Religions > Atheism > OT: London bombs - bastards - what's the betting religion is involved.
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"JPG" |
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07 Jul 2005 06:18:45 AM |
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OT: London bombs - bastards - what's the betting religion is involved. |
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove of the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky pixie. I
can't believe that even the anti-globalisation idiots who have been rioting at
the G8 summit would be quite so cowardly.
With Britain leading the way to end poverty in the third world, one of the major
beefs of the terrorist organisations, it seems doubly unfair that the bastards
should attack London, and just after the Olympics announcement as well.
It's a fair bet that someone's religion has a lot to do with it. ***** religion.
JPG
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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07 Jul 2005 10:55:08 PM |
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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09 Jul 2005 12:54:50 PM |
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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09 Jul 2005 09:07:28 PM |
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we" worship that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they issue, all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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10 Jul 2005 06:44:47 AM |
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"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts
wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we"
worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands
that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very
different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their version
of Islam, or die, preferably the latter. The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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10 Jul 2005 08:39:41 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts
wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we"
worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands
that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very
different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their version
of Islam, or die, preferably the latter.
No they don't. You yourself have recently posted an article which quotes
terrorist statements at some length, and they aren't anything like what you
say here.
The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
No, that isn't quite right either. They terrorize other muslims whom they
perceive to be collaborators.
It really makes no sense for hit-and-run terrorists to attempt to terrorize
others into believing their particular religion, even within their own
internal logic. Their stated goals are almost always quite different, and
there is no rational reason to misstate these things in the childish,
Sunday-School fashion that politicians are wont to do.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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11 Jul 2005 07:41:10 AM |
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"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their
magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the
facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that
"we" worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the
demands that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway,
are very different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their
version of Islam, or die, preferably the latter.
No they don't. You yourself have recently posted an article which
quotes terrorist statements at some length, and they aren't anything
like what you say here.
On the contrary.
The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
No, that isn't quite right either. They terrorize other muslims whom
they perceive to be collaborators.
They terrorize other muslims who won't toe their extremist line. Not
just collaborators. There is a simple continuum from the hardliners that
beat up and rape women who show an ankle in public to the terrorists who
blow themselves up at Shiite mosques in places like Pakistan.
It really makes no sense for hit-and-run terrorists to attempt to
terrorize others into believing their particular religion, even within
their own internal logic. Their stated goals are almost always quite
different, and there is no rational reason to misstate these things in
the childish, Sunday-School fashion that politicians are wont to do.
They don't care about belief, they care about obedience. Intimidation
works just fine for that. And there is a perfectly rational reason to
misstate their ultimate goals: western appeasement freaks who will
believe them and try to conciliate rather than fight.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "bob young" |
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10 Jul 2005 08:41:02 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts
wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we"
worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands
that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very
different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their version
of Islam, or die, preferably the latter. The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
No doubt they suffer from an acute inferiority coplex complicated by racial
hatred.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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11 Jul 2005 09:24:27 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts
wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we"
worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands
that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very
different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their version
of Islam, or die, preferably the latter. The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
No doubt they suffer from an acute inferiority coplex complicated by
racial
hatred.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
exactly bob.you see what it is that i see.
i have studied these creeps for as long as i can remember-
and i aint no kid-i remember as a child way back in the sixties when these
fucks where doing the ***** that they do today-even as a young child i was
impressed by how much of an animal these "people" really are.
they refuse to change.it is the quran that they base thier beliefs
on-hell,their prophet muhammad was a child molester and theif and
murderer.the quran states that it is ok to lie to disbeleivers-they are not
to be trusted.
that is why i say this-if they where to denounce islam-then maybe-maybe-i
might see them in a better light-untill then
i have to beleive that they believe in their oh so holy quran.beware of
these "people".they have no interest in
human life-only in jihad.islam does not mean "peace"-it translates to
"submission".that is a fact.beware.
--
***** of this world.defender of the faith.
AA #2241.
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| User: "bob young" |
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12 Jul 2005 12:14:02 AM |
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"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com...
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts
wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we"
worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands
that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very
different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their version
of Islam, or die, preferably the latter. The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
No doubt they suffer from an acute inferiority coplex complicated by
racial
hatred.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
exactly bob.you see what it is that i see.
i have studied these creeps for as long as i can remember-
and i aint no kid-i remember as a child way back in the sixties when these
fucks where doing the ***** that they do today-even as a young child i was
impressed by how much of an animal these "people" really are.
they refuse to change.it is the quran that they base thier beliefs
on-hell,their prophet muhammad was a child molester and theif and
murderer.the quran states that it is ok to lie to disbeleivers-they are not
to be trusted.
that is why i say this-if they where to denounce islam-then maybe-maybe-i
might see them in a better light-untill then
i have to beleive that they believe in their oh so holy quran.beware of
these "people".they have no interest in
human life-only in jihad.islam does not mean "peace"-it translates to
"submission".that is a fact.beware.
The problem will only be solved from within the Muslim community, but they are
reluctant to 'grass' on anyone who grovels to the same imaginary god as they
do.
so.......it is a vicious circle with no way out.
When these sub bumans get hold of a nuclear device; using it and wiping out
tens of thousands will mean nothing to them...the imaginary allah [***** be on
him] told them to do it.
Primitive isn't it?
--
***** of this world.defender of the faith.
AA #2241.
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12 Jul 2005 08:48:18 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com...
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their
magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the
facts
wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners
to
worship the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that
"we"
worship that deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands
that they issue, all the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very
different.
The demands all come down to the same thing: obey them via their
version
of Islam, or die, preferably the latter. The clue is that they also
terrorize other Muslims who don't toe the line of the strict
Islamist
authorities as much or more than they terrorize the West.
No doubt they suffer from an acute inferiority coplex complicated by
racial
hatred.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
exactly bob.you see what it is that i see.
i have studied these creeps for as long as i can remember-
and i aint no kid-i remember as a child way back in the sixties when
these
fucks where doing the ***** that they do today-even as a young child i
was
impressed by how much of an animal these "people" really are.
they refuse to change.it is the quran that they base thier beliefs
on-hell,their prophet muhammad was a child molester and theif and
murderer.the quran states that it is ok to lie to disbeleivers-they are
not
to be trusted.
that is why i say this-if they where to denounce islam-then
maybe-maybe-i
might see them in a better light-untill then
i have to beleive that they believe in their oh so holy quran.beware of
these "people".they have no interest in
human life-only in jihad.islam does not mean "peace"-it translates to
"submission".that is a fact.beware.
The problem will only be solved from within the Muslim community, but they
are
reluctant to 'grass' on anyone who grovels to the same imaginary god as
they
do.
so.......it is a vicious circle with no way out.
When these sub bumans get hold of a nuclear device; using it and wiping
out
tens of thousands will mean nothing to them...the imaginary allah [***** be
on
him] told them to do it.
Primitive isn't it?
-->
indeed.i will fight these fucks till they are destroyed.
they either back the ***** and go back to their shitty ***** country-or get
wiped off of this earth.we can not ever think that we can "change" them.they
wish to die-lets help them.
--
***** of this world.defender of the faith.
AA #2241.
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10 Jul 2005 07:35:04 PM |
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"Santolina chamaecyparissus" <feeding@tube.com> wrote in message
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com...
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we" worship that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they issue, all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
this is EXACTLY what i am talking about-and robin gets her self in a
tizzy.calls me a racist-when its these bastards that are the fucking racist.
--
***** of this world.defender of the faith.
AA #2241.
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10 Jul 2005 08:43:15 PM |
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we" worship
that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they issue,
all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
this is EXACTLY what i am talking about-and robin gets her self in a
tizzy.calls me a racist-when its these bastards that are the fucking
racist.
I have no opinion about your exchanges with this other person, but I don't
know why you draw the conclusion that these bombers are any more racist than
anybody else.
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their
magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical
points against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the
facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we"
worship
that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they
issue,
all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
this is EXACTLY what i am talking about-and robin gets her self in a
tizzy.calls me a racist-when its these bastards that are the fucking
racist.
I have no opinion about your exchanges with this other person, but I
don't know why you draw the conclusion that these bombers are any more
racist than anybody else.
Besides their own statements in the Arabic media?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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11 Jul 2005 01:39:01 AM |
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Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com...
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who
disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic
sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to
worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we" worship
that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they issue,
all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
this is EXACTLY what i am talking about-and robin gets her self in a
tizzy.calls me a racist-when its these bastards that are the fucking
racist.
I have no opinion about your exchanges with this other person, but I don't
know why you draw the conclusion that these bombers are any more racist than
anybody else.
Of course, of course, they love and admire Caucasians, the majority of which
are Infidels as they pander to a different imaginary god to their imaginary
god.
You need to grow up~!
They are brought up from an early age to despise everything 'western' this is
fuelled by the fact their race is different, the West produces all the modern
day inventions and have up to date ideas. And the West treats their women as
equals and as such threaten their religious dogmas.
This all adds up to a deep seated feeling of inferiority resulting in fanatical
radical killers of anyone that even represents the way of kife that they have
decided they do not want.
The palestine and Iraq problems are excuses. When these two are settled do you
think they will stop? No Way, they still remember the Crusades.
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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10 Jul 2005 01:55:22 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 19:07:28 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com...
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we" worship that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they issue, all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
Ah. Gotcha'. I didn't interpret that as a demand so much as just one
of many points of departure between our two worldviews, one of the
many things that make some of them hate us and some of us hate them.
The demands they issue are indeed not that we worship their god, you
are correct. Merci.
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10 Jul 2005 12:09:01 AM |
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Santolina chamaecyparissus wrote:
"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:55:08 -0700, "Santolina chamaecyparissus"
<feeding@tube.com> wrote:
"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com...
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove
of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie.
In fact, their demands are not what you say at all.
I realize that this is a prime opportunity to score rhetorical points
against religion, but that's no excuse for getting the facts wrong.
To what demands to you refer? I see nothing about demands in the
quoted text. :-?
It says that the bombers disapprove of the failure of westerners to worship
the same deity that they do. The implied demand is that "we" worship that
deity or face the consequences. In fact, the demands that they issue, all
the ones I'm familiar with, anyway, are very different.
...and if they ever get their hands on a nuclear device they will have no
hesitation in wiping out all of those that do not follow their imaginary god.
Those Islamists that die alongside will not be forgotten, Allah will look
after them.
That such tripe can exist in the year 2005 is terrifying, we humans are likely
to wipe ourselves out in the name of imaginary gods!!!
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| User: "turk" |
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07 Jul 2005 09:21:18 AM |
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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove of
the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky
pixie. I
can't believe that even the anti-globalisation idiots who have been
rioting at
the G8 summit would be quite so cowardly.
With Britain leading the way to end poverty in the third world, one of the
major
beefs of the terrorist organisations, it seems doubly unfair that the
bastards
should attack London, and just after the Olympics announcement as well.
It's a fair bet that someone's religion has a lot to do with it. *****
religion.
Oh, for *****'s sake...biggest headline on Google News is "Blair seeks
prayers as explosions rock London Transport system". Not only is Blair GW's
prison *****, but he's too fucking stupid to realize that prayer is what
caused this ***** in the first place! That inexcusable moron went to war
with GW to line the oil industry's pockets and now innocent citizens of the
UK are paying for it. He should be strung up by his intestines along with
every member of the Bush administration who engineered this invasion.
turk
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My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and
choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of
Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King
impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold
hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the
first place.
-- Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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07 Jul 2005 08:11:13 PM |
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In article <hg3qc19jdok40fiaqobfj5sqqjuu014qsk@4ax.com>,
JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Seems like the act of typical cowardly religious bigots who disapprove of the
fact that we don't prostrate ourselves at the feet of their magic sky pixie.
Really, I think that's just a thin veneer to cover a deeper problem.
Nearly everyone who decides to commit some horrible act does so for
personal reasons, then they dive for their *GAWD!* book to find ways to
cover their asses metaphorically. That's what I think happens most of
the time.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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| User: "Bad Wolf" |
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07 Jul 2005 06:20:57 AM |
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In the great debate about "OT: London bombs - bastards - what's the
betting religion is involved." in alt.atheism, JPG <me@privacy.net>
catapaulted the following boulder:
It's a fair bet that someone's religion has a lot to do with it. ***** religion.
More like "It's a given".
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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| User: "Martin" |
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07 Jul 2005 07:49:04 AM |
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JPG wrote:
With Britain leading the way to end poverty in the third world, one of the major
beefs of the terrorist organisations, it seems doubly unfair that the bastards
should attack London, and just after the Olympics announcement as well.
Has anyone seen Chirac today?
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| User: "Shobha" |
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| Title: Re: OT: London bombs - bastards - what's the betting religion is involved. |
07 Jul 2005 07:57:50 AM |
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Thanks to Bush and Blair (and the many blind and blinkered who
follow/believe them), terrorism worldwide is still alive and kicking
.... probably growing stronger !!
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| User: "Clayton: Master Of Scrotum Origami" |
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07 Jul 2005 07:02:01 PM |
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"Shobha" <shobha_subramanyan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120741070.764366.155180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Thanks to Bush and Blair (and the many blind and blinkered who
follow/believe them), terrorism worldwide is still alive and kicking
... probably growing stronger !!
It's inevitable!!! Today was a day of glory to both the terrorist and
their allies Bush and Blair! They all get what they wanted....the expansion
of war and destruction! They are all beating off together tonight!
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| User: "DianaC" |
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07 Jul 2005 10:51:21 AM |
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"Shobha" <shobha_subramanyan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120741070.764366.155180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Thanks to Bush and Blair (and the many blind and blinkered who
follow/believe them), terrorism worldwide is still alive and kicking
... probably growing stronger !!
And there you have it. Never mind that it was neither Bush NOR Blair who
planted the bombs. Never mind that during the eight years previous to the
Bush administration there were many terrorist attacks that killed as many or
more people than died this morning in London. for instance, the Cole bombing
killed how many people...close to thirty? The first WTC bombing killed 8, 19
soldiers died in the Khobar Towers bombing, the Embassies in Nairobi, Kenya
and Dar es Salaam killed more than 200 people, including 12 Americans. The
thing is, terrorism was alive, well, and growing stronger and stronger
during a time when we did NOTHING about it. Terrorism is alive and well in
spite of the fact that Spain folded under threats and did precisely what the
terrorists wanted them to do. The fault lies, not with America or Britain or
the leaders of either. The fault lies entirely with the terrorists.
They are responsible.
They alone.
And we are responsible for nothing at all except this: it is our
responsibility to stop them. Nobody EVER stopped a terrorist by giving him
what he wants.
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| User: "Shobha" |
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07 Jul 2005 12:10:24 PM |
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<< And there you have it. Never mind that it was neither Bush NOR
Blair who planted the bombs. >>
Even a kid who watches HBO will tell you that you dont need to actually
plant the bombs yourself ... to be considered a murderer :-)
<< And we are responsible for nothing at all except this: it is our
responsibility to stop them. Nobody EVER stopped a terrorist by giving
him what he wants. >>
The tough Yankee stance huh ?! DONT GIVE IN ... not even an inch ...
lest they think you are (horror of horrors!!) a wimp *shudder*
*shudder*.
But go ahead and wage war on countries who have absolutely nothing to
do with 9/11 ... lie about it. And of course, testosterone laden
Yankees would never criticise a war after its started lest they be
considered (horror of horrors!) un-patriotic *shudder* *shudder*.
You Americans are weird creatures :-)
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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07 Jul 2005 12:20:32 PM |
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"Shobha" <shobha_subramanyan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120756224.417940.5190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<< And there you have it. Never mind that it was neither Bush NOR
Blair who planted the bombs. >>
Even a kid who watches HBO will tell you that you dont need to actually
plant the bombs yourself ... to be considered a murderer :-)
<< And we are responsible for nothing at all except this: it is our
responsibility to stop them. Nobody EVER stopped a terrorist by giving
him what he wants. >>
The tough Yankee stance huh ?! DONT GIVE IN ... not even an inch ...
lest they think you are (horror of horrors!!) a wimp *shudder*
*shudder*.
But go ahead and wage war on countries who have absolutely nothing to
do with 9/11 ... lie about it. And of course, testosterone laden
Yankees would never criticise a war after its started lest they be
considered (horror of horrors!) un-patriotic *shudder* *shudder*.
You Americans are weird creatures :-)
you muslims are even weirder.
you come into a host country-and think we want to be like you-all we gotta
do is look at your shitty islamic run countries and see just how backwards
and barbaric you fucks really are-you don't like my country?THEN GET THE
***** OUT!
the link here is a photo from london-
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=31986
--
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AA #2241.
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| User: "Shobha" |
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07 Jul 2005 11:34:27 PM |
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Mistake No. 1 : "you muslims are even weirder. "
Me no Muslim. Me homo sapien. Me atheist. Mom Hindu, dad atheist. :-)
Mistake No. 2. : "you don't like my country?THEN GET THE
***** OUT! "
I DONT live in "your" country. I live in India.
And anyway, silly of you to make an artificially bounded piece of land
sacrosanct. The patriotism religion !
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| User: "JPG" |
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07 Jul 2005 03:30:25 PM |
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:32 -0400, "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"
<NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote:
"Shobha" <shobha_subramanyan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120756224.417940.5190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<< And there you have it. Never mind that it was neither Bush NOR
Blair who planted the bombs. >>
Even a kid who watches HBO will tell you that you dont need to actually
plant the bombs yourself ... to be considered a murderer :-)
<< And we are responsible for nothing at all except this: it is our
responsibility to stop them. Nobody EVER stopped a terrorist by giving
him what he wants. >>
The tough Yankee stance huh ?! DONT GIVE IN ... not even an inch ...
lest they think you are (horror of horrors!!) a wimp *shudder*
*shudder*.
But go ahead and wage war on countries who have absolutely nothing to
do with 9/11 ... lie about it. And of course, testosterone laden
Yankees would never criticise a war after its started lest they be
considered (horror of horrors!) un-patriotic *shudder* *shudder*.
You Americans are weird creatures :-)
you muslims are even weirder.
you come into a host country-and think we want to be like you-all we gotta
do is look at your shitty islamic run countries and see just how backwards
and barbaric you fucks really are-you don't like my country?THEN GET THE
***** OUT!
the link here is a photo from london-
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=31986
Can we get this *****'s aa number revoked? I do not wish atheists
to be likened to this jerk.
--
"And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of
human destiny is beyond human beings. Man's reason
and spirit have often solved the seemingly unsolvable
- and we believe they can do it again."
-- John F. Kennedy
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| User: "Paul Erickson" |
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08 Jul 2005 03:17:12 AM |
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 21:30:25 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:20:32 -0400, "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"
<NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote:
"Shobha" <shobha_subramanyan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120756224.417940.5190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<< And there you have it. Never mind that it was neither Bush NOR
Blair who planted the bombs. >>
Even a kid who watches HBO will tell you that you dont need to actually
plant the bombs yourself ... to be considered a murderer :-)
<< And we are responsible for nothing at all except this: it is our
responsibility to stop them. Nobody EVER stopped a terrorist by giving
him what he wants. >>
The tough Yankee stance huh ?! DONT GIVE IN ... not even an inch ...
lest they think you are (horror of horrors!!) a wimp *shudder*
*shudder*.
But go ahead and wage war on countries who have absolutely nothing to
do with 9/11 ... lie about it. And of course, testosterone laden
Yankees would never criticise a war after its started lest they be
considered (horror of horrors!) un-patriotic *shudder* *shudder*.
You Americans are weird creatures :-)
you muslims are even weirder.
you come into a host country-and think we want to be like you-all we gotta
do is look at your shitty islamic run countries and see just how backwards
and barbaric you fucks really are-you don't like my country?THEN GET THE
***** OUT!
the link here is a photo from london-
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=31986
Can we get this *****'s aa number revoked? I do not wish atheists
to be likened to this jerk.
LOL! I just now refrained from saying something similar.
Still, atheism is not about racism or otherwise.
Slobbering Skeleton
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| User: "Shobha" |
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08 Jul 2005 03:51:24 AM |
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Slobbering Skeleton,
" LOL! I just now refrained from saying something similar.
Still, atheism is not about racism or otherwise. "
What exactly do you mean by this ?
I have clarified that neither am I a Muslim nor do I live in the US of
A ... so those nasty comments from JPG were wrong and clueless anyway.
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| User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!" |
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07 Jul 2005 04:53:39 PM |
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news:i44rc19j9tfs3cu90l46ujqd0acn1m7k2l@4ax.com...> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005
13:20:32 -0400, "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"
<NUNIADAMN@BUSSINESS.NET> wrote:
"Shobha" <shobha_subramanyan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1120756224.417940.5190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<< And there you have it. Never mind that it was neither Bush NOR
Blair who planted the bombs. >>
Even a kid who watches HBO will tell you that you dont need to actually
plant the bombs yourself ... to be considered a murderer :-)
<< And we are responsible for nothing at all except this: it is our
responsibility to stop them. Nobody EVER stopped a terrorist by giving
him what he wants. >>
The tough Yankee stance huh ?! DONT GIVE IN ... not even an inch ...
lest they think you are (horror of horrors!!) a wimp *shudder*
*shudder*.
But go ahead and wage war on countries who have absolutely nothing to
do with 9/11 ... lie about it. And of course, testosterone laden
Yankees would never criticise a war after its started lest they be
considered (horror of horrors!) un-patriotic *shudder* *shudder*.
You Americans are weird creatures :-)
you muslims are even weirder.
you come into a host country-and think we want to be like you-all we
gotta
do is look at your shitty islamic run countries and see just how
backwards
and barbaric you fucks really are-you don't like my country?THEN GET THE
***** OUT!
the link here is a photo from london-
http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUn
q=31986
Can we get this *****'s aa number revoked? I do not wish atheists
to be likened to this jerk.
can we get your breathing rights revoked?
i don't like you trying to tell me what to do.
--
***** of this world.defender of the faith.
AA #2241.
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