Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message news:<hkj4jvc4ciu6se8b3qe04cv32peoadv6df@4ax.com>...

The following question & answer appeared in the Daily Mail (London,
UK, slightly to the right of a person on the right...) paper today. I
thought it was quite interesting. I've OCR'd it, so there are probably
spelling errors.

As a side question, why do you think Americans are more likely to
murder each other than the British?

We've got more practice?

<snip>

Out of every 100,000 people in this
country, only around two people will
be murdered in a typical year. This
compares with eight in the U.S.,
almost 20 in Russia, 37 in Jamaica
and 154 in Honduras.

I have a question. I need some help.
Your question got me digging, and I'm frustrated as all get-out.

One of the issues I've seen raised a couple of times is that the UK
and US compile their data differently, so that in England, if three
people assault and kill one person, but no one is convicted, it's not
tallied in the "murder" category, because there wasn't an official
resolution of murder. In the US, a report of three people killing one
person would be compiled as three acts resulting in murder; three acts
of murder, one murder, irrespective of whether they ever caught the
guys or not.

Now, I don't know how much that matters, But I'd _like_ to know how
much that matters. I can find the hard numbers for the US --
population roughly 260 million, 15,517 murders in the US in 2000. I
can't find anything like "number of people who died at the hands of
others" in the UK, which is what I'm looking for, since clearly not
every murder is solved -- though I did finally manage to discover that
there are 59.5 million of you. I did find a number which teased me
with offering as a percentage of violent deaths, suicides -- but it
turns out they included accidental death with that total number.

Do you know where I can find actual numbers of people who died at the
hands of others, not inclusive of just plain accidental car wrecks or
something?