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"Sean C" |
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07 Jan 2006 04:40:55 AM |
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OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
07 Jan 2006 09:08:25 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 05:40:55 -0500, Sean C
<redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
http://gravity.tbates.org
http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/
Gravity is a full commercial newsreader that was turned over to the
freebie sector.
That or FreeAgent.
Please make sure she forges her headers.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
07 Jan 2006 03:33:25 PM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 05:40:55 -0500, Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
I use Pan, which has a Windows version, I believe. If she's tight for
money she may want to go ahead and just install Linux as the only OS: it
costs no $$$, but you do have to invest a little more personal attention.
WRT browsers & email, go with Firefox and Thunderbird, no question.
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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| User: "Lörd Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
08 Jan 2006 12:11:22 AM |
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Sean C <redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> had me ROTFL with:
news:070120060540557504%redhawk@burnspammersalive.com:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
Well, there are plenty of options, Outlook Express can read news and e-mail,
I use X-news... http://xnews.newsguy.com it's free, can download multi part
binaries, handles YENC on the fly...
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
07 Jan 2006 07:22:57 PM |
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Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
I'd suggest Linux.
Old usually means Window 95, 98, or 2000. For a newbie,
battling viruses, worms, and all the other problems plaguing
Windows is a problem. She will soon be unhappy.
Start with Mandriva or Suse, use KDE, start with Knode.
If that is too much for an old computer, run one of the
lightweight windows managers.
I use Knode for newsreading, Mozilla for mail, Opera
for a browser. Firefox and others work well too. Battling
Windows nasties is just almost a full time job for a
newbie, and one slip up and you are in for learning a
lot about repairing a broken Windows system.
http://www.linuxcd.org/?ref=distrowatch
Start here.
Maybe try Mandriva, it has an active newsgroup,
get a Knoppix live CD, try Kubuntu maybe. Part of the
attractivness of Linux is the fact that she can also get
a lot of free software, Open Office, K3b, and so on.
--
"A dead religion is like a dead cat -- the stiffer and
more rotten it is, the better it is as a missile weapon."
- H.G. Wells
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
08 Jan 2006 11:01:34 AM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:22:57 -0600, wbarwell <wbarwell@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
I'd suggest Linux.
Old usually means Window 95, 98, or 2000. For a newbie,
battling viruses, worms, and all the other problems plaguing
Windows is a problem. She will soon be unhappy.
Start with Mandriva or Suse, use KDE, start with Knode.
If that is too much for an old computer, run one of the
lightweight windows managers.
I use Knode for newsreading, Mozilla for mail, Opera
for a browser. Firefox and others work well too. Battling
Windows nasties is just almost a full time job for a
newbie, and one slip up and you are in for learning a
lot about repairing a broken Windows system.
http://www.linuxcd.org/?ref=distrowatch
Start here.
Maybe try Mandriva, it has an active newsgroup,
get a Knoppix live CD, try Kubuntu maybe. Part of the
attractivness of Linux is the fact that she can also get
a lot of free software, Open Office, K3b, and so on.
Speaking of Open Office, I realized just the other day they have it for Windows,
too. Maybe that's common knowledge, but prior to researching the issue a bit, I
thought they only made it for Linux. I have one Linux and one Windows computer,
each for different reasons & programs. Now I can work on my files on either
one. I was about to contemplate shelling out $90 or so for MS Office but then
realized I didn't have to. I've not used it _too_ dreadfully exstensively, but
even the spreadsheet program works quite well, and the power point style
presentation program... Open Office is the way to go, be you on Linux _or_ on
Windows. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
aa#88
BAAWA Knight
"The gap betwixt civility and barbarism is the width of a tooth."
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
08 Jan 2006 11:23:20 AM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:46h2s1poge159oebpa2r10esrr5ftnvoj0@4ax.com:
Speaking of Open Office, I realized just the other day they have it
for Windows, too. Maybe that's common knowledge, but prior to
researching the issue a bit, I thought they only made it for Linux. I
have one Linux and one Windows computer, each for different reasons &
programs. Now I can work on my files on either one. I was about to
contemplate shelling out $90 or so for MS Office but then realized I
didn't have to. I've not used it _too_ dreadfully exstensively, but
even the spreadsheet program works quite well, and the power point
style presentation program... Open Office is the way to go, be you on
Linux _or_ on Windows. :-)
I agree. Open Office has features MS Office lacks. It can save files as
PDFs, and it's equation editor is superior.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"The total absence of humor from the Bible is one of the most singular
things in literature."
* Alfred North Whitehead
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
07 Jan 2006 06:11:51 PM |
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Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
Thunderbird (Not Firefox!) works for email and newsgroups (same
interface, only the setup procedure for the server is different), so she
would need to learn only how to handle one program.
It's free, so no issue with money.
She can claim she "is giving it to Micro$oft" (note $ sign!!!), a
favorite past time for many people.
AFAIK it is available for all mayor OS.
It is easy to use, but you have to take my word for it, and I'm not
qualified to compare it with many other programs.
Killfile is limited to searching the sender and subject, but for a
beginner this may not matter anyway.
HTH,
j.m.
#1491
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
08 Jan 2006 10:58:08 AM |
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On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:11:51 -0500, "j.m.1491@gmx.net" <j.m.1491@gmx.net> wrote:
<snip>
AFAIK it is available for all mayor OS.
How about governor OS? :-? just curious.... muauaahahahahah... ;-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
aa#88
BAAWA Knight
"The gap betwixt civility and barbarism is the width of a tooth."
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| User: "" |
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08 Jan 2006 11:57:14 PM |
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Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
XNews. FreeAgent. Netscape 4.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Need advice for Newsreader for PC |
09 Jan 2006 12:28:30 AM |
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Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
Thanks,
--Sean C
XNews. FreeAgent. Netscape 4.
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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08 Jan 2006 04:14:09 AM |
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Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
firefox for browsing, thunderbird for email/news. There may be a
better newsreader out there, but Tbird works all right and it's free.
both available from a link at http://mozilla.org
Jim
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| User: "" |
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09 Jan 2006 04:48:31 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2006 02:14:09 -0800, "J Forbes" <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
Sean C wrote:
Hi everyone,
I have a friend who is getting a new old PC pretty soon (unsure what it
is or what OS it has on it), and she wants to be able to get on Usenet,
read the newsgroups, download music and all that. Can anyone recommend
a good Windows-based newsreader for someone who's totally computer
illiterate and needs something simple at first, but which will get the
job done. Since she's tight for money a free newsreader would be
preferable, but I'd be willing to buy Agent for her if anybody
recommends it over a free program. Also, what web browser and e-mail
programs would you recommend? I heard Firefox is supposed to be good,
and it is pretty nice on the Mac.
firefox for browsing, thunderbird for email/news. There may be a
better newsreader out there, but Tbird works all right and it's free.
both available from a link at http://mozilla.org
Jim
If you're willing to buy Agent, see if she's the type who would read
and learn from a good manual.....if so, order Agent in the
shrink-wrap. It comes with a very good book that can address needs of
a casual user as well as professionals. At least mine did when I
ordered it years ago.
If she is only aiming to be a casual user I suppose the free ones
suggested by the others are good.
Sunyata
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| User: "Sean C" |
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11 Jan 2006 06:09:02 PM |
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Thanks everyone for the advice. She's going to go with Firefox,
Thunderbird and Agent for now, and then make the switch to Linux when
she gets a little more familiar with the computer.
Sean C
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