| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"stoney" |
| Date: |
16 Oct 2005 10:51:10 PM |
| Object: |
OT: Linux |
Hmmmm....Yesterday I had told the programme to
subscribe to alt.atheism, but obviously it didn't as I don't see any sign
of the newsgroup. I can, and am manually posting to the NG. Now I
remember a main reason I was looking for something other than Pan as
there's no users manual.
I just remembered Mozilla has Thunderbird for a newsreader. Just wrote
myself a note to see if its installed on my system. Be that as it may.
On my desktop I've got knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm. If I double-click on it
to install it there's a problem with uninstalled dependencies. If I'm
reading things right, Yum will not only install it but grab the
dependencies from wherever.
How would I either move or copy and paste the file?
How would I get Yum to install an downloaded rpm?
There are installed programmes like syleeph-claw that don't do me any
good. It was installed via double-clicking on the file while on the
desktop. How do I get rid of it?
Here's the log of the sequence of my failed efforts. What did I do wrong
and how do I correct it?
[root@localhost stoney]# yum install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
updates-released 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
extras 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
base 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
freshrpms 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 877 kB 00:03
extras : ################################################## 2440/2440
Added 0 new packages, deleted 45 old in 4.90 seconds
Parsing package install arguments
No Match for argument: knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Nothing to do
[root@localhost stoney]# echo $path
[root@localhost stoney]# cd desktop
bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[root@localhost stoney]# cd home
bash: cd: home: No such file or directory
[root@localhost stoney]# dir
bookmarks.odt Desktop docs Downloads Mail News
[root@localhost stoney]# cd Desktop
[root@localhost Desktop]# dir
atanks-1.5a.tar.bz2 knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
data\ on\ downloaded\ files.odt linux-5010.tar.gz
gnupg-1.4.2.tar.gz rhl-cg-en-9.pdf
HexenShineExample.pk3 rhl-gsg-en-9.pdf
install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz rhl-rg-en-9.pdf
jdoom-resource-pack-1.01.zip wgm-1.0.tgz
jhrp-aug-2004.zip
[root@localhost Desktop]# install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
install: too few arguments
Try `install --help' for more information.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install --help
Usage: install [OPTION]... SOURCE DEST (1st format)
or: install [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY (2nd format)
or: install -d [OPTION]... DIRECTORY... (3rd format)
In the first two formats, copy SOURCE to DEST or multiple SOURCE(s) to
the existing DIRECTORY, while setting permission modes and owner/group.
In the third format, create all components of the given DIRECTORY(ies).
Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too.
--backup[=CONTROL] make a backup of each existing destination file
-b like --backup but does not accept an argument
-c (ignored)
-d, --directory treat all arguments as directory names; create all
components of the specified directories
-D create all leading components of DEST except the last,
then copy SOURCE to DEST; useful in the 1st format
-g, --group=GROUP set group ownership, instead of process' current group
-m, --mode=MODE set permission mode (as in chmod), instead of rwxr-xr-x
-o, --owner=OWNER set ownership (super-user only)
-p, --preserve-timestamps apply access/modification times of SOURCE files
to corresponding destination files
-s, --strip strip symbol tables, only for 1st and 2nd formats
-S, --suffix=SUFFIX override the usual backup suffix
-v, --verbose print the name of each directory as it is created
-P, --preserve_context (SELinux) Preserve security context
-Z, --context=CONTEXT (SELinux) Set security context of files and directories --help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit
The backup suffix is `~', unless set with --suffix or SIMPLE_BACKUP_SUFFIX.
The version control method may be selected via the --backup option or through
the VERSION_CONTROL environment variable. Here are the values:
none, off never make backups (even if --backup is given)
numbered, t make numbered backups
existing, nil numbered if numbered backups exist, simple otherwise
simple, never always make simple backups
Report bugs to <bug-coreutils@gnu.org>.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install -d knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
install: `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm' exists but is not a directory
[root@localhost Desktop]# mv knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
[root@localhost Desktop]# cp knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
cp: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm': No such file or directory
[root@localhost Desktop]#
[root@localhost Desktop]# dir
atanks-1.5a.tar.bz2 jhrp-aug-2004.zip
data\ on\ downloaded\ files.odt linux-5010.tar.gz
gnupg-1.4.2.tar.gz rhl-cg-en-9.pdf
HexenShineExample.pk3 rhl-gsg-en-9.pdf
install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz rhl-rg-en-9.pdf
jdoom-resource-pack-1.01.zip wgm-1.0.tgz
[root@localhost Desktop]# mv knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
mv: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms': No such file or directory
[root@localhost Desktop]# cp knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
cp: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms': No such file or directory
[root@localhost Desktop]#
At this point I exited root and the shell. Thank you for the assist.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 07:55:11 AM |
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In <pan.2005.10.17.03.51.02.370324@localhost.localdomain>, stoney
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
How would I either move or copy and paste the file? How would I get Yum to
install an downloaded rpm? There are installed programmes like
syleeph-claw that don't do me any good. It was installed via
double-clicking on the file while on the desktop. How do I get rid of it?
I don't know anything about yum myself though here's FAQ for Fedora I
found:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/
Not sure how helpful it'll be. But *here is the website for yum itself,
this is worth reading:
http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
My *guess is you need to create a "repository" (a directory basically and
do something in the config to let yum know where it is) for downloaded
rpms. Though, I would think you should be able to get Fedora's version of
knews using yum?
Oh, wait, here's the Fedora page about yum:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/
yum *should be able to install, remove, and update software with a minimum
of fuss. You may want to avoid doing the "right click" thing and
installing "behind its back" as yum may not be able to keep track of
things you install that way?
There are multiple ways to install software under Linux but if you're just
getting started, sticking with one tool at first is probably a good idea
so you don't confuse yourself...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 10:54:49 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:55:11 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <pan.2005.10.17.03.51.02.370324@localhost.localdomain>, stoney
<stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
How would I either move or copy and paste the file? How would I get Yum to
install an downloaded rpm? There are installed programmes like
syleeph-claw that don't do me any good. It was installed via
double-clicking on the file while on the desktop. How do I get rid of it?
I don't know anything about yum myself though here's FAQ for Fedora I
found:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/
Not sure how helpful it'll be. But *here is the website for yum itself,
this is worth reading:
http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/
My *guess is you need to create a "repository" (a directory basically and
do something in the config to let yum know where it is) for downloaded
rpms. Though, I would think you should be able to get Fedora's version of
knews using yum?
Oh, wait, here's the Fedora page about yum:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/
yum *should be able to install, remove, and update software with a minimum
of fuss. You may want to avoid doing the "right click" thing and
installing "behind its back" as yum may not be able to keep track of
things you install that way?
There are multiple ways to install software under Linux but if you're just
getting started, sticking with one tool at first is probably a good idea
so you don't confuse yourself...
Thanks, Mark. I had checked the yum config file against what it
indicated in the book as well as doing what else was indicated. Not
even trying to move the file into the yum file repository worked.
I'll try changing the yum config file as per the first link once I
change the puter cables to the linux drive.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 03:39:11 PM |
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In article <pan.2005.10.17.03.51.02.370324@localhost.localdomain>,
stoney <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
Here's the log of the sequence of my failed efforts. What did I do wrong
and how do I correct it?
[root@localhost stoney]# yum install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Try "yum install knews" instead. Yum will try to find knews in the
same "wherever" it gets the dependencies from, and install the most
recent version it finds.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
"install" is a classic UNIX command that has nothing to do with the
handling of "rpm" packaged software.
If all the necessary dependencies were present, you would be able
to install knews from the rpm file like this:
rpm --install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
If you regret installing it. you can delete it like this:
rpm --erase knews
Regarding thunderbird for reading news: I have tried it and had bad
results. This might depend on what version of linux you're running.
I'm running Fedora Core 3.
--
David Canzi "I am not denying anything." -- Celia Farber
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
19 Oct 2005 11:03:27 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC),
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote:
In article <pan.2005.10.17.03.51.02.370324@localhost.localdomain>,
stoney <stoney@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
Here's the log of the sequence of my failed efforts. What did I do wrong
and how do I correct it?
[root@localhost stoney]# yum install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Try "yum install knews" instead. Yum will try to find knews in the
same "wherever" it gets the dependencies from, and install the most
recent version it finds.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
"install" is a classic UNIX command that has nothing to do with the
handling of "rpm" packaged software.
Yes.
If all the necessary dependencies were present, you would be able
to install knews from the rpm file like this:
rpm --install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
If you regret installing it. you can delete it like this:
rpm --erase knews
Regarding thunderbird for reading news: I have tried it and had bad
results. This might depend on what version of linux you're running.
I'm running Fedora Core 3.
FC4 here. I've got to look for the drivers for the all-in-wonder-9600
video card. At 800 x 600 the 'ok' to accept the changed options in
thunderbird is offscreen. Updating drivers would allow switching to a
higher resolution which would bring the whole options screen into
view.
Thank you.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Robi" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
19 Oct 2005 01:52:59 PM |
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stoney wrote:
FC4 here. I've got to look for the drivers for the all-in-wonder-9600
video card. At 800 x 600 the 'ok' to accept the changed options in
thunderbird is offscreen. Updating drivers would allow switching to a
higher resolution which would bring the whole options screen into
view.
Before you start messing with ATI drivers I strongly suggest you read
this thread from FedoraForum.
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=63910&page=1&pp=15
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
20 Oct 2005 05:01:49 PM |
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On 19 Oct 2005 11:52:59 -0700, "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> wrote:
stoney wrote:
FC4 here. I've got to look for the drivers for the all-in-wonder-9600
video card. At 800 x 600 the 'ok' to accept the changed options in
thunderbird is offscreen. Updating drivers would allow switching to a
higher resolution which would bring the whole options screen into
view.
Before you start messing with ATI drivers I strongly suggest you read
this thread from FedoraForum.
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=63910&page=1&pp=15
:EEK: I'll leave it be and hit aa via the windoze drive every couple
of days, for now. Thank you.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
19 Oct 2005 02:55:24 PM |
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On 19 Oct 2005 11:52:59 -0700, "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> wrote:
stoney wrote:
FC4 here. I've got to look for the drivers for the all-in-wonder-9600
video card. At 800 x 600 the 'ok' to accept the changed options in
thunderbird is offscreen. Updating drivers would allow switching to a
higher resolution which would bring the whole options screen into
view.
Before you start messing with ATI drivers I strongly suggest you read
this thread from FedoraForum.
Before anyone starts messing with ATI drivers, I'd strongly suggest
they buy an NVidia card. <BG>
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=63910&page=1&pp=15
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| User: "Robi" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
19 Oct 2005 02:59:23 PM |
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John Baker wrote:
Before anyone starts messing with ATI drivers, I'd strongly suggest
they buy an NVidia card. <BG>
I Don't Know What You Mean!
I got mine working fine. It only took about three days.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 08:22:36 AM |
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stoney wrote:
Hmmmm....Yesterday I had told the programme to
subscribe to alt.atheism, but obviously it didn't as I don't
see any sign
of the newsgroup. I can, and am manually posting to the NG.
Now I remember a main reason I was looking for something other
than Pan as there's no users manual.
I use KDE and Knode.
Usually, the best strategy for no manual of less than
useful manual seems to be google: program, tutorial.
I just remembered Mozilla has Thunderbird for a newsreader.
Just wrote myself a note to see if its installed on my system.
Be that as it may.
Opera also has news and e-mail, and the old
Mozilla suite "Sea Monkey" has just been released
in an updated system.
A lot of people of the old ways who like terminal news swear by
SLRN but you have to install leafnode or some other news spooler
and configure it.
I do not like Pan, because it does not have any way to
easily add a file or attachment to a post. Deal killer
for me.
Knode doen't do multipart posts but that isn't a giant problem
for me. I wish it had proper
killfiles though.
Dunno, I am not a yum user.
Ask in the proper newsgroup.
On my desktop I've got knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm. If I
double-click on it
to install it there's a problem with uninstalled dependencies.
If I'm reading things right, Yum will not only install it but
grab the dependencies from wherever.
How would I either move or copy and paste the file?
How would I get Yum to install an downloaded rpm?
There are installed programmes like syleeph-claw that don't do
me any good. It was installed via double-clicking on the file
while on the
desktop. How do I get rid of it?
Usually you can delete any icons. Progarms are usually loaded
int /usr/share/bin/, the executables usually are here.
Delete the. usr/share/doc/ will have documents, /etc/ may have
configurations files for some stuff.
Man rpm for the usual unistall procedures.
Here's the log of the sequence of my failed efforts. What did
I do wrong and how do I correct it?
[root@localhost stoney]# yum install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
updates-released 100% |=========================| 951
B 00:00
extras 100% |=========================| 1.1
kB 00:00
base 100% |=========================| 1.1
kB 00:00
freshrpms 100% |=========================| 951
B 00:00 Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 877
kB 00:03
extras : ##################################################
2440/2440 Added 0 new packages, deleted 45 old in 4.90 seconds
Parsing package install arguments
No Match for argument: knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Nothing to do
[root@localhost stoney]# echo $path
[root@localhost stoney]# cd desktop
bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[root@localhost stoney]# cd home
bash: cd: home: No such file or directory
[root@localhost stoney]# dir
bookmarks.odt Desktop docs Downloads Mail News
[root@localhost stoney]# cd Desktop
[root@localhost Desktop]# dir
atanks-1.5a.tar.bz2 knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
data\ on\ downloaded\ files.odt linux-5010.tar.gz
gnupg-1.4.2.tar.gz rhl-cg-en-9.pdf
HexenShineExample.pk3 rhl-gsg-en-9.pdf
install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz rhl-rg-en-9.pdf
jdoom-resource-pack-1.01.zip wgm-1.0.tgz
jhrp-aug-2004.zip
[root@localhost Desktop]# install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
install: too few arguments
Try `install --help' for more information.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install --help
Usage: install [OPTION]... SOURCE DEST (1st format)
or: install [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY (2nd format)
or: install -d [OPTION]... DIRECTORY... (3rd format)
In the first two formats, copy SOURCE to DEST or multiple
SOURCE(s) to the existing DIRECTORY, while setting permission
modes and owner/group. In the third format, create all
components of the given DIRECTORY(ies).
Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short
options too.
--backup[=CONTROL] make a backup of each existing
destination file
-b like --backup but does not accept an
argument
-c (ignored)
-d, --directory treat all arguments as directory names;
create all
components of the specified directories
-D create all leading components of DEST
except the last,
then copy SOURCE to DEST; useful in
the 1st format
-g, --group=GROUP set group ownership, instead of process'
current group
-m, --mode=MODE set permission mode (as in chmod),
instead of rwxr-xr-x
-o, --owner=OWNER set ownership (super-user only)
-p, --preserve-timestamps apply access/modification times
of SOURCE files
to corresponding destination files
-s, --strip strip symbol tables, only for 1st and 2nd
formats -S, --suffix=SUFFIX override the usual backup suffix
-v, --verbose print the name of each directory as it is
created -P, --preserve_context (SELinux) Preserve security
context
-Z, --context=CONTEXT (SELinux) Set security context of
files and directories --help display this help and
exit
--version output version information and exit
The backup suffix is `~', unless set with --suffix or
SIMPLE_BACKUP_SUFFIX. The version control method may be
selected via the --backup option or through
the VERSION_CONTROL environment variable. Here are the values:
none, off never make backups (even if --backup is
given)
numbered, t make numbered backups
existing, nil numbered if numbered backups exist, simple
otherwise
simple, never always make simple backups
Report bugs to <bug-coreutils@gnu.org>.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install -d knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
install: `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm' exists but is not a
directory
[root@localhost Desktop]# mv knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
[/var/cache/yum/freshrpms root@localhost Desktop]# cp
[knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
cp: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm': No such file or
directory
[root@localhost Desktop]#
[root@localhost Desktop]# dir
atanks-1.5a.tar.bz2 jhrp-aug-2004.zip
data\ on\ downloaded\ files.odt linux-5010.tar.gz
gnupg-1.4.2.tar.gz rhl-cg-en-9.pdf
HexenShineExample.pk3 rhl-gsg-en-9.pdf
install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz rhl-rg-en-9.pdf
jdoom-resource-pack-1.01.zip wgm-1.0.tgz
[root@localhost Desktop]# mv knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms
[/var/cache/yum/freshrpms
mv: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms': No such file or
directory
[root@localhost Desktop]# cp knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms
[/var/cache/yum/freshrpms
cp: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms': No such file or
directory
[root@localhost Desktop]#
At this point I exited root and the shell. Thank you for the
assist.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 10:34:29 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:22:36 -0500, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com>
wrote:
stoney wrote:
Hmmmm....Yesterday I had told the programme to
subscribe to alt.atheism, but obviously it didn't as I don't
see any sign
of the newsgroup. I can, and am manually posting to the NG.
Now I remember a main reason I was looking for something other
than Pan as there's no users manual.
I use KDE and Knode.
Usually, the best strategy for no manual of less than
useful manual seems to be google: program, tutorial.
I just remembered Mozilla has Thunderbird for a newsreader.
Just wrote myself a note to see if its installed on my system.
Be that as it may.
Opera also has news and e-mail, and the old
Mozilla suite "Sea Monkey" has just been released
in an updated system.
A lot of people of the old ways who like terminal news swear by
SLRN but you have to install leafnode or some other news spooler
and configure it.
I do not like Pan, because it does not have any way to
easily add a file or attachment to a post. Deal killer
for me.
Knode doen't do multipart posts but that isn't a giant problem
for me. I wish it had proper
killfiles though.
Dunno, I am not a yum user.
Ask in the proper newsgroup.
On my desktop I've got knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm. If I
double-click on it
to install it there's a problem with uninstalled dependencies.
If I'm reading things right, Yum will not only install it but
grab the dependencies from wherever.
How would I either move or copy and paste the file?
How would I get Yum to install an downloaded rpm?
There are installed programmes like syleeph-claw that don't do
me any good. It was installed via double-clicking on the file
while on the
desktop. How do I get rid of it?
Usually you can delete any icons. Progarms are usually loaded
int /usr/share/bin/, the executables usually are here.
Delete the. usr/share/doc/ will have documents, /etc/ may have
configurations files for some stuff.
Man rpm for the usual unistall procedures.
Wrote this stuff down. Thank you.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Robi" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 11:01:54 AM |
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stoney wrote:
Hmmmm....Yesterday I had told the programme to
subscribe to alt.atheism, but obviously it didn't as I don't see any sign
of the newsgroup. I can, and am manually posting to the NG. Now I
remember a main reason I was looking for something other than Pan as
there's no users manual.
I just remembered Mozilla has Thunderbird for a newsreader. Just wrote
myself a note to see if its installed on my system. Be that as it may.
On my desktop I've got knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm. If I double-click on it
to install it there's a problem with uninstalled dependencies. If I'm
reading things right, Yum will not only install it but grab the
dependencies from wherever.
How would I either move or copy and paste the file?
How would I get Yum to install an downloaded rpm?
There are installed programmes like syleeph-claw that don't do me any
good. It was installed via double-clicking on the file while on the
desktop. How do I get rid of it?
Here's the log of the sequence of my failed efforts. What did I do wrong
and how do I correct it?
[root@localhost stoney]# yum install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Setting up Install Process
Setting up repositories
updates-released 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
extras 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
base 100% |=========================| 1.1 kB 00:00
freshrpms 100% |=========================| 951 B 00:00
Reading repository metadata in from local files
primary.xml.gz 100% |=========================| 877 kB 00:03
extras : ################################################## 2440/2440
Added 0 new packages, deleted 45 old in 4.90 seconds
Parsing package install arguments
No Match for argument: knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
Nothing to do
[root@localhost stoney]# echo $path
[root@localhost stoney]# cd desktop
bash: cd: desktop: No such file or directory
[root@localhost stoney]# cd home
bash: cd: home: No such file or directory
[root@localhost stoney]# dir
bookmarks.odt Desktop docs Downloads Mail News
[root@localhost stoney]# cd Desktop
[root@localhost Desktop]# dir
atanks-1.5a.tar.bz2 knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
data\ on\ downloaded\ files.odt linux-5010.tar.gz
gnupg-1.4.2.tar.gz rhl-cg-en-9.pdf
HexenShineExample.pk3 rhl-gsg-en-9.pdf
install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz rhl-rg-en-9.pdf
jdoom-resource-pack-1.01.zip wgm-1.0.tgz
jhrp-aug-2004.zip
[root@localhost Desktop]# install knews-1.0b-1.i386.rpm
install: too few arguments
Try `install --help' for more information.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install --help
Usage: install [OPTION]... SOURCE DEST (1st format)
or: install [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY (2nd format)
or: install -d [OPTION]... DIRECTORY... (3rd format)
In the first two formats, copy SOURCE to DEST or multiple SOURCE(s) to
the existing DIRECTORY, while setting permission modes and owner/group.
In the third format, create all components of the given DIRECTORY(ies).
Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too.
--backup[=CONTROL] make a backup of each existing destination file
-b like --backup but does not accept an argument
-c (ignored)
-d, --directory treat all arguments as directory names; create all
components of the specified directories
-D create all leading components of DEST except the last,
then copy SOURCE to DEST; useful in the 1st format
-g, --group=GROUP set group ownership, instead of process' current group
-m, --mode=MODE set permission mode (as in chmod), instead of rwxr-xr-x
-o, --owner=OWNER set ownership (super-user only)
-p, --preserve-timestamps apply access/modification times of SOURCE files
to corresponding destination files
-s, --strip strip symbol tables, only for 1st and 2nd formats
-S, --suffix=SUFFIX override the usual backup suffix
-v, --verbose print the name of each directory as it is created
-P, --preserve_context (SELinux) Preserve security context
-Z, --context=CONTEXT (SELinux) Set security context of files and directories --help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit
The backup suffix is `~', unless set with --suffix or SIMPLE_BACKUP_SUFFIX.
The version control method may be selected via the --backup option or through
the VERSION_CONTROL environment variable. Here are the values:
none, off never make backups (even if --backup is given)
numbered, t make numbered backups
existing, nil numbered if numbered backups exist, simple otherwise
simple, never always make simple backups
Report bugs to <bug-coreutils@gnu.org>.
[root@localhost Desktop]# install -d knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm
install: `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm' exists but is not a directory
[root@localhost Desktop]# mv knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
[root@localhost Desktop]# cp knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
cp: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386.rpm': No such file or directory
[root@localhost Desktop]#
[root@localhost Desktop]# dir
atanks-1.5a.tar.bz2 jhrp-aug-2004.zip
data\ on\ downloaded\ files.odt linux-5010.tar.gz
gnupg-1.4.2.tar.gz rhl-cg-en-9.pdf
HexenShineExample.pk3 rhl-gsg-en-9.pdf
install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz rhl-rg-en-9.pdf
jdoom-resource-pack-1.01.zip wgm-1.0.tgz
[root@localhost Desktop]# mv knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
mv: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms': No such file or directory
[root@localhost Desktop]# cp knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms /var/cache/yum/freshrpms
cp: cannot stat `knews-1.0b.0-1.i386rpms': No such file or directory
[root@localhost Desktop]#
At this point I exited root and the shell. Thank you for the assist.
I can't give a full answer because I'm at work.... shhh!
You have mixed repositories in your YUM config file. Use Base & Extras
& Livna (livna is the offshore from USA repo that they keep stuff that
might breach micro$ friendly copyright laws in USA such as libraries
for mp3 and DVD) or Freshrpms & Dag & whatever_else_I_can't_think_of.
Look for the Extras Repository website, RPMs for available software is
listed there. If you find software you want to use just type "YUM
install <software>
eg. if Knews is available as RPM (not everything would be) you just
need to type
"yum install knews" the latest version will download and if there are
any dependencies yum will look for them.
I'll log in again at home at about 19:00 BST (18:00 GMT) if I can help
more.
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| User: "Robi" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
17 Oct 2005 01:51:35 PM |
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I'll log in again at home at about 19:00 BST (18:00 GMT) if I can help
more.
I'm home, fed and watered now. At the risk of overkill I thought It
would be helpful to give the URL for Fedora extras:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras
While I'm showing stuff. You might like to read the free! online
magazine for people new to Linux. Its called TUX magazine, its
available as PDF, and can be found here:
http://www.tuxmagazine.com/
There might even be an article on news readers. On that subject, for
what its worth, I use Liferea for RSS feeds.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
19 Oct 2005 10:58:18 AM |
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On 17 Oct 2005 11:51:35 -0700, "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> wrote:
I'll log in again at home at about 19:00 BST (18:00 GMT) if I can help
more.
I'm home, fed and watered now. At the risk of overkill I thought It
would be helpful to give the URL for Fedora extras:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras
While I'm showing stuff. You might like to read the free! online
magazine for people new to Linux. Its called TUX magazine, its
available as PDF, and can be found here:
http://www.tuxmagazine.com/
There might even be an article on news readers. On that subject, for
what its worth, I use Liferea for RSS feeds.
More good info. Thank you.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Linux |
19 Oct 2005 10:47:54 AM |
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On 17 Oct 2005 09:01:54 -0700, "Robi" <robi_tola@hotmail.com> wrote:
stoney wrote:
[]
Here's the log of the sequence of my failed efforts. What did I do wrong
and how do I correct it?
[]
At this point I exited root and the shell. Thank you for the assist.
I can't give a full answer because I'm at work.... shhh!
You have mixed repositories in your YUM config file. Use Base & Extras
& Livna (livna is the offshore from USA repo that they keep stuff that
might breach micro$ friendly copyright laws in USA such as libraries
for mp3 and DVD) or Freshrpms & Dag & whatever_else_I_can't_think_of.
Look for the Extras Repository website, RPMs for available software is
listed there. If you find software you want to use just type "YUM
install <software>
eg. if Knews is available as RPM (not everything would be) you just
need to type
"yum install knews" the latest version will download and if there are
any dependencies yum will look for them.
I'll log in again at home at about 19:00 BST (18:00 GMT) if I can help
more.
Thank you. I figured Knews would be as I understood it was part of
the KDE desktop.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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