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User: "maff"
Date: 23 Feb 2004 05:48:39 AM
Object: OT: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again
Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=494197
By Andrew Buncombe in Washington
23 February 2004
Ralph Nader announced that he will make another bid for the White
House yesterday - infuriating Democrats who blame his 2000
presidential run for helping elect George Bush.
Mr Nader, a consumer rights advocate, said he had decided to run again
because Washington had become "corporate occupied territory" and there
was little difference between the Republicans and Democrats. He said
he would run as an independent candidate in order to challenge the
"two-party duopoly".
Ralph Nader
http://news.google.com/news?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Ralph+Nader&sa=N&tab=gn
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Ralph+Nader&sa=N&tab=nw
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Ralph+Nader&sa=N&tab=wd&cat=gwd%2FTop
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=Ralph%20Nader&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_scoring=d&lr=&num=100&hl=en
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User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 23 Feb 2004 11:25:49 AM
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote

Mr Nader, a consumer rights advocate, said he had
decided to run again because Washington had
become "corporate occupied territory" and there
was little difference between the Republicans and
Democrats.

Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.
.
User: "Josh82"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 24 Feb 2004 10:04:34 AM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<wLidndCAk5Atq6fdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...

"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote

Mr Nader, a consumer rights advocate, said he had
decided to run again because Washington had
become "corporate occupied territory" and there
was little difference between the Republicans and
Democrats.


Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.

I think you're taking that statement TOO literally. Of course there
are differences and Nader knows that. I may say there is no difference
between a racist and a homophobe. Of course they are different in the
literal sense, but ultimately both are bigoted fucks that need to be
removed from the Earth no matter their differences. Both Republicans
and Democrats are self-serving parties more interested in promoting
their economic and foreign policies than working toward a country that
takes care of and treats all of its citizens equally.
Anyone who takes everything at literal, face-value without putting any
thought into possible alternate meanings shouldn't be allowed to post
to to usenet groups.
Josh
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 24 Feb 2004 11:06:00 AM
"Josh82" <atheistjosh@yahoo.com> wrote

Both Republicans and Democrats are self-serving
parties more interested in promoting their
economic and foreign policies than working
toward a country that takes care of and treats all
of its citizens equally.

Generic statements make good sound bites, but Nader
made *No* case to distinguish himself from Al Gore
in 2000, other than to claim that the Democrats suck.

Anyone who takes everything at literal, face-value
without putting any thought into possible alternate
meanings shouldn't be allowed to post to to usenet
groups.

No, it's those idiots who post thoroughly sterilized,
oh so generic statements and think they've actually
said something.
.
User: "Josh82"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 27 Feb 2004 09:26:24 PM
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9LKdnVtMhtAXHqbdRVn-vA@comcast.com>...

"Josh82" <atheistjosh@yahoo.com> wrote

Both Republicans and Democrats are self-serving
parties more interested in promoting their
economic and foreign policies than working
toward a country that takes care of and treats all
of its citizens equally.


Generic statements make good sound bites, but Nader
made *No* case to distinguish himself from Al Gore
in 2000, other than to claim that the Democrats suck.

It's funny that I was following the issues and I recall Nader
distinguishing himself from Gore in several ways.

Anyone who takes everything at literal, face-value
without putting any thought into possible alternate
meanings shouldn't be allowed to post to to usenet
groups.


No, it's those idiots who post thoroughly sterilized,
oh so generic statements and think they've actually
said something.

And you think you are not one of them?

Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.

Yeah, that's clever and well thought out.
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 28 Feb 2004 09:09:38 AM
"Josh82" <atheistjosh@yahoo.com> wrote

It's funny that I was following the issues and I recall Nader
distinguishing himself from Gore in several ways.

Yeah, he said there was no difference between the Democrats
and the Republicans... something even the most idiotic amongst
us can't believe now. Not after four years of Dubya.

No, it's those idiots who post thoroughly sterilized,
oh so generic statements and think they've actually
said something.

And you think you are not one of them?

I'll wait. I'm sure you'll say the same thing again, "in several ways."

Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.

Yeah, that's clever and well thought out.

You've had four years to grasp it. Don't blame me if you can't
recognize the bleeding obvious.
.

User: "gammajoe8"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 28 Feb 2004 01:17:17 PM
"Josh82" <atheistjosh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e358507.0402271926.3c026fe8@posting.google.com...

"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<9LKdnVtMhtAXHqbdRVn-vA@comcast.com>...

"Josh82" <atheistjosh@yahoo.com> wrote

Both Republicans and Democrats are self-serving
parties more interested in promoting their
economic and foreign policies than working
toward a country that takes care of and treats all
of its citizens equally.


Generic statements make good sound bites, but Nader
made *No* case to distinguish himself from Al Gore
in 2000, other than to claim that the Democrats suck.


It's funny that I was following the issues and I recall Nader
distinguishing himself from Gore in several ways.


Anyone who takes everything at literal, face-value
without putting any thought into possible alternate
meanings shouldn't be allowed to post to to usenet
groups.


No, it's those idiots who post thoroughly sterilized,
oh so generic statements and think they've actually
said something.


And you think you are not one of them?


Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.


Yeah, that's clever and well thought out.

During the 2000 campaign, a friend in advertising told me that Karl Rove
paid for ads for Nader. I have never seen anything about this in the press.
Still haven't, but there is a comment by a Green poster from Oregon saying
the same thing. Look for comment by kamosa at:
http://www.mydd.com/archives/000353.html
Also see general comment on Nader at www.eugeneweekly.com/views.html
.



User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 24 Feb 2004 09:17:07 PM
"Josh82" <atheistjosh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e358507.0402240804.74d25092@posting.google.com...

"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<wLidndCAk5Atq6fdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>...

"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote

Mr Nader, a consumer rights advocate, said he had
decided to run again because Washington had
become "corporate occupied territory" and there
was little difference between the Republicans and
Democrats.


Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.


I think you're taking that statement TOO literally. Of course there
are differences and Nader knows that. I may say there is no difference
between a racist and a homophobe. Of course they are different in the
literal sense, but ultimately both are bigoted fucks that need to be
removed from the Earth no matter their differences. Both Republicans
and Democrats are self-serving parties more interested in promoting
their economic and foreign policies than working toward a country that
takes care of and treats all of its citizens equally.

Anyone who takes everything at literal, face-value without putting any
thought into possible alternate meanings shouldn't be allowed to post
to to usenet groups.

The similarities really do overwhelm the differences. Pols must be centrist
to have a chance of winning. They also make it a point to play up what
differences there are to distinguish themselves from their opponents. It
amazes me that some have found (Darth) Nader's remarks so enigmatic.
.


User: "johac"

Title: Re: Nader defies Democrats and says he will run again 24 Feb 2004 01:17:53 AM
In article <wLidndCAk5Atq6fdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:

"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote

Mr Nader, a consumer rights advocate, said he had
decided to run again because Washington had
become "corporate occupied territory" and there
was little difference between the Republicans and
Democrats.


Anyone who can't see the night-and-day difference between
Al Gore & George Bush, like Nader, shouldn't be allowed
to walk the streets unescorted.

The same for the current Democrat candidates.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
.



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