4ax.com>, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Ah, the Saddam of the '80's is back. No sooner do they get rid of the
real Saddam, then they have to resuscitate Khaddafy's corpse and arm
him with those phantom WMDs (I thought they were shipped to Iran or
Syria, or perhaps the Death Star orbiting our planet at this very
moment). How predictable. Another threat to the New World Order, soon
to be "Saddamized" by Blair and Bush, no doubt.
And promotions must be real tough in the Libyan army: Khaddafy is still
just a colonel :)
It was even worse in the French army: Napoleon was 'le petit
corporal'... ;-)
What about those countries that do have nukes, and admitted as much?
I don't recall Bush dressing down Kim II of North Korea that much...
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| User: "Sean C" |
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21 Dec 2003 08:09:41 PM |
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In article <6vs9uvs156f8usoprg91lg5o02taqiiaam@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs
<'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:05:19 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote:
And promotions must be real tough in the Libyan army: Khaddafy is still
just a colonel :)
It was even worse in the French army: Napoleon was 'le petit
corporal'... ;-)
Perhaps his military talents would have been more appreciated in the
Ugandan Army, where Idi Amin went from being a sergeant to a field
marshal :)
What about those countries that do have nukes, and admitted as much?
I don't recall Bush dressing down Kim II of North Korea that much...
Or our good friend "General" Musharraf in Pakistan, who with US
assistance helped put the Taliban in power, and is cheerfully
repressing his people without a murmur from the Bushies. He's actually
threatened to use his nukes, unlike Saddma, who never had any.
Sean C
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| User: "maff" |
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20 Dec 2003 04:12:55 AM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<jju6uv0ua5rhm6eq4iqs8i2ve8kutraeah@4ax.com>...
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
So Bliar is going to give up the WMDs peacefully?
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| User: "maff" |
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21 Dec 2003 02:18:31 PM |
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(maff) wrote in message news:<18510aff.0312200212.67a66d2@posting.google.com>...
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<jju6uv0ua5rhm6eq4iqs8i2ve8kutraeah@4ax.com>...
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
So Bliar is going to give up the WMDs peacefully?
Libya
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Libya&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Libya&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Libya&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Libya&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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19 Dec 2003 05:13:36 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Fester" |
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19 Dec 2003 05:34:27 PM |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:1071875854.25464.0@damia.uk.clara.net...
Therion Ware wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
The timing of this agreemetn just hapeens to coincide to French, Russian and
German Iraqi debt relief. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
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| User: "MaryC" |
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20 Dec 2003 12:44:20 AM |
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Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
quote from the linked story:
"BBC correspondent in Jerusalem, James Reynolds, said Israel would be
'surprised and relieved' by Mr Blair's announcement.
"'Israel's main hope will be that the announcement puts additional
pressure on Iran.'
"But he added: 'It may also refocus attention on Israel's own nuclear
weapons programme.'"
Is Israel included in the "these people" reference?
MaryC
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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04 Jan 2004 03:22:14 PM |
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MaryC wrote:
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
quote from the linked story:
"BBC correspondent in Jerusalem, James Reynolds, said Israel would be
'surprised and relieved' by Mr Blair's announcement.
"'Israel's main hope will be that the announcement puts additional
pressure on Iran.'
"But he added: 'It may also refocus attention on Israel's own nuclear
weapons programme.'"
Is Israel included in the "these people" reference?
Nope.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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19 Dec 2003 06:03:10 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:36 +0000, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
Sigh.
Have you any idea just how arrogant that sounds? It's actually none of
your business.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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19 Dec 2003 08:01:19 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:36 +0000, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
Sigh.
Have you any idea just how arrogant that sounds?
I'm more concerned with whether it is right or not
than how it sounds.
It's actually none of
your business.
Lol. Sure, right.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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19 Dec 2003 07:23:00 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:36 +0000, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
Sigh.
Have you any idea just how arrogant that sounds? It's actually none of
your business.
Whose business is it?
--
Fred Stone
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20 Dec 2003 11:55:12 AM |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 00:03:10 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:13:36 +0000, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
Libya 'to give up WMD'
Libya's leader Colonel Gaddafi has said his country sought to develop
weapons of mass destruction capabilities but will dismantle this
programme completely, Prime Minister Tony Blair has announced.
"This decision is an historic one and a courageous one and I applaud
it," Mr Blair said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3335965.stm
Interestingly, the Libyans made their initial approach
to us about this back in March - the month we launched
the war against Saddam over this very issue. We may
be getting through to some of these people at last...
Sigh.
Have you any idea just how arrogant that sounds? It's actually none of
your business.
I agree with you, Christopher. Whose business is it if Gaddafi uses
WMDs on Europe or Israel? (I mean he wasn't planning on using them on
his muslim brethren, after all.) Why should anyone care? I say leave
him alone and let him develop whatever he wants. It's his country fair
and square. If he wanted his enemies, political or ideological, to die
horrifying deaths, that's totally up to him. The rest of the world
should just butt out. What's the point of having your own country if
you can't terrorize your neighbors? Same applies to all world leaders,
just butt out and let them do whatever they want.
</tongue in cheek>
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| Title: Re: OT: Libya to give up WMD! |
20 Dec 2003 05:56:32 PM |
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In article <va29uvkpif70cv4tli1ouk5k9dm6pm9ke7@4ax.com>,
<zamboni30000@knowspamatyahoo.com> wrote:
Whose business is it if Gaddafi uses
WMDs on Europe or Israel? (I mean he wasn't planning on using them on
his muslim brethren, after all.) Why should anyone care? I say leave
him alone and let him develop whatever he wants. It's his country fair
and square. If he wanted his enemies, political or ideological, to die
horrifying deaths, that's totally up to him. The rest of the world
should just butt out. What's the point of having your own country if
you can't terrorize your neighbors? Same applies to all world leaders,
just butt out and let them do whatever they want.
Whose business is it if Israel uses WMDs on Iran or Libya? (I mean they
weren't planning on using them on their American allies, after
all...were they?) Why should anyone care? I say leave them alone and
let them develop whatever they want. It's their country fair and
square. If they want their enemies, political or ideological, to die
horrifying deaths, that's totally up to them. The rest of the world
should just butt out (or be accused of anti-Semitism). What's the point
of having your own country if you can't terrorize your neighbors? Same
applies to all world leaders, just butt out and let them do whatever
they want.
List of countries or territories of countries Israel has invaded,
attacked or occupied since 1967:
Egypt
Syria
Jordan
Lebanon
Iraq
Golan Heights
West Bank and Gaza strip
Number of deliverable nuclear weapons Israel is believed to possess:
400
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm
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Number of countries Khaddafy has attacked since coming to power:
0
Number of nuclear weapons Khaddafy is believed to possess:
0
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/wmd_state.htm
Draw the necessary conclusions.
Sean C
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21 Dec 2003 09:03:17 PM |
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On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:56:32 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@burnspammersalivehvc.rr.com> wrote:
In article <va29uvkpif70cv4tli1ouk5k9dm6pm9ke7@4ax.com>,
<zamboni30000@knowspamatyahoo.com> wrote:
Whose business is it if Gaddafi uses
WMDs on Europe or Israel? (I mean he wasn't planning on using them on
his muslim brethren, after all.) Why should anyone care? I say leave
him alone and let him develop whatever he wants. It's his country fair
and square. If he wanted his enemies, political or ideological, to die
horrifying deaths, that's totally up to him. The rest of the world
should just butt out. What's the point of having your own country if
you can't terrorize your neighbors? Same applies to all world leaders,
just butt out and let them do whatever they want.
Whose business is it if Israel uses WMDs on Iran or Libya? (I mean they
weren't planning on using them on their American allies, after
all...were they?) Why should anyone care? I say leave them alone and
let them develop whatever they want. It's their country fair and
square. If they want their enemies, political or ideological, to die
horrifying deaths, that's totally up to them. The rest of the world
should just butt out (or be accused of anti-Semitism). What's the point
of having your own country if you can't terrorize your neighbors? Same
applies to all world leaders, just butt out and let them do whatever
they want.
List of countries or territories of countries Israel has invaded,
attacked or occupied since 1967:
Egypt
Syria
Jordan
Lebanon
Iraq
Golan Heights
West Bank and Gaza strip
Number of deliverable nuclear weapons Israel is believed to possess:
400
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm
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Number of countries Khaddafy has attacked since coming to power:
0
Number of nuclear weapons Khaddafy is believed to possess:
0
http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/wmd_state.htm
Draw the necessary conclusions.
Sean C
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Since you chose to snip part of my response, and since english
apparently isn't your first language, let me attempt to explain. First
it might be helpful to look up the word "sarcasm"... try here!
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sarcasm
I guess my point was that it *is* everyone's business. What Israel has
*is* everybody's business. What the various countries of the region
has *is* everybody's business. If these weapons stopped working
outside of a line on a map, then it might be a different story.
I don't believe anyone in the region should have such weapons, Israel
included, it's just too volatile. They are capable of plenty of damage
with conventional weapons. It's fantastic that Libya has made such a
positive step. I wish all nations in the region would follow suit,
Israel included. The fact that Libya has decided that they can tend to
their defensive needs without unconventional weapons encourages me
somehow. I am not a religious person, I don't give a rat's ***** which
god someone believes in. I just wish they had the wisdom not to kill
me because I don't believe in their particular flavor of delusion.
In addition, I wish these weapons didn't exist, anywhere, The US, the
UK, Russia, China etc. however, I'll not hold my breath waiting for
their elimination, but I do indeed applaud Libya for their decision. A
small progress in a oftentimes insane world. They should be rewarded
for this step, otherwise, there is no incentive for any other country
to do likewise.
No, I don't have the solution either. I'm just smart enough to admit
it. Well, I've babbled enough and I'm sure that someone will find
fault with what I've said anyway. As long as no one is willing to meet
in the middle, this will all go on until long after I die. This is why
I say good for Libya, if they are sincere, I say welcome them to the
community of nations. But, what do I know, I don't get paid to think
about such things. This is why I try to stay out of prolonged
political discussions, despite logical probability, if you take either
side you always ***** off over 50%, crazy huh?
Go ahead, prove me right, I won't be responding to this thread, I've
said all I will (well, I might say "told ya so" ...if appropriate.)
my $.02
zamboni
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